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La la la la vie en rose - The Agnes Discography Rate (#27)

Discussion in 'Charts, rates etc' started by Empty Shoebox, Jul 1, 2019.

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  2. So we've had an eleven.




    We've had Veritas take its first hit.





    What's our next monumental elimination?





    A song from the soundtrack of a mediocre film?





    Insert your own argument about Flashdance here.





    And we'll sort it out when Instant Repeater 99 falls.





    But for now, we're into the sevens. Whoo!



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    Nu måste vi dra
    Average: 7.02

    High scores: 11 x 1 (@Untouchable Ace / @babes aloud), 8.7 x 1 (@berserkboi), 8.5 x 1 (@Remorque)
    Low scores: 4.25 x 1 (@CasuallyCrazed), 5 x 4 (@əʊæ/@Untitled, @abael, @Hurricane Drunk, @iheartpoptarts)

    Chart positions: #45 Sverigetopplistan, (#40 Sverigetopplistan for the original)

    Well I don't feel much like dragging, so I shall instead inform, educate and entertain (delete as appropriate).

    Nu måste vi dra was originally recorded by Ken Kiprono Ring, who is from Bro. Yes that is a town name. And it is in Stockholms län, so I am allowed to talk about it. Ken is relatively big in the hip-hop scene. Okay he's not Petter, but few people are. He has released a number of studio albums since 1999. That number is sixteen (including two with Tommy Tee, who I don't know anything about).

    His biggest hits on both the singles and album chart were in 1999, with 'Mamma' (#5) and 'Eld och djupa vatten' (#9) coming from the album Vägen Tillbaka' (#8).
    Here's Mamma for you to enjoy and cherish. It's about his mother (shocked face), who died of cancer when he was fourteen.:


    Now the story takes a possibly unexpected turn. In the summer of 1999, he performed at Stockholms vattenfestival (co-incidentally, the last ever occurrence of that festival) with a song called 'Spräng Regeringen', in which he talked about storming the royal palaces and raping Princess Madeline. As you can imagine, this did not go down well at a summer festival in a city centre, with loads of kids in attendance, so the polis decided to have a word. Of course, if he had done that today, Azalea Banks or whatever her name is would be first to jump to his defence. Or does she only defend american criminals? I digress.

    Ken was subsequently dropped by his record label and sent off into the wilderness, not re-appearing into the charts until 2007. Nu måste vi dra was taken from 2009's 'Hip Hop' album, which reached #9 on the album chart. The song talks about Ken's childhood, before he remarks that he has to leave all of it behind. I didn't find it very deep or illuminating, but that's because I translated it myself, so it's probably wrong. Anyway, here's the song for you all.


    Of course, you know that this is a Så Mycket Bättre song, so you are probably dying to know which Agnes song Ken decided to perform. Usually we talk about that when the song is revealed, but I feel like a Rebel Without a Pause, so here's 'Du'.


    Ken has released some music after Smb, but I don't have the time or the enthusiasm to research it.

    To our adoring* fans**!

    *may be inaccurate
    **may also be inaccurate

    @abael decided to comment on this elimination post instead of the song:
    'Dramatic opening, blandness afterwards.' - 5.0

    @iheartpoptarts may be about to defect to TV4. Don't do it! It's full of advertisements!:
    'I used to come across stuff from this show when I looked for PJSC entries on other countries’ iTunes charts (don’t get any ideas, there’s nothing relevant on iTunes anymore) and marvel at all the good popstars who were on it.' - 5.0

    @danmharrow is mostly complimetary:
    'Possibly the best composition of her SMB songs, but the original song isn’t as strong as some of the others.' - 8.0

    @DJHazey might also be off to watch the telly (Smb usually starts in October everyone):
    'I live for these random dinner-setting live performances like all the 70s songs in the signature girl groups rates. I'm so that guy that they constantly focus on, bobbing his head and catching feels for Agnes as he gets caught in the moment. But no, that looks like me when I'm bopping. This is pretty decent too.' - 8.0

    @londonrain hasn't quite grasped the format of the programme yet:
    'Why am I watching a song this good being performed to some randoms sitting at a dinner table?'

    And we'll finish with what seems like shade from @berserkboi?
    'Video/Audio Quality not the best but what I can make out seems very pleasant!' - 8.7



    And I don't think that we've posted it in here yet, but Expressen have listed the artists for this year's programme, including the country's favourite homophobe!

    Next up? I don't know. I haven't looked that closely at the spreadsheet.
     
  3. Wait, the next season is going to have September, Titiyo, Miss Li and Danny Saucedo? Wig.

    (Also, I see Petter is participating, which is... a thing that is happening.)
     
  4. I am not the best rate participant am I?
    I haven't yet sent the rest of my commentary and when I get this notification I think oh no did I rate the incorrect song, why are there no other high scores?

    Somehow I got a hold of the studio audio and have only rated that version, so kinda yes.

    It's obviously much better quality and I know now that I have heard all of Agnes' songs that she has some amazing songs and bangers and I support her for that.
    But this song stood out to me and spoke to club/house tastes in the best way possible.
    The production is stellar and the electro middle-8 sealed it's fate as my 11, I was slayed.
    It is so modern to me.
    In those few moments I got


    I thought that at least @WowWowWowWow would 10 the studio version.


    Now I'm rooting for 'Into The Sun'.
     
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  5. It was my second-highest score of the Agnes “Så mycket bättre” covers at 8.0. Only “En så’n karl” scored higher from me at 8.5. But I have some 9’s in the overall extras section yet to come...
     
  6. Another elimination so close to the last one!





























    Tough!

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    Tough Love (Avicii feat. Agnes and Vargas & Lagola)
    Average score: 7.09
    High score: 10 x 2 (@Txetxu, @Untouchable Ace)
    Low score: 2 x 2 (@danmharrow, @Verandi)

    Chart positions: #2 Sverigetopplistan; #9 Norway; #14 Finland

    In the words of the modern poet Willa Ford, “Fuck the men, let's drink to us!”

    Misandryjustice strikes its final blow as we say goodbye to Tim Bergling, Vincent Pontare (as a performer) and Salem al Fakir.

    Tim’s time exploring northwest India led to his sonic inspiration for this song. He re-created part of the melody from Shreya Ghoshal’s song “Banarasiya” from the soundtrack to Raanjhanaa—a song co-written by Oscar-winner A.R. Rahman:



    Jai ho!

    In his notes for “Tough Love,” Tim wrote: “This one needs to be a duet. Coolest thing would be a real couple. Or a couple that have worked together enough to be almost considered a couple!” Vincent and Salem told The Guardian that “they spoke with the Bergling family and agreed they would not seek out any new vocalists to feature… The duo re-recorded their guide vocals from the demo with Pontare and [Agnes] to keep it as close to the last Bergling-approved version as possible.”

    Aftonbladet’s Markus Larsson claimed that “Tough Love” “sounds, somewhat surprisingly, more like something Ukraine, Azerbaijan or Turkey could have sent to Eurovision ten years ago than a new song by Avicii.” I feel like he means that in a negative way, but go ahead and listen to “Shady Lady,” “Düm Tek Tek,” or “Always” and I dare you not to bop.

    Anders Nunstedt at Expressen wrote: “Some go to India to find themselves. Some people get lost on their pilgrimage… ‘Tough Love’ feels very Eurovision. The loop could just as well have been taken from a Ukrainian disco-schlager and the frisky violin could be played by Alexander Rybak… It is a bold attempt at liberation from the stagnant EDM scene, but somewhere ‘Tough Love’ gets lost in its great ambitions. The parts are not really connected… It sounds like Team Avicii is trying to serve a chicken tikka masala with pickled herring and French fries.”

    And Tor Martin Bøe from Norway’s Verdens Gang described the song as “if Alexander Rybak was to collaborate with Röyksopp on a remake of ‘Only This Moment.’” OK that’s enough Alexander Rybak for this entire rate, let alone one post.

    Were one to be interested in more behind the scenes information about “Tough Love,” one might watch the following video:



    Only one comment was more Tough than Love, and it came from @danmharrow:
    “Not my thing, but RIP.” - 2.0

    A few comments were more Love than Tough—and they both came from the Southern Hemisphere. @berserkboi was verbose and effusive in his praise:
    “Interesting blend.” - 9.3

    Co-highest scorer @Untouchable Ace was Team Y Chromosome:
    “The boys are incredible.” - 10

    The rest of the comments landed somewhere in between.

    Based on this review, we may need to Wake @abael Up when it’s all over.
    “It is pretty well produced (unsurprisingly) but it’s still boring and Agnes definitely takes a backseat here.” - 6.0

    Hey Brother turned into Oh Brother for @DJHazey:
    “I was low-key hoping this would be an amazing bop and it’d be the first time I added an Avicii song to my Spotify playlists, but sadly that didn’t happen. It’s just okay.” - 6.0

    And we close with @tylerc904, who wears his Heart Upon his Sleeve.
    “This is like almost horrible and almost amazing I am so torn.” - 6.5



    PS: Since I won’t have any other chance to reference this for the rest of the rate, let me remind everyone that Avicii was kind enough to collaborate on the official anthem for Eurovision 2013 with two up-and-coming performers named Björn Ulvaeus and Benny Andersson:


     
  7. I just have a 4 left and then all my scores left are positive. Talent!
     
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  8. After I wrote that comment I realized I did have a couple of songs credited to Avicii in my Spotify somewhere, oops.
     
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  9. This is peak PJ
     
  10. Danny covering September and vice versa is gonna make my life.

    Willa Ford!!!
     
  11. @Empty Shoebox, deliver eliminations on a consistent schedule challenge.




    Do that challenge.





    Or don't.





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    Forever Yours
    Average: 7.22

    High scores: 9.6 x 2 (@Untouchable Ace / @babes aloud, @berserkboi), 9 x 1 (@əʊæ / Untitled)
    Low scores: 4 x 2 (@Empty Shoebox, @Txetxu)

    Chart positions: N/A

    With misandry finally victorious, it's now up to team 'Where Are The Bops?' to take control. Before we start, listen to the first two seconds again.

    Which song by A Flock of Seagulls is that? Anyone know? I can't place it. Or am I just going mad? (rhetorical question. I went mad some time ago)

    So this song is the usual album track fodder. It was originally released by German group No Angels, but I can't find their version on YouTube. Let's turn to my usual tactic for this - songs you may know by the same writing team (apart from the other songs in this rate).





    There's more, but I'll save them for another of Wikström and Thomander's songs.

    Can any of you help me out by throwing some shade?

    @tylerc904 is familiar with the original. Is it as bad as 'I Had A Feeling', where the songs are as close to being identical as possible?
    'I may prefer No Angels on this one (but hey, they later snatched two songs from the next Agnes album so its tit 4 tat).' - 8.0

    @danmharrow may also be familiar with whichever Flock of Seagulls song I was thinking of:
    'Oh this is good dated… and sounds very familiar, why?' - 7.0

    @berserkboi is getting ideas:
    'Would be a PJ00s winner easily, though I may not vote for it that round, securing its chance for top spot with my track record! Dddd' - 9.6
    Good luck getting this through veto.

    @DJHazey is a satisfied customer:
    'Kind of trippy and intriguing.' - 8.0

    @abael summarises every song by this writing pair (in my opinion)
    'Not bad, but repetitive to the point the track feels longer than it is.' - 6.0

    And I'm not sure if @iheartpoptarts is pleased or not?
    'This sounds like it comes from much earlier in the 00s, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing. In 2005, I know I needed that.' - 7.0



    Next up, a song that received two fives. Next up for me, a song that received one 5.5.
     
    Last edited: Sep 8, 2019
  12. How bizarre to see a friend of mine casually mentioned like this.
     
  13. Sugar Rush is such an A*Teens favorite.
     
  14. We are almost at the halfway point of the rate reveal!


































    Hey - hey! *beats*

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    Don’t Pull Your Love Out
    Average score: 7.28
    High score: 10 x 1 (@iheartpoptarts)
    Low score: 5 x 2 (@CasuallyCrazed, @danmharrow)

    Agnes found promoting safer sex practices! (Planned Parenthood states that the withdrawal method is better than doing nothing at all, but still is less effective than other forms of birth control. But I digress!)

    A random appearance on the songwriter front from Kara DioGuardi, who has written for, well you name it. Rachel Stevens, The Simpsons (Jessica & Ashlee), Enrique Iglesias, Celine Dion, Hilary Duff, Anastacia, Lindsay Lohan, Ryan Cabrera, Raven-Symoné, Peter Andre, Jesse McCartney, hmm this took a downhill turn.

    Kara was also a judge on American Idol for two series. You may remember her “feud” with Katy Perry:



    In lieu of any actual trivia about the song, please enjoy this routine performed to “Don’t Pull Your Love Out”:



    Oh you did, did you @abael?
    “I have to say with a title like this, I was hoping Agnes would go harder than she did.” - 7.0

    @danmharrow alludes to the hanky-panky of it all:
    “Ooh naughty. Didn’t have time for this back then, and the production doesn’t quite mesh with the song. But a bonus point for the title.” - 5.0

    @berserkboi also pays homage to the title:
    “I… had a @KamikazeHeart type dirty thought at first seeing that title. The song is really bop-tastic!” - 9.2

    And @tylerc904 weighs in on those magic five words as well:
    “The unintentionally naughty song title is deceptive because it’s just a cute little love song.” - 8.5

    Thankfully we had some SFW commentary from @DJHazey:
    “Production is very much of that time period but it actually works out as sounding like a little changeup here. Unfortunately, the song overall is again a tad towards the bland side.” - 7.0

    And @iheartpoptarts stands alone as the high scorer on this song:
    “One of my fave choruses of the rate.” - 10

     
  15. The forum’s collective reaction to Don’t Pull Your Love Out:

     
  16. “Is that thing loaded?”
     
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  17. You're both terrible sksksk
     
  18. It's Sunday night and Everybody Knows what that means!






    That's right!!!!!!







    Nothing.







    You definitely should have expected that one.







    Maybe you should...
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    Open Up Your Eyes
    Average: 7.32

    High scores: 10 x 1 (@Untouchable Ace / @babes aloud), 9.1 x 1 (@berserkboi), 9 x 2 (@Empty Shoebox, @Ana Raquel)
    Low scores: 5 x 1 (@londonrain), 5.5 x 1 (@Lost Boy)

    Chart positions: N/A

    So we stay with Dance Love Pop for at least One More Night (Dinah Nah, 2017) and decide to drop track eight. On the eighth. Coincidence? Yes. Otherwise the position would be a multiple of eight and so would the average.

    For some reason, this song in not present on the UK album, but 'If I Could Build My Whole World Around You' is. Is this why the british voted for the brexit? Well, no, not in any way shape or form, but never mind.

    This song talks of a scenario that we see very often from men, where the person they like has just broken up, and while comforting them, they try to move in. This is traditionally frowned upon as the person who has just been through the breakup is usually emotionally compromised and some can see it as predatory behaviour. I'm not sure I'd go that far, but I'd certainly rate it a 'Hmm' on the scale of problematic lyrics. Although I guess on the plus side it does seem that she is accepting and does not want to force things, and is prepared to remove herself from the other person's life so I guess that makes it a little better?

    Well, as you can probably tell, I quite like this song, despite not liking the lyrics, but then again, I like Yes or Yes so at least I'm on brand. Not sure what it is that I specifically like about this song, but as I said earlier in the thread, I was just walking down the street one day when it came up in shuffle on my digital music player (yes, go on make your '2004 called' 'jokes'. I'll wait. I can remember pre decimal currency so I genuinely do not care) and it just 'clicked'. Listening to it now outside of that environment I can only really pick out the bass, but maybe that's because I used to play bass.

    So enough incoherent rambling, it's time for the comments section.

    @danmharrow says:
    'It’s Look At Me Now but less good. Needs more of a kick' - 6.0
    And it seems the rest of you agreed, as Look At Me Now will be safe until at least the next elimination.

    @DJHazey fails in a quest:
    'Don't want to be that guy but the songs are now beginning to sound a it samey, certainly non memorable compared to the fan favorites on the album.' - 6.0

    @iheartpoptarts seems relatively happy on the other hand:
    'This might be the rare song where the verses are actually superior to the chorus.' - 8.0
    Well, I'm sure that you want to show us what you're feeling inside.

    @berserkboi closes us off (I hope that's not a euphemism)
    I could only find a super muffled sound quality of this online but the quality comes through - 9.1



    Next up, @WowWowWowWow eliminates a song, then, the day after, I eliminate a song. Astounding.
     
  19. I'm doing myself in here, but this has gone pretty well for me so far, with one 8 being the biggest loss. (Tough luck, I Believe in You.)
     
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