Kylie Minogue

If Kylie's next album is in fact going to be inspired by Slow...

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Oh dear, those week days in Monday Blues ! I thought she was referencing to a SAW masterpiece !
He's my toy boy, toy boy
I'm out with my toy boy, toy boy
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday
Friday, Saturday, Sunday night
 
Not to be rude, but I really think this sounds like more of a you issue than a Kylie issue. She's not trying to be witty, it's not her style.

It's not a me issue whatsoever. "Too many cliches" has been a valid criticism of lyrics since lyrics were a thing. And it doesn't need to be witty. That's just an example. There just needs to be some kind of thought going on in the lyrics.

Also, some of her lyrics have had wit in the past.

Honestly, all I ever see is excuses about why these lyrics couldn't be good when this topic comes up in relation to Disco.
 
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For better or worse, I think the shallowness of some of Disco’s lyrics were a conscious decision. Kylie touched upon it briefly in one of the interviews at the time.

There are better ways to achieve what Kylie is describing here though than the Disco approach, which is just to plug in blatant cliches at almost every turn. And if she really wanted to use cliches, she could have at least picked more interesting ones.

Oh my god, everybody really needs to move on from this discussion but also this line in this song especially. It's literally in a song called Monday Blues and about how she's looking forward to the weekend again. Not every song needs to be a literary masterpiece with her digging out a thesaurus for every word.

It's not an either/or. There's a lot of middle ground between what Kylie is doing on Disco and digging out a thesaurus for every word.

Honestly, I think most people would agree that digging out a thesaurus is lazy songwriting. But so is leaning so heavily on cliches.

I think this is disregarding some nuance in the discussion. I am not looking for literary masterpieces, I never said so and I think my post made perfectly clear what it is I'm looking for. I simply feel my favourite popstar is lacking some creativity in her lyrics on her last album – not that she owes me anything, and it's perfectly fine that many people on here don't share this viewpoint.
So far the issue has been discussed without calling the album shit or attacking anyone. And this is a forum to discuss pop music. So I think the discussion is perfectly valid?!


And I agree with this!

The discussion is completely valid. As much as I love this forum, one of its more vexing qualities is that people are always trying to control the discussion in threads. Just ignore discussions that don't interest you!

Let's not forget Madonna has done many a sing la dee da dee, ooh la la you're a superstar, singy singy singy, New York/dork as well.

Madonna has absolutely penned some thoroughly lazy lyrics in her day. While not quite Disco levels of cliche, some of the songs on Rebel Heart are bottom of the barrel in terms of the lyrics. See: Iconic, HeartbreakCity, Hold Tight. And I have the exact same criticism of those lyrics that I do the ones on Disco. Really, songwriters should always strive to do their best and there's simply too much "this will do?" in the pop genre (where lyrics are concerned).

I don’t get why a small number of people (person) need to pop shame people who enjoy Disco.

After being somewhat disappointed with Golden I really needed something like Disco from Kylie. And the success of the album shows I’m not alone.

I don't know if you're referring to me or not, but I'd love to see the posts where people are shamed for enjoying Disco.
 
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I don’t think people disagreeing you with is trying to “control the discussion”. You’ve posted multiple times why you don’t like the lyrics and people have then said why they think you’re wrong.

I never said people disagreeing with me is controlling the discussion. I (and the poster I quoted) was specifically referring to the post that told the thread to move on from this discussion.
 
I never said people disagreeing with me is controlling the discussion. I (and the poster I quoted) was specifically referring to the post that told the thread to move on from this discussion.

People can spend the next 10 pages debating the lyrics on Disco if they want to but so far the conversation has been particularly futile so maybe moving on is the right thing to do.
 
People can spend the next 10 pages debating the lyrics on Disco if they want to but so far the conversation has been particularly futile so maybe moving on is the right thing to do.

If the thread naturally moves on from it, fine. But there are tons of not particularly fruitful conversational avenues in these threads, so I don't see a need to abandon it.

And while this conversation has not yielded incredible insights, I still think it's more interesting to discuss lyrical quality than lewks or some of the other things that come up in general pop girl threads.
 
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