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Madonna: The Discography Rate - COMPLETE

Discussion in 'Charts, rates etc' started by RJF, Apr 19, 2020.

  1. RJF


    Yeah, so this is definitely what I've done! It changes the track's standing a bit; I'll update everyone on said changes after the last elimination of the day, which is coming momentarily.
  2. We also hesitated. And had a fuzzy dream.

    I visited New York for the first time last year, and this song was all I could think about. Which is especially annoying, because it is terrible.
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  3. Yeah, "I Love New York" being the first standard "Confessions on a Dance Floor" track to leave is perfectly understandable and acceptable. I'm pretty sure it's my least favourite song from that album, too.
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  4. I'm not a huge fan of Confessions overall, truth be told. If I was ranking her albums, everything from True Blue to Music inclusive and Hard Candy would be ahead of it, maybe American Life too (which I've grown to appreciate more over the years)
  5. RJF




    SCORE: 6.694

    2015 PLACEMENT: DOWN 21 - 139 of 210 (6.568)
    HIGHEST SCORE: 10 x 3 (@nanafan @Bleu Noir @Digital Ghost)
    LOWEST SCORE: 2.5 x 1 (@Ramalama)
    MY SCORE: 5/10

    So I think this has maybe flown under the radar a little in terms of chat in the thread, but I'm afraid its time in the spotlight is done. It acted as the sole bit of new material from You Can Dance, an EP consisting of extended mixes and remixes from Madonna's first three albums. I like it, but I also think that it suffers from the same issues I have with the Who's That Girl songs where it just felt like her sound was starting to feel a little played out by that point, so the change up in sound on the next album isn't that much of a surprise. It just doesn't stand up against the rest of her output of the time, which of course was that singles run from True Blue. Curtis Hudson, the original writer of the track, had this to say of it in 2012:

    “During the time right after Holiday, when we’d go to her place and write, I presented Spotlight. I gave her a complete song, Spotlight. I had actually written it in case Warner Bros. asked her for another Holiday. She said she loved it and felt spiritual about it. But she didn’t use it or contact me again about it. It sort of popped up out of nowhere when she was getting ready to do You Can Dance. Her lawyer contacted our manager and said we needed to talk. We went over and met with him. She and Stephen Bray had already done the song; but I hadn’t even heard the version they had done.They took the demo I had given her and worked it into a different song. They gave me credit since I had the original song copyrighted. I would’ve collaborated and made changes. But I was told, ‘Well, she’s too busy. She’s overseas doing a movie.’ I was okay with it, though, because they gave me credit. But the original song had a certain magic, and the changes took that essence away. The original Spotlight was another Holiday—the rhythm, the basic groove. I think they were trying to get away from that sound. Sometimes artists don’t want their sound to be identified with specific writers.”

    I'll admit: I don't really hear the similarities in the finished version, so I'm curious to know what the original version sounded like. The difference between the two is compounded by the fact that "Holiday" is right after "Spotlight" on the You Can Dance tracklisting and... the former eats the latter up in terms of bopping potential, to be honest.

    Despite it being brand new Madonna material, the song was only officially released as a single in Japan, where it kinda smashed and peaked at No.3 on the Oricon International Singles Chart. It was most likely down to the fact that Mitsubishi had secured Madonna for a run of commercials that aired around the same time, with "Spotlight" featuring in the last run. I've included a bunch of the commercials below for anyone looking for a bit of capitalist nostalgia from when it was fairly common for artists to do these sort of things. She did loads of them! Queen of selling out!

    Last edited: Jul 10, 2020
  6. matthew.

    matthew. Staff Member

    Quite possibly her most unremarkable 80s song.
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  7. RJF


    So, my input error means that "Supernatural" actually fell at No.165, pushing everything above that up one spot, and obviously broke its tie with "I Love New York". Apologies, but I'm only human. I've put the tracks effected in bold.

    In terms of the weekend's eliminations, I'm indisposed for a lot of tomorrow so if I don't do tomorrow's elimination, I'll do two on Sunday. BYE!

    160. Spotlight - 6.694
    161. I Love New York - 6.652
    162. Messiah - 6.639
    163. Love Song - 6.621
    163. I'd Rather Be Your Lover - 6.621
    165. Supernatural - 6.615

    166. Candy Shop - 6.588
    167. Wash All Over Me - 6.561
    168. HeartBreakCity - 6.558
    169. Bitch I'm Loca (Feat. Maluma) - 6.548
    170. Your Honesty - 6.524
    171. Beautiful Scars - 6.461
    172. Something To Remember - 6.458
    173. Love Don't Live Here Anymore - 6.448
    174. Over And Over - 6.433
    175. Another Suitcase In Another Hall - 6.409
    176. Stay - 6.367
    177. Don't Stop - 6.339
    178. Girl Gone Wild - 6.324
    179. I Know It - 6.267
    180. Act Of Contrition - 6.245
    181. Fighting Spirit - 6.227
    182. I Don't Give A (Feat. Nicki Minaj) - 6.203
    183. It's So Cool - 6.191
    184. Illuminati - 6.167
    185. Funana - 6.161
    186. Dance 2Night - 6.152
    187. Borrowed Time - 6.118
    187. History - 6.118
    189. Sooner Or Later - 6.109
    189. One More Chance - 6.109
    191. Back That Up To The Beat - 6.076
    192. Let Down Your Guard - 6.036
    193. Killers Who Are Partying - 6.015
    194. I'm A Sinner - 6.012
    195. I Fucked Up - 5.964
    196 - Some Girls - 5.933
    197. He's A Man - 5.924
    198. Give Me All Your Luvin' (Feat. Nicki Minaj & M.I.A.) - 5.921
    199. Buenos Aires - 5.894
    200. Super Pop - 5.848
    201. Revolver (Feat. Lil Wayne) - 5.827
    202. Can't Stop - 5.776
    203. Ain't No Big Deal - 5.736
    204. Turn Up The Radio - 5.727
    205. Best Friend - 5.721
    206. Graffiti Heart - 5.697
    207. Hanky Panky - 5.691
    208. Love Makes The World Go Round - 5.679
    209. Back In Business - 5.67
    210. Pretender - 5.661
    211. Lament - 5.615
    212. Cyber-Raga - 5.603
    213. Incredible - 5.545
    214. Jimmy Jimmy - 5.521
    215. Now I'm Following You - 5.497
    216. Ring My Bell - 5.424
    217. S.E.X. - 5.373
    218. Spanish Lesson - 4.997
    219. Shoo-Bee-Doo - 4.948
    220. More - 4.852
    221. What Can You Lose - 4.436
    222. Superstar - 4.391
    223. Auto-Tune Baby - 4.121
    224. Cry Baby - 3.367
    225. I'm Going Bananas - 3.327
    226. B-Day Song (Feat. M.I.A.) - 3.000
    227. Hey You - 2.976

  8. I remember being a little gayling in 1987 and seeing an ad for the not-released-yet You Can Dance album and running to my record store and showing the clerk the ad and being disappointed that the album was not going to be released for another few weeks.
  9. I LOVE those ads, never saw most of them before. I wonder how much she got paid. Reminds me of Bill Murray in Lost In Translation.
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  10. RJF


    Considering they stretch from 1985 to 1988... a lot.
  11. "Spotlight" is one of Madonna's most inessential songs, and I would easily clump it together with "Ain't No Big Deal" and "Can't Stop" in terms of being so unremarkable and sounding like a re-tread of her more popular songs from the 80's.
    Therefore, I'm a bit surprised it managed to go this far and surpass many superior songs. It is a very nice song, though.
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  12. She was the 80s. Truly unmatched.
  13. Spotlight is cute and very boppable, but I imagine it’s something she forgot about the second she finished recording it.
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  14. I truly, truly love both that song and "Supernatural." I don't know what this says about me!
  15. Not the "Oracion International Singles Chart". Like A Prayer's impact.
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  16. The production does some serious heavy lifting on I Love New York, but whew if that explosion near the end doesn't even slightly adjust your wig you're dead inside. The demo is fascinating, too - there's something very 60's about it and I'm In Love With Love that could have led to at least a cute rocky side project.

    Spotlight is inessential, but I think it speaks to her absolute chokehold on pop music in the 80s that even the less interesting songs from that time still bop a tad.
  17. Supernatural, Spotlight, and I Love New York are all bops. Not a good cull.
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  18. I've been using Supernatural so much this week. My 7.5 is accurate but I kind of wish I'd given this Theremin bop a 10 dd

    Judging by your avi, you probably twerk to Frosti.
  19. Oh no, I love Spotlight. One of my favourite early Madonna tracks. I really didn’t think it would go yet
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  20. Can we bring back thread tags only for Bjork's threads please? I think about "do-si-do'ing to cvalda" every third day of my life.
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