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Madonna: The Discography Rate - COMPLETE

Discussion in 'Charts, rates etc' started by RJF, Apr 19, 2020.

  1. Voices should have fucking left at about #178, but I know I can't trust y'alls questionable taste, so here we are.

    Does it have something to do with some of these orchestral versions being better than the ones we got, hun? xoxo
     
  2. RJF

    RJF

    I've forgotten that song the moment I eliminated it. What are we talking about?
     
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  3. I’ve always enjoyed Voices, but this, WHY. Similar to the Rebel Heart title track - Is it intentional that my headphones sound broken?
     
  4. Let's not kill our afternoon buzz and leave it be.

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  5. Voices is my least favorite track on Hard Candy. Here I was calling for Candy Shop and Voices a lower score.

    Also, I'm glad I'm not the only one that doesn't care for Body Shop. Definitely should've been out before Best Night.
     
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  6. We made dad mad.
     
  7. Because I'm a fool for not mentioning them (although maybe I cursed these songs ddd FUCK), let me pray for Inside Out (aka one of her best songs post 2000 aka one of my Rebel Heart 10s) and Body Shop (aka at worst an 8 aka a beautiful, charming song that sounds like it was produced by Rostam and what a collab that could be).

    I get there are issues with Rebel Heart on the whole but I dunno why some of yall are acting like it doesn't contain a lot of impressive, interesting songs? But then there are folks who unironically stan Girl Gone Mild and someone deadass said Like A Prayer was shit so, what can you do with all those brain worms.
     
  8. I had a slight moment with Voices recently. The production would be inexcusable if awful levels/mastering weren’t a common feature of her albums ever since (sad!). I have an ounce of time for it!
     
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  9. I...gave this a 10.
     
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  10. Don’t care about Voices leaving but Best Night not even reaching an average score of 7....I hate this rate (but you’re doing a great job RJF).
     
  11. RJF

    RJF

    151
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    SCORE: 6.791


    2015 PLACEMENT: N/A
    HIGHEST SCORE: 10 x 5 (@nikkysan @eatyourself @Cutlery @wintersleep @fancygreen)
    LOWEST SCORE: 2 x 3 (@Aester @Markus1981 @happiestgirl)
    MY SCORE: 7.5/10

    This elimination order is starting to get a little weird. "Batuka" is probably one of the densest production treatments on Madame X and is part of a group of opening tracks that do kind of put the listener through the ringer a little, so maybe y'all were just a little fatigued by the time you got to it, but I think it's great. We've talked a bit about Madonna's cultural appropriation over the years this week, but I think in this instance she gets it completely right, where the entire track is about honouring the people who had inspired her, enabling them to do their thing alongside her and not behind her, and using her considering clout to bring more awareness to their story. It just sounds so defiant and formidable and unique thanks to the batuque elements, and it's just classic Mirwais/Madonna magic brought eloquently into 2020.

    Madonna was first introduced to the Batukadeiras Orquestra through Dino D'Santiago, who was responsible for connecting her with a lot of regional musicians for Madame X. She was immediately enthralled by what they did and requested a collaboration, to which they agreed. The song is basically about... perseverance, and steadfastness, and how fucking strong women are. The song almost had a title that was more on the nose re: feminism, but Madonna wanted something a little less conventional but still powerful, settling on the current title we have now, saying, "that's what it is, that's the style of music that it is. That seemed to work. Created by women, played by women." thus furthering the credit she was giving, which is great to see. Madonna plucking inspiration from another culture for her new album in 2019 could have been a disaster, but I think the way she went about it here was marvellously navigated and thankfully not the only example of her still being way ahead of her peers in terms of contemporary standards.

    Y'all will also notice that the iconic David Banda is credited as a writer also! All of Madonna's kids sing on this track, but he was the only one to request a writing credit despite only changing one-word, to which Madonna begrudgingly acquiesced, which is a SCREAM. I mean, sis, if nothing else at least you taught him right.

    The song received the fifth and final video of the Madame X era, with Madonna looking to recreate the magic of the night she was introduced to the Batukadeiras while also highlighting the origins of their music, creating a shockingly sensitive and powerful video that managed to speak on slavery in a respectful manner, while exhibiting the brilliance of something that had managed to grow out of such suffering and adversity. The ghostly ships on the horizon are a fantastic image to add to the Madonna canon. It was an amazing way to cap off what was an incredible run of videos, and proof positive that Madonna can never be counted out. The song was also performed with the Batukadeiras during the Madame X Tour, and everyone who went says it slapped but I'm afraid we'll have to wait until the official release before we can corroborate that claim.

     
  12. RJF

    RJF

    You did! Just realised it was a name scramble from when I had been tallying the highest/lowest for the previous track. Fixed now!
     
  13. RJF

    RJF

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    151. Batuka - 6.791
    152. Voices - 6.785
    153. Best Night - 6.755
    154. Veni Vidi Vici (Feat. Nas) - 6.752
    154. Broken (I'm Sorry) - 6.752
    156. Shanti / Ashtangi - 6.73
    157. Addicted - 6.712
    158. Iconic (Feat. Chance The Rapper & Mike Tyson) - 6.702
    158. Ciao Bella - 6.702
    160. Spotlight - 6.694
    161. I Love New York - 6.652
    162. Messiah - 6.639
    163. Love Song - 6.621
    163. I'd Rather Be Your Lover - 6.621
    165. Supernatural - 6.615
    166. Candy Shop - 6.588
    167. Wash All Over Me - 6.561
    168. HeartBreakCity - 6.558
    169. Bitch I'm Loca (Feat. Maluma) - 6.548
    170. Your Honesty - 6.524
    171. Beautiful Scars - 6.461
    172. Something To Remember - 6.458
    173. Love Don't Live Here Anymore - 6.448
    174. Over And Over - 6.433
    175. Another Suitcase In Another Hall - 6.409
    176. Stay - 6.367
    177. Don't Stop - 6.339
    178. Girl Gone Wild - 6.324
    179. I Know It - 6.267
    180. Act Of Contrition - 6.245
    181. Fighting Spirit - 6.227
    182. I Don't Give A (Feat. Nicki Minaj) - 6.203
    183. It's So Cool - 6.191
    184. Illuminati - 6.167
    185. Funana - 6.161
    186. Dance 2Night - 6.152
    187. Borrowed Time - 6.118
    187. History - 6.118
    189. Sooner Or Later - 6.109
    189. One More Chance - 6.109
    191. Back That Up To The Beat - 6.076
    192. Let Down Your Guard - 6.036
    193. Killers Who Are Partying - 6.015
    194. I'm A Sinner - 6.012
    195. I Fucked Up - 5.964
    196 - Some Girls - 5.933
    197. He's A Man - 5.924
    198. Give Me All Your Luvin' (Feat. Nicki Minaj & M.I.A.) - 5.921
    199. Buenos Aires - 5.894
    200. Super Pop - 5.848
    201. Revolver (Feat. Lil Wayne) - 5.827
    202. Can't Stop - 5.776
    203. Ain't No Big Deal - 5.736
    204. Turn Up The Radio - 5.727
    205. Best Friend - 5.721
    206. Graffiti Heart - 5.697
    207. Hanky Panky - 5.691
    208. Love Makes The World Go Round - 5.679
    209. Back In Business - 5.67
    210. Pretender - 5.661
    211. Lament - 5.615
    212. Cyber-Raga - 5.603
    213. Incredible - 5.545
    214. Jimmy Jimmy - 5.521
    215. Now I'm Following You - 5.497
    216. Ring My Bell - 5.424
    217. S.E.X. - 5.373
    218. Spanish Lesson - 4.997
    219. Shoo-Bee-Doo - 4.948
    220. More - 4.852
    221. What Can You Lose - 4.436
    222. Superstar - 4.391
    223. Auto-Tune Baby - 4.121
    224. Cry Baby - 3.367
    225. I'm Going Bananas - 3.327
    226. B-Day Song (Feat. M.I.A.) - 3.000
    227. Hey You - 2.976
     
  14. Welcome to the top 150, girls.

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  15. Damn... "Voices" is one of the best "Hard Candy" tracks and I just knew it was going to end up underrated.
    Would've gotten a 10 from me if it wasn't for that production.
     
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  16. RJF

    RJF

    Green titles denote fully intact albums.

    TOP 150

    Madonna (1983)

    1. Lucky Star
    2. Borderline
    3. Burning Up
    5. Holiday
    6. Think of Me
    7. Physical Attraction
    8. Everybody

    Like A Virgin (1984)

    1. Material Girl
    2. Angel
    3. Like A Virgin
    6. Dress You Up

    True Blue (1986)

    1. Papa Don't Preach
    2. Open Your Heart
    3. White Heat
    4. Live To Tell
    5. Where's the Party
    6. True Blue
    7. La Isla Bonita

    Like A Prayer (1989)

    1. Like A Prayer
    2. Express Yourself
    4. Till Death Do Us Part
    5. Promise To Try
    6. Cherish
    7. Dear Jessie
    8. Oh Father
    9. Keep It Together
    10. Spanish Eyes

    I’m Breathless (1990)

    11. Vogue

    Erotica (1992)

    1. Erotica
    2. Fever
    3. Bye Bye Baby
    4. Deeper And Deeper
    5. Where Life Begins
    6. Bad Girl
    7. Waiting
    8. Thief Of Hearts
    9. Words
    10. Rain
    11. Why's It So Hard
    12. In This Life
    13. Secret Garden

    Bedtime Stories (1994)

    1. Survival
    2. Secret
    5. Inside Of Me
    6. Human Nature
    7. Forbidden Love
    8. Love Tried To Welcome Me
    9. Sanctuary
    10. Bedtime Story
    11. Take A Bow

    Ray Of Light (1998)

    1. Drowned World/Substitute For Love
    2. Swim
    3. Ray Of Light
    4. Candy Perfume Girl
    5. Skin
    6. Nothing Really Matters
    7. Sky Fits Heaven
    9. Frozen
    10. The Power Of Goodbye
    11. To Have And Not To Hold
    12. Little Star
    13. Mer Girl
    14. Has To Be

    Music (2000)

    1. Music
    2. Impressive Instant
    3. Runaway Lover
    4. I Deserve It
    5. Amazing
    6. Nobody's Perfect
    7. Don't Tell Me
    8. What It Feels Like For A Girl
    9. Paradise (Not For Me)
    10. Gone
    11. American Pie

    American Life (2003)

    1. American Life
    2. Hollywood
    3. I'm So Stupid
    4. Love Profusion
    5. Nobody Knows Me
    6. Nothing Fails
    7. Intervention
    8. X-Static Process
    9. Mother And Father
    10. Die Another Day
    11. Easy Ride

    Confessions On A Dance Floor (2005)

    1. Hung Up
    2. Get Together
    3. Sorry
    4. Future Lovers
    6. Let It Will Be
    7. Forbidden Love
    8. Jump
    9. How High
    10. Isaac
    11. Push
    12. Like It Or Not

    Hard Candy (2008)

    2. 4 Minutes (Feat. Justin Timberlake & Timbaland)
    3. Give It 2 Me
    4. Heartbeat
    5. Miles Away
    6. She's Not Me
    8. Beat Goes On (Feat. Kanye West)
    11. Devil Wouldn't Recognize You


    MDNA (2012)

    2. Gang Bang
    3. I'm Addicted
    10. Love Spent
    11. Masterpiece
    12. Falling Free
    13. Beautiful Killer

    Rebel Heart (2015)

    1. Living For Love
    2. Devil Pray
    3. Ghosttown
    4. Unapologetic Bitch
    6. Bitch I'm Madonna (Feat. Nicki Minaj)
    7. Hold Tight
    8. Joan Of Arc
    11. Body Shop
    12. Holy Water
    13. Inside Out
    19. Rebel Heart

    Madame X (2019)

    1. Medellín (Feat. Maluma)
    2. Dark Ballet
    3. God Control
    4. Future (Feat. Quavo)
    7. Crave (Feat. Swae Lee)
    8. Crazy
    9. Come Alive
    10. Extreme Occident
    11. Faz Gostoso (Feat. Anitta)
    13. I Don't Search I Find
    14. Looking For Mercy
    15. I Rise

    B-Sides, Rarities, Complilation Tracks, Etc.

    Into The Groove
    Gambler
    Crazy For You
    Who's That Girl
    Causing A Commotion
    The Look Of Love
    Justify My Love
    Rescue Me
    This Used To Be My Playground
    Goodbye To Innocence
    I'll Remember
    I Want You (With Massive Attack)
    You'll See
    You Must Love Me
    Don't Cry For Me Argentina
    Beautiful Stranger
    Time Stood Still
    Celebration​
     
  17. matthew.

    matthew. Staff Member

    Justice for the Gone Too Soon bops!



     
  18. Batuka is great. A 7.5 from me, and I toyed with giving it more.

    The rest of MDNA can get the fuck out.
     
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  19. The fact Rebel Heart has still 10+ tracks left when I thought they were decimated. A bit of a kiii.
     
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  20. It's very cruel to hang the twin albatrosses that are American Pie and Cyber-raga around Music's neck... That album is still intact and will hopefully be for some time to come!
     
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