An album of Slow’s, yes please.
Kylie Minogue
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For me, silly and fun can only really be sustained when there is some element of cleverness or wit present. These lines are ripped straight out of the book of cliches almost verbatim. That, for me, is the problem. Too often, "silly and fun" is an excuse for artists to not do anything remotely interesting with the English language.
And for those who think that I'm being harsh, I come at everybody's lyrics, including Madonna's (though Madonna is more guilty of being lazy about politics and issues in her lyrics, which in some ways is worse because the stakes are higher). I'm getting tired of the pop girl (and pop boy; they are actually worse about it) tendency in general to not dig deeper, think deeper even when they are in a mood for lightweight pop. It's possible to go for light lyrics but and put that extra time in to add in some wittiness.
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Is she only working with Biff?
I like Biff ..... but I hope she diversifies her writers and producers.
They/Them
This you?
I never said you were coming for Kylie fans, I was saying that it's odd to think that *waves around* this...is better than people stanning an artist in a thread dedicated to them. Why would you want a battle?
Needs to also be said that I don't think many people are listening to Kylie for lyrics with a cause. Her back catalogue is stacked with full-blown bangers and their perfectly crafted pop lyrics.
Exhibit A
A battle is not better but it certainly does make for more exciting reading. But I wasn't trying to start one. I just saw some comments that rubbed me the wrong way and clapped back. Interestingly enough, the thread forum didn't melt.
The fact that Kylie has songs with well crafted lyrics in her back catalogue proves my point about everybody involved with Disco's lyrics needing to try harder. Pop lyrics don't have to be basic. Pop lyrics don't have to be the lowest hanging fruit that the artist can immediately grab.
I'm not looking for lyrics with a cause at all. I'm looking for lyrics that are engaging, whatever they might be about. Yes, I prefer lyrics about less frivolous things, but I am not at all above shallow escapism if the lyrics have character.
That's a very subjective standard though. I think Kylie's lyrics have "character" that is very much her own brand of pop. And I love the "low hanging fruit" that is Disco.
I realize it's subjective. I can only speak for myself when I come for Disco's lyrics. At this point in my life, I have less and less patience for lazy pen games, especially to this magnitude, but I certainly understand why somebody would like these songs. They certainly sound good.
I think she starts every album with a Biff writing session to get her in the zone before working with newer collaborators.
Biff songs
Disco: Say Something, I love it, A second to midnight
Golden: One last kiss, Shelby 68
Kylie Christmas: Oh Santa, 100 Degrees
KylieX2008: Ruffle my feathers
X: In my arms, The one, Stars, I don't know what it is
Body Language: Loving days
Fever: Love at first sight, In your eyes, Love affair, Boy
Light years: Please stay, Light years, Under the influence of love (producer only, not songwriter)
Bsides: B.P.M., City Games, Randezvous at sunset
Unreleased: 24 hours, Attention seeker, Colour my life, Don't go away, Everything, Fall for you, Had me on hello, Love is, One to one, Sexual gold, Simple boy, Right here, right now (2007), Extra ordinary day/Tabropane
Def missing some, but if you look at it, there are A LOT of great tracks, you can def make a great album with them!
What I really like is the diversity: ballads and dance tracks!
Disco: Say Something, I love it, A second to midnight
Golden: One last kiss, Shelby 68
Kylie Christmas: Oh Santa, 100 Degrees
KylieX2008: Ruffle my feathers
X: In my arms, The one, Stars, I don't know what it is
Body Language: Loving days
Fever: Love at first sight, In your eyes, Love affair, Boy
Light years: Please stay, Light years, Under the influence of love (producer only, not songwriter)
Bsides: B.P.M., City Games, Randezvous at sunset
Unreleased: 24 hours, Attention seeker, Colour my life, Don't go away, Everything, Fall for you, Had me on hello, Love is, One to one, Sexual gold, Simple boy, Right here, right now (2007), Extra ordinary day/Tabropane
Def missing some, but if you look at it, there are A LOT of great tracks, you can def make a great album with them!
What I really like is the diversity: ballads and dance tracks!
Not to be rude, but I really think this sounds like more of a you issue than a Kylie issue. She's not trying to be witty, it's not her style.
Imagine out of all the Kylie songs you could request, you choose that one.
Can't believe this was 8 years ago now!!
I'm kinda with Raichu on this one. As much fun as Disco is, it lacks ambition in some areas, and the lyrics are certainly a big part of it.
Saying wit is not her style feels kind of disingenuous to Kylie. Her very last album before Disco managed to have lyrics that dug just a little deeper without feeling overburdened or forced. And she herself did fun and frivolous so much more creatively back with Light Years. We had frangipani trees, popstars on the moon, being useless at scrabble. Now we get her listing the days of the week.
Of course a song with trite lyrics can still be great, but some beautiful lines can easily push it to another level. So why not strive for that?
For better or worse, I think the shallowness of some of Disco’s lyrics were a conscious decision. Kylie touched upon it briefly in one of the interviews at the time.
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Oh my god, everybody really needs to move on from this discussion but also this line in this song especially. It's literally in a song called Monday Blues and about how she's looking forward to the weekend again. Not every song needs to be a literary masterpiece with her digging out a thesaurus for every word.
Exactly this!