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Madonna: The Discography Rate - COMPLETE

Discussion in 'Charts, rates etc' started by RJF, Apr 19, 2020.

  1. RJF

    RJF

    At least it's a relatively gag-worthy end to the week.

    131
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    SCORE: 7.127


    2015 PLACEMENT: UP
    29 - 160 of 210 (6.142)
    HIGHEST SCORE: 10 x 8 (@eatyourself @sfmartin @fatyoshi @godspeed @Dreampopboy @BreatheBox @BEST FICTION @japanbonustrack)
    LOWEST SCORE: 2 x 1 (@gezza76)
    MY SCORE: 5/10

    Well, this has been a great low score clearer day for me. Yes, that's right. It got so close to making it out of the back one hundred unscathed, but I'm afraid American Life finally loses its first track, leaving Erotica as the only album still fully intact.

    I think "I'm So Stupid" owes a lot of low scores to that piercing, dissonant 404 ERROR sound that basically has everyone wrenching their headphones off their head in agony. But even when you get past the deliberate Mirwais knob twirling (tee hee), it's easily the weakest track on the album. Although it's also the genesis point to what would be several Fuzzy Dreams, which might play against it. Ugh, I don't know. It's just... not that pleasant to listen to. Madonna's delivery makes it sound like a Phoebe Buffay lost classic, and in terms of the "Wake up sheeple!" songs in her back catalogue, she's got far better. Hell, some of them were even on her most recent album. Like, I get that it's an Angry song, but it ends up sounding more petulant than furious. I have a lot of time for the album as a whole, but this is mostly a misfire to me.

    The song's live history is typically spotty; it was originally rehearsed for the Re-Invention Tour along with every other single Madonna has ever released, because that tour is as close to a Greatest Hits setlist as she's ever come. You get a brief clip of her performing it on a soundstage during I'm Going To Tell You A Secret, but that's it. However, over a decade later, she blew the dust off it and most of its parent album at the one-off show Tears Of A Clown while she was on the Australian leg of the Rebel Heart Tour, before brushing off the entire set for a charity performance later that same year. Performing this song dressed as an actual legitimate clown might be one of the surreal things I've ever witnessed in my entire life. QUEEN.



     
  2. Erotica being the last girl standing in her entirety? We absolutely love to see it, so well deserved.
     
  3. I'm So Stupid is one of the few songs on American GOD that didn't get a ten from me, and even though I agree with the assessment that it's the weakest song on the record, I still love how deliberately challenging it is? It's a freakish hybrid of bratty punk ethos and electroclash, and it shouldn't work nearly as well for me as it does. It's a common "I'm angry and I hate everything" jam here at Chez French
     
  4. I said I didn't know what to expect... but I definitely wasn't expecting that. I had no idea I'm So Stupid was so unpopular. If we had to lose an American Life song, there are three or four I would have preferred to see go first.
     
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  5. RJF

    RJF

    I'm going to take the rest of the week off, just to manage expectations. I might have time to chuck out an odd song but I doubt it. However, next week will be back to normal with four eliminations every day including the weekend to make up for it, and... I think we'll finally be able to hit the Top 100 by next Sunday.

    And that? Is carnage.

    See you on the other side.
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    131. I'm So Stupid - 7.127
    132. Push - 7.112
    132. I'm Addicted - 7.112
    134. Masterpiece - 7.091
    135. American Pie - 7.085
    136. Body Shop - 7.061
    137. Unapologetic Bitch - 7.058
    137. Extreme Occident - 7.058
    139. Looking For Mercy - 7.042
    140. You Must Love Me - 7.024
    141. Goodbye To Innocence - 7.009
    142. Gang Bang - 6.939
    143. Holy Water - 6.915
    144. Gambler - 6.912
    145. Think Of Me - 6.906
    146. Beat Goes On (Feat. Kanye West) - 6.894
    147. Beautiful Killer - 6.884
    148. Hold Tight - 6.873
    149. The Look Of Love - 6.824
    150. Future (Feat. Quavo) - 6.8
    151. Batuka - 6.791
    152. Voices - 6.785
    153. Best Night - 6.755
    154. Veni Vidi Vici (Feat. Nas) - 6.752
    154. Broken (I'm Sorry) - 6.752
    156. Shanti / Ashtangi - 6.73
    157. Addicted - 6.712
    158. Iconic (Feat. Chance The Rapper & Mike Tyson) - 6.702
    158. Ciao Bella - 6.702
    160. Spotlight - 6.694
    161. I Love New York - 6.652
    162. Messiah - 6.639
    163. Love Song - 6.621
    163. I'd Rather Be Your Lover - 6.621
    165. Supernatural - 6.615
    166. Candy Shop - 6.588
    167. Wash All Over Me - 6.561
    168. HeartBreakCity - 6.558
    169. Bitch I'm Loca (Feat. Maluma) - 6.548
    170. Your Honesty - 6.524
    171. Beautiful Scars - 6.461
    172. Something To Remember - 6.458
    173. Love Don't Live Here Anymore - 6.448
    174. Over And Over - 6.433
    175. Another Suitcase In Another Hall - 6.409
    176. Stay - 6.367
    177. Don't Stop - 6.339
    178. Girl Gone Wild - 6.324
    179. I Know It - 6.267
    180. Act Of Contrition - 6.245
    181. Fighting Spirit - 6.227
    182. I Don't Give A (Feat. Nicki Minaj) - 6.203
    183. It's So Cool - 6.191
    184. Illuminati - 6.167
    185. Funana - 6.161
    186. Dance 2Night - 6.152
    187. Borrowed Time - 6.118
    187. History - 6.118
    189. Sooner Or Later - 6.109
    189. One More Chance - 6.109
    191. Back That Up To The Beat - 6.076
    192. Let Down Your Guard - 6.036
    193. Killers Who Are Partying - 6.015
    194. I'm A Sinner - 6.012
    195. I Fucked Up - 5.964
    196 - Some Girls - 5.933
    197. He's A Man - 5.924
    198. Give Me All Your Luvin' (Feat. Nicki Minaj & M.I.A.) - 5.921
    199. Buenos Aires - 5.894
    200. Super Pop - 5.848
    201. Revolver (Feat. Lil Wayne) - 5.827
    202. Can't Stop - 5.776
    203. Ain't No Big Deal - 5.736
    204. Turn Up The Radio - 5.727
    205. Best Friend - 5.721
    206. Graffiti Heart - 5.697
    207. Hanky Panky - 5.691
    208. Love Makes The World Go Round - 5.679
    209. Back In Business - 5.67
    210. Pretender - 5.661
    211. Lament - 5.615
    212. Cyber-Raga - 5.603
    213. Incredible - 5.545
    214. Jimmy Jimmy - 5.521
    215. Now I'm Following You - 5.497
    216. Ring My Bell - 5.424
    217. S.E.X. - 5.373
    218. Spanish Lesson - 4.997
    219. Shoo-Bee-Doo - 4.948
    220. More - 4.852
    221. What Can You Lose - 4.436
    222. Superstar - 4.391
    223. Auto-Tune Baby - 4.121
    224. Cry Baby - 3.367
    225. I'm Going Bananas - 3.327
    226. B-Day Song (Feat. M.I.A.) - 3.000
    227. Hey You - 2.976
     
  6. RJF

    RJF

    Just to promote some discussion while I'm sojourning over the weekend.

    Green titles denote fully intact albums.

    TOP 130

    Madonna (1983)

    1. Lucky Star
    2. Borderline
    3. Burning Up
    5. Holiday
    7. Physical Attraction
    8. Everybody

    Like A Virgin (1984)

    1. Material Girl
    2. Angel
    3. Like A Virgin
    6. Dress You Up

    True Blue (1986)

    1. Papa Don't Preach
    2. Open Your Heart
    3. White Heat
    4. Live To Tell
    5. Where's the Party
    6. True Blue
    7. La Isla Bonita

    Like A Prayer (1989)

    1. Like A Prayer
    2. Express Yourself
    4. Till Death Do Us Part
    5. Promise To Try
    6. Cherish
    7. Dear Jessie
    8. Oh Father
    9. Keep It Together
    10. Spanish Eyes

    I’m Breathless (1990)

    11. Vogue

    Erotica (1992)

    1. Erotica
    2. Fever
    3. Bye Bye Baby
    4. Deeper And Deeper
    5. Where Life Begins
    6. Bad Girl
    7. Waiting
    8. Thief Of Hearts
    9. Words
    10. Rain
    11. Why's It So Hard
    12. In This Life
    13. Secret Garden

    Bedtime Stories (1994)

    1. Survival
    2. Secret
    5. Inside Of Me
    6. Human Nature
    7. Forbidden Love
    8. Love Tried To Welcome Me
    9. Sanctuary
    10. Bedtime Story
    11. Take A Bow

    Ray Of Light (1998)

    1. Drowned World/Substitute For Love
    2. Swim
    3. Ray Of Light
    4. Candy Perfume Girl
    5. Skin
    6. Nothing Really Matters
    7. Sky Fits Heaven
    9. Frozen
    10. The Power Of Goodbye
    11. To Have And Not To Hold
    12. Little Star
    13. Mer Girl
    14. Has To Be

    Music (2000)

    1. Music
    2. Impressive Instant
    3. Runaway Lover
    4. I Deserve It
    5. Amazing
    6. Nobody's Perfect
    7. Don't Tell Me
    8. What It Feels Like For A Girl
    9. Paradise (Not For Me)
    10. Gone

    American Life (2003)

    1. American Life
    2. Hollywood
    4. Love Profusion
    5. Nobody Knows Me
    6. Nothing Fails
    7. Intervention
    8. X-Static Process
    9. Mother And Father
    10. Die Another Day
    11. Easy Ride

    Confessions On A Dance Floor (2005)

    1. Hung Up
    2. Get Together
    3. Sorry
    4. Future Lovers
    6. Let It Will Be
    7. Forbidden Love
    8. Jump
    9. How High
    10. Isaac
    12. Like It Or Not

    Hard Candy (2008)

    2. 4 Minutes (Feat. Justin Timberlake & Timbaland)
    3. Give It 2 Me
    4. Heartbeat
    5. Miles Away
    6. She's Not Me
    11. Devil Wouldn't Recognize You

    MDNA (2012)

    10. Love Spent
    12. Falling Free

    Rebel Heart (2015)

    1. Living For Love
    2. Devil Pray
    3. Ghosttown
    6. Bitch I'm Madonna (Feat. Nicki Minaj)
    8. Joan Of Arc
    13. Inside Out
    19. Rebel Heart

    Madame X (2019)

    1. Medellín (Feat. Maluma)
    2. Dark Ballet
    3. God Control
    7. Crave (Feat. Swae Lee)
    8. Crazy
    9. Come Alive
    11. Faz Gostoso (Feat. Anitta)
    13. I Don't Search I Find
    15. I Rise

    B-Sides, Rarities, Complilation Tracks, Etc.

    Into The Groove
    Crazy For You
    Who's That Girl
    Causing A Commotion
    Justify My Love
    Rescue Me
    This Used To Be My Playground
    I'll Remember
    I Want You (With Massive Attack)
    You'll See
    Don't Cry For Me Argentina
    Beautiful Stranger
    Time Stood Still
    Celebration​
     
  7. I'm very happy that I Want You is still standing. That and Goodbye To Innocence were two big rediscoveries for me.
     
  8. I'm So Stupid - 5.5. My least favourite song on the album. Parts of it sound like a dentist's drill to my brain and it's just all a bit too samey.
     
  9. Same. I did know that "I'm So Stupid" is unpopular, but it doesn't really deserve this harsh treatment.

    In my opinion, "American Life" should've been the last album to stay intact, but oh well.
    Also, there are multiple songs from "Erotica" that are weaker than "I'm So Stupid", too, and I would've liked to see them leave a while ago.
     
  10. Oh really? Name them.
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  11. RJF

    RJF

    Sometimes I watch y'all fight like dogs in this thread while also looking at the Top 20 in Excel. It pleases me.
     
  12. "Where Life Begins", "Fever", "Secret Garden", "Bye Bye Baby", "In This Life" and...
    ...I'm not ready to name the final one.

    All five songs received at least a 6.5 from me, so it's not that I dislike any of them.

    I feel like "Fever" is running out of time and will be eliminated very soon.
     
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  13. I mean all of those songs are excellent but Secret Garden in particular is one of the most important songs in Madonna's entire discography so I'm going to need you to take a seat.
     
  14. I'll give you Fever but the rest are essential, especially In This Life and Secret Garden.
     
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    Still handed it a 9 because I couldn't do my namesake that dirty. The push-and-pull of the synth and percussion is so good.

    (Can White Heat and Fever fuck off already as well? Thank you.)
     
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  16. I revisit In This Life sparingly for reasons I’ve already stated, but...oh baby no.

    I’ve chosen to ignore the Secret Legend slander for my own sanity and blood pressure.
     
  17. I mean. Why?
    This is... so wrong sis.
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    Happy that Erotica is untouched. Didn't expect that, for real. God Bless the "Did You Do It" ban.
    I think the first song to leave will be either Why It's So Hard or In This Life. The first used to be a major favorite when I got into Madonna but got bored of it (The Girlie performance tho? whew).
    In This Life is beatiful and for sure it is important, the execution is part of the concept, but it does feel like it goes on for too long. That last minute or so is actually fantastic.
     
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  18. I don’t mind I’m So Stupid going at this point as it’s a pretty damn good score for it. I never really understood the disdain, bar it being the weakest song on its album. Still. Mirwais snapped.
     
  19. Why's It So Hard is underrated, I find. Even by myself! It's not until I'm listening to it in context of Erotica as a whole that it fully hits me.
     
  20. I just worry that once the first Erotica song comes out, it will actually bleed out dd. But if that's around top50, I'm fine then.
     
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