I mean, it’s hyperbolic. Especially coming from someone like Zane, the closest competition to Lady-I-Saw-Jesus-While-Chainsmoking.
I don’t know, it’s been pretty clear the media was harsh while reviewing ARTPOP and talking about everything but the music most of the time, and when doing so, they were busy creating some really awkward angle because it was coming from Born This Way’s legacy, and recent years (and, of course, “poptimism”) are looking back and realizing they just were too harsh for nothing, and then “too ahead of time!!” plays along so they don’t feel guilty for being shitty while doing their job in 2013. It’s absolutely the same music.
Her whole vision for the project was tainted and she never got to show the full potential she probably wanted with ARTPOP. Her plans were beyond the album, and while her ambition was probably her biggest enemy, she was the one babbling about making a Visual Album, put the album in an App and all that stuff that never materialized because the train went off the rails. All that was about “bringing art into pop” beyond the music. You can make a point that, then, she should have been more careful and crafted something with a “stronger base/concept” that would stand on its feet without any other backing (visuals/performances/any gimmick) but… that was part of the fun. To have the full “era experience” to fulfill it. I still love most of these songs, but I can only listen to Venus and dream about a real-budget music video she would serve and probably perform it everywhere until it was retconned as a hit while peaking at #60 on Hot100
Paul probably gets frustrated for being close and seeing everything happening in real time, also alluding he went through hard times back then. He doesn’t need to “cling to” ARTPOP for relevancy while still attached to Born This Way and A Star Is Born. All these songs exists because of his hands too.
But there’s also a large part of this fanbase which occasionally didn’t drop her after 2011 but also liked her music before “She can Sing!!” 2015-era that… enjoy and want more from that content from 2012-2014. So let them live inside that bubble and ~Manifest~
The whole “she was singing over recycled beats” argument like she wasn’t doing so from the moment she first started is a scream personally. From Joanne and beyond we know she’s taking full songs and writing few lines ddd. Nothing wrong with any of it, and it’s not her fault if she cannot make the music NOT bop because she really did what she had to do with these rejects.