Lady Gaga

[mindtrappa]

Wasn't she recording Joanne until summer 2016 though? I feel like Chromatica was the exception because she had A Star Is Born's promo cycle and its era lasted longer than everyone expected.

But I think it's mostly me desperately thinking (hoping) she'll try to put an album out before JFAD's premiere dd.

Yeah, but she started writing for it in 2014, technically. She was already talking about what she wanted to do in interviews when Cheek to Cheek was released. And then the sessions with RedOne were in early 2015, so that's about a year and a half of work. The original version of Joanne was finished pretty quickly after she started working with Mark Ronson. They started at the very end of 2015 and already played the songs to the label by April 2016. They spent the next several months after that reworking it.

I honestly think she'll be in Joker mode until after the film is released and the press run/awards season is completed. She might start working on stuff during that, but I don't see us getting anything until after, unless Chromatica sets the tone for her albums from now on and she just chucks it out with very minimal promo. Her plate is always full these days between acting and entrepreneurial projects, so we should probably reset our expectations when it comes to what releasing music looks like for her now.

 

[DinahLee]

She’s too much of a ~perfectionist to have a song ready on the spot and dropping it right away without tweaking it. I remember she used to tweet a lot about “wanting to put music out” during pre-ARTPOP and stuff like the music-puzzles, but they were minor things. The Cure is probably the only exception of having something “right off the studio”.

I also don’t think it will be necessarily a wait until late 2023 for her to “officially start”, but I’d rather if she took her time now.

 

[mindtrappa]

For sure, "The Cure" is the only time I can remember her dropping something so quickly after it was finished. It was done like a week or two prior to its debut.

Thankfully I listen to more than just Gaga, so I'm not like desperate and craving anything from her. There's a lot of amazing material being released right now by people who are still hungry. If she's actually feeling inspired and passionate enough to step into the studio, then great. I'll be there when she's ready. Until then...

 

[Hyrulian]

The state of her career is definitely disheartening (and even more depressing when it seems like both her and Britney have quasi-retired from being pop stars at the same time), but seeing some people in here being revisionists and claiming that the Chromatica Ball was anything but an incredible show is ridiculous. It was quite possibly her sleekest and most modern tour and she was absolutely electric as a performer. One of my favorite tours ever.

 

[RJF]

Do y'all ever get tired of sub posting in the Gaga thread or

 

[Hyrulian]

Do y'all ever get tired of sub posting in the Gaga thread or

I was being courteous, but sure, let’s unpack how resentful you are towards her. She’s not the pop star she was when you or the rest of us fell in love with her. It’s a hard pill to swallow. But you’re lying / rewriting history at this point and it’s weird. Your own personal opinion about Chromatica is valid but it’s been three years — move on. You coming in here to shit on an objectively great tour (a tour that actually felt like Gaga at her best as a pop star) just because of your personal vendetta against her is strange.

 

[RJF]

But you’re lying / rewriting history at this point and it’s weird. Your own personal opinion about Chromatica is valid but it’s been three years — move on. You coming in here to shit on an objectively great tour (a tour that actually felt like Gaga at her best as a pop star) just because of your personal vendetta against her is strange.

I'm lying? Rewriting history about what? Let's really have a look at my post and examine what I said. I said it seemed antiquated and stale; Gaga is out here quite literally using arrangements she's been using since the beginning of her career, with incredibly nostalgic imagery and costuming, if you want me to be kinder. I said it was grim in comparison to the other stadium pop shows currently... and Gaga literally backed that up by discussing how it was about trauma and grief, with all the accompanying stuff that you need to portray that. And then my third point was... her setlist is tired as shit, which is fact. So please point out where I'm lying in this post, because it looks like I'm just not saying something you agree with, which is not the same thing. The rest of my post was merely conjecture about her headspace and her future, which couldn't be clearer as my own opinion and if the two pages after my post are to be believed, an opinion that appears to be shared by a lot of people in this thread. Move on? That post was the first time I've ever posted my thoughts on the tour!

If you wanna talk resentment we can talk about how it's been pages since my last post with several people posting similar thoughts to my own, but once again it's me that's having to take the brunt of people's hurt feelings over... me posting what everyone else is posting??? Me not being jazzed about the Sephora/Oscar chaser era????? People just continuing to have an axe to grind with me????????? Delete what doesn't apply!

 

[Hyrulian]

I'm lying? Rewriting history about what? Let's really have a look at my post and examine what I said. I said it seemed antiquated and stale; Gaga is out here quite literally using arrangements she's been using since the beginning of her career, with incredibly nostalgic imagery and costuming, if you want me to be kinder. I said it was grim in comparison to the other stadium pop shows currently... and Gaga literally backed that up by discussing how it was about trauma and grief, with all the accompanying stuff that you need to portray that. And then my third point was... her setlist is tired as shit, which is fact. So please point out where I'm lying in this post, because it looks like I'm just not saying something you agree with, which is not the same thing. The rest of my post was merely conjecture about her headspace and her future, which couldn't be clearer as my own opinion and if the two pages after my post are to be believed, an opinion that appears to be shared by a lot of people in this thread. Move on? That post was the first time I've ever posted my thoughts on the tour!

If you wanna talk resentment we can talk about how it's been pages since my last post with several people posting similar thoughts to my own, but once again it's me that's having to take the brunt of people's hurt feelings over... me posting what everyone else is posting??? Me not being jazzed about the Sephora/Oscar chaser era????? People just continuing to have an axe to grind with me????????? Delete what doesn't apply!

I simply opened the thread and your post was the first unread I saw. You literally had a whole paragraph about how a year old show was “antiquated” now that her peers are….putting on shows a year later that? Like make it make sense! You had a bad opinion and people responded to it, it’s really not that deep.

 

[stellar collision]

The Chromatica Ball is easily her best tour. It recalls past tour imagery without felling like a cheap retread. As previously stated, it was slick and modern. The brutalist staging, ‘artsy’ backdrop/interlude videos, and immaculate costuming are some of her most inspired visuals. The setlist actually worked very well with the loose concept/storyline of the show. My only critique is that older songs could’ve desperately used remixing, but I’m willing to look past that since everything else was perfection.

 

[Raichu]

Completely off topic but I feel so stupid - I JUST realized the weird machinery sound in the intro and each pre-chorus in “Babylon” is a trumpeting elephant, presumably since Babylon is (inaccuratey) associated with elephants (because of DW Griffith, of racist KKK propoganda “cinema clasic” trash Birth of a Nation fame, insisting on giant elephant sculptures in a vignette about Babylon in his film Intolerance.

Ever since that one writer described “wild animal sounds” in the Babylon demo, (which is notably loon-free), I always was like “girl where”.

Not strictly related but Babylon exemplifies one of my biggest problems with Chromatica. It's a bop why is it so compact? The whole album feels so reigned in and limited in scope for no good reason. Why even have a concept like Chromatica if most of the artistic choices seem aimed at making the album extra regular?

 

[RJF]

I simply opened the thread and your post was the first unread I saw. You literally had a whole paragraph about how a year old show was “antiquated” now that her peers are….putting on shows a year later that? Like make it make sense! You had a bad opinion and people responded to it, it’s really not that deep.

I think it was literally a sentence, but go off. Not you saying it isn’t that deep when you were psychoanalysing my relationship with a popstar because… you couldn’t just have a discussion about my opinion. Sorry for talking about a popstar thing a popstar did a year ago in the popstar’s thread! I’m so late!

I’ll let everyone get back to lamenting the make up Instagram posts and Gaga’s questionable relationship with her music career, which is apparently fine when everyone else does it and the symptoms of a psychopath when I do it.

 

[Raichu]

The defensiveness and reactiveness of fans when someone makes a negative comment about things they like (and sometimes just about anything a beloved pop star does) is getting so out of control on this forum. I don't remember it being so over the top even a year ago. I mean, I even got a comment in the Madonna thread saying that I should just make one critical comment and leave. Like, what? Are these threads now safe spaces? Is there some kind of rule where you get unlimited positive comments but a limit on negative ones? Can't we just act like adults and discuss our differing opinions without all the weird gatekeeping?

There's absolutely nothing wrong with thinking a tour of all things is just not that great in comparison to shows put on by other pop stars and there's nothing wrong with thinking that a tour/song/album that most fans like is actually not that good. This whole forum needs to get a fucking grip. It's getting straight up weird.

 

[Raichu]

Also, the use of the word revisionism to describe an opinion one doesn't agree with really needs to die a painful death. Let's please stop mangling the English language.

 

[Vasilios]

Padam

 

[Applause]

I love these fan-made videos from the tour. Her aversion to releasing tour footage... she's not seeing the pearly gates.

 

[RMK]

I could see them trying to repeat a similar formula to Chromatica by having an album ready post-award season - there was an insane amount of hype built up and she didn’t have to do much.

In the mean time, a stand alone single or collaboration early next year would make sense - especially if Vegas is back in the picture.

 

[Square]

Now why the hell is she advertising prescription medication on her Instagram grid

Sis

 

[mindtrappa]

Ff she's really taking the piss now. Not me foolishly thinking she was about to finally announce the concert film when I saw the thumbnail.

 

[Sam]

The way I got the notification “@ladygaga posted” and saw the thumbnail on my phone and SCRAMBLED to load it expecting a Chromatica Ball announcement, I hate her

 

[Tracy Jacks]

Not Nurtec®️ ODT getting the “ever since I was a little girl, I dreamed of singing jazz with Tony Bennett” treatment… at least it’s written in her voice!