Lady GaGa - The Monster Ball Tour
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Why is she so exhausted.
I'm gonna make a controversial statement here and say her performances aren't exactly high octane. Any choreography she does is extremely basic and elementary. Her stage movement isn't overly high octane. And she's very young.
I've never thought she was much of a performer. Great musician, great visual pop star.. shit performer. Beyonce can do tours with live vocals and extremely high octane stage movement. When Britney was her age she was doing INSANE choreography for 1.5 hours straight for far more dates (albeit not with her mic on but she still sings.. soundboards prove that).
I think she should stick to clubs and smaller venues. Her performances are more stricking that way anyway.
I'm gonna make a controversial statement here and say her performances aren't exactly high octane. Any choreography she does is extremely basic and elementary. Her stage movement isn't overly high octane. And she's very young.
I've never thought she was much of a performer. Great musician, great visual pop star.. shit performer. Beyonce can do tours with live vocals and extremely high octane stage movement. When Britney was her age she was doing INSANE choreography for 1.5 hours straight for far more dates (albeit not with her mic on but she still sings.. soundboards prove that).
I think she should stick to clubs and smaller venues. Her performances are more stricking that way anyway.
I think people are claiming she's exhausted because of her schedule - not because of the 'intensity' of the show itself. The Monster Ball dates are scheduled quite close together, in comparison to hair flipping Britney, for example. She's doing 5 shows a week, and writing a new album, and tv shows, and filming music videos like Telephone.
Apparently she's touched down in Australia - Although I have and still am quite critical of your yellow-haired goddess, I am off to the Brisbane Concert so i will be able report objectively on her fatigue levels (um no I won't cause I will be drunk).
Not sure why the UK concerts are priced so steeply - we paid $90 AU which is about 50 pound for standing section at the front.?
Not sure why the UK concerts are priced so steeply - we paid $90 AU which is about 50 pound for standing section at the front.?
Sorry, I am going here, but..
In the first two years of Britney's career she did TWO far more high octane arena tours, each with more dates, promoted far more than GaGa does now (fact, surely? let's not be naive), AND was still a tutored student.
Beyonces regime now is just as punishing, if not moreso, than GaGa's - and is 10x more octane of a performer than GaGa.
To be honest, putting on some WEIGHT would be a good place to start. She can't be a heavily weight right now for the schedule she has.
In the first two years of Britney's career she did TWO far more high octane arena tours, each with more dates, promoted far more than GaGa does now (fact, surely? let's not be naive), AND was still a tutored student.
Beyonces regime now is just as punishing, if not moreso, than GaGa's - and is 10x more octane of a performer than GaGa.
To be honest, putting on some WEIGHT would be a good place to start. She can't be a heavily weight right now for the schedule she has.
LewJB said:
What does her weight have to do with her schedule? That's an idiotic comment.
Daneeeboy said:
Amen to bold... Haha.
Daneeeboy said:
Indeed, promotional techniques wise, GaGa has the internet and youtube. She nor anyone don't have to work nearly as hard to reach a wider audience. Artistic Input - fair enough, but I doubt GaGa couldn't stand up because she was stressing about the concept of Alejandro (oh, video concepts are something Britney's always had input in anyway). Physical exhaustion isn't a consequence of artistic input. For instance, I get far more tired at the Gym than what I do writing an essay. I'm not going to stand up and collapse after writing 5000 words.
Britney was promoted on the 'world stage' to much greater effect in 1999 (when people still watched MTV), than Gaga was in 2009. The pop landscape is very different today and the multitude of 'channels' that the Internet has brought us makes it infinitely more difficult to build momentum behind a new act. Which is why Gaga was jetting all over the world performing on boxes in nightclubs and on Paul O'flippin'Grady.
I think it's naive to argue that the Internet made Gaga's promotion easier, although she did use it to great effect. Britney landed as a part of the 'mainstream' and was ruthlessly marketed on a worldwide scale - Gaga was introduced to territories on a more staggered basis.
I think it's naive to argue that the Internet made Gaga's promotion easier, although she did use it to great effect. Britney landed as a part of the 'mainstream' and was ruthlessly marketed on a worldwide scale - Gaga was introduced to territories on a more staggered basis.
I don't even know what we're arguing about anymore.
I think my point was, GaGa doesn't work THAT hard to make THAT shit of a performance. She needs to get her shit together, it doesn't look healthy. Even after Madonna's little faint on S&S (a 50 year old pop star veteran on the biggest tour.. ever) she got her shit together and kept going.
I think my point was, GaGa doesn't work THAT hard to make THAT shit of a performance. She needs to get her shit together, it doesn't look healthy. Even after Madonna's little faint on S&S (a 50 year old pop star veteran on the biggest tour.. ever) she got her shit together and kept going.
It's not as if GaGa has canceled all of the remaining shows, after fainting and going into a coma for 3 days! The venue's air-con was broken, people were fainting left and right- it was a one-off thing, she was at 100% the next day at her next show, hell, she was 100% later that same night after she'd left the venue. I'd rather her have gone through the entire show, and have heat exhaustion for the final song than cancel the entire show.
I'm not even going to bother arguing about who worked harder, it's different times, you may-as-well compare Lady GaGa's promo to Madonna's promo, the times were completely different, they both had their pros and cons.
I'm not even going to bother arguing about who worked harder, it's different times, you may-as-well compare Lady GaGa's promo to Madonna's promo, the times were completely different, they both had their pros and cons.
NA 2nd-leg dates just posted.
http://www.ladygaga.com/news/default.aspx?nid=25001
But looking at that schedule she's easily going to add more dates.
http://www.ladygaga.com/news/default.aspx?nid=25001
But looking at that schedule she's easily going to add more dates.
J
justabluefox
I didn't get to see her when she was in LA last time so I am very excited for this. I'm sure she'll add more LA dates, hopefully! I would love it if she did. I feel kind of bad because I want her to slow it down, especially if she has an album out by the end of 2010 (didn't she say that somewhere?) but if she's putting on a concert near me I want to see it.
LewJB said:
High octane? I saw the Oops!... I Did It Again tour, and the choreography was just as intense as songs on Gaga's tour such as Poker Face or Just Dance or Telephone; although the Circus tour relied fully on props, the Oops! tour still had songs such as Born To Make You Happy, mimed from the bedroom scene, What You See (Is What You Get), with her doing simple vogue movements against a moving stripper's pole, Crazy, with her wiggling about and going side to side of the stage, Lucky, mimed whilst she stood and moved her hands behind a microphone stand, Sometimes, sometimes sung live whilst she stood and jiggled a bit and Don't Let Me Be The Last To Know, usually sung live, but with no movement. It was by no means as intense as she was in 2001/2002, and her early TV performances have very little choregraphy, and were often the same for each and every performance of a particular single.
Unlike Beyonce and Britney, Gaga has never given the same TV performance twice - even the set she performed for Glastonbury, V Festival, T In The Park, Isle Of MTV, etc. last year was slightly different on every occasion. She writes, unlike the both of them, comes up with concepts, outfits, shoots 10minute videos, uses the same amount of choreography as they do, puts her all into it and performs live. In her first 18 months, Gaga has done nearly 100 TV performances across the world, I think that's actually probably 1/3 more than Britney did - particularly considering she cancelled performances and appearances in the UK and Europe within weeks of her launch here, due to a knee injury.