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Madonna: The Discography Rate - COMPLETE

Discussion in 'Charts, rates etc' started by RJF, Apr 19, 2020.

  1. RJF


    SCORE: 7.188

    2015 PLACEMENT: DOWN 7
    - 120 of 210 (6.932)
    HIGHEST SCORE: 10 x 11 (@AshtrayHeart @Vasilios @Andy French @torontodj @scottdisick94 @unnameable @Crisp X @Mister_G @Pop Life @Remorque @Weslicious)
    LOWEST SCORE: 2 x 1 (@godspeed)
    MY SCORE: 6/10

    A question for our times more than ever: where is the party? True Blue has been unbothered for a very long time (nearly eighty places!) but as we approach the Top 100, not even one of the best selling albums of all time is safe, and it loses one of its few album tracks.

    Sorry stans, but it's mostly a meh from me, especially at this stage of the rate. You have so many superior 80s Madonna bops to choose from that feel far more urgent and fun and free. I don't find there to be anything particularly wrong with this but considering she was essentially the pedigree for a whole genre back then, I think standards are allowed to be a little higher. It's a fun bop, but there are funner, boppier fun bops to be had despite the Stephan Bray/Pat Leonard 80s dream tag team at the helm with the lady herself. Still though, Madonna singing about how fucking great dancing is never really gets old, and that looped laugh at the end will haunt me to my grave, so who's the real winner here?

    Despite being an album track, "Where's The Party" actually has a pretty decent live history. It had an outing on the Who's That Girl But Really True Blue Tour, along with receiving a spot on the iconic Blond Ambition as well. It would also get dusted off again over twenty years later when Stuart Price would interpolate it in a mash up between "Music" and "Disco Inferno" for, of course, the Confessions Tour. Enjoy!

  2. Wheremst Art The Party deserved Top 100 placement. The little album track that could.
  3. RJF


    Tomorrow: I finally shake off the ennui from a rough weekend and do write ups that don't have the phrase, "It's a fun bop, but there are funner, boppier fun bops to be had" in them. See you then!

    127. Where's The Party - 7.188
    128. Falling Free - 7.179
    129. Crazy - 7.173
    130. Nobody's Perfect - 7.139
    131. I'm So Stupid - 7.127
    132. Push - 7.112
    132. I'm Addicted - 7.112
    134. Masterpiece - 7.091
    135. American Pie - 7.085
    136. Body Shop - 7.061
    137. Unapologetic Bitch - 7.058
    137. Extreme Occident - 7.058
    139. Looking For Mercy - 7.042
    140. You Must Love Me - 7.024
    141. Goodbye To Innocence - 7.009
    142. Gang Bang - 6.939
    143. Holy Water - 6.915
    144. Gambler - 6.912
    145. Think Of Me - 6.906
    146. Beat Goes On (Feat. Kanye West) - 6.894
    147. Beautiful Killer - 6.884
    148. Hold Tight - 6.873
    149. The Look Of Love - 6.824
    150. Future (Feat. Quavo) - 6.8
    151. Batuka - 6.791
    152. Voices - 6.785
    153. Best Night - 6.755
    154. Veni Vidi Vici (Feat. Nas) - 6.752
    154. Broken (I'm Sorry) - 6.752
    156. Shanti / Ashtangi - 6.73
    157. Addicted - 6.712
    158. Iconic (Feat. Chance The Rapper & Mike Tyson) - 6.702
    158. Ciao Bella - 6.702
    160. Spotlight - 6.694
    161. I Love New York - 6.652
    162. Messiah - 6.639
    163. Love Song - 6.621
    163. I'd Rather Be Your Lover - 6.621
    165. Supernatural - 6.615
    166. Candy Shop - 6.588
    167. Wash All Over Me - 6.561
    168. HeartBreakCity - 6.558
    169. Bitch I'm Loca (Feat. Maluma) - 6.548
    170. Your Honesty - 6.524
    171. Beautiful Scars - 6.461
    172. Something To Remember - 6.458
    173. Love Don't Live Here Anymore - 6.448
    174. Over And Over - 6.433
    175. Another Suitcase In Another Hall - 6.409
    176. Stay - 6.367
    177. Don't Stop - 6.339
    178. Girl Gone Wild - 6.324
    179. I Know It - 6.267
    180. Act Of Contrition - 6.245
    181. Fighting Spirit - 6.227
    182. I Don't Give A (Feat. Nicki Minaj) - 6.203
    183. It's So Cool - 6.191
    184. Illuminati - 6.167
    185. Funana - 6.161
    186. Dance 2Night - 6.152
    187. Borrowed Time - 6.118
    187. History - 6.118
    189. Sooner Or Later - 6.109
    189. One More Chance - 6.109
    191. Back That Up To The Beat - 6.076
    192. Let Down Your Guard - 6.036
    193. Killers Who Are Partying - 6.015
    194. I'm A Sinner - 6.012
    195. I Fucked Up - 5.964
    196 - Some Girls - 5.933
    197. He's A Man - 5.924
    198. Give Me All Your Luvin' (Feat. Nicki Minaj & M.I.A.) - 5.921
    199. Buenos Aires - 5.894
    200. Super Pop - 5.848
    201. Revolver (Feat. Lil Wayne) - 5.827
    202. Can't Stop - 5.776
    203. Ain't No Big Deal - 5.736
    204. Turn Up The Radio - 5.727
    205. Best Friend - 5.721
    206. Graffiti Heart - 5.697
    207. Hanky Panky - 5.691
    208. Love Makes The World Go Round - 5.679
    209. Back In Business - 5.67
    210. Pretender - 5.661
    211. Lament - 5.615
    212. Cyber-Raga - 5.603
    213. Incredible - 5.545
    214. Jimmy Jimmy - 5.521
    215. Now I'm Following You - 5.497
    216. Ring My Bell - 5.424
    217. S.E.X. - 5.373
    218. Spanish Lesson - 4.997
    219. Shoo-Bee-Doo - 4.948
    220. More - 4.852
    221. What Can You Lose - 4.436
    222. Superstar - 4.391
    223. Auto-Tune Baby - 4.121
    224. Cry Baby - 3.367
    225. I'm Going Bananas - 3.327
    226. B-Day Song (Feat. M.I.A.) - 3.000
    227. Hey You - 2.976
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    Oh well.
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  5. K94


  6. Losing three 7's (well, "Falling Free" got a 7.5 from me) in a row, followed by a 6 is quite a difference compared to most of the elimination days for me. There's almost always at least one painful elimination, so I'm glad to see that didn't happen today.

    There are definitely worse songs than three of these, but I'm not mad about them leaving.
    I think I slightly underscored "Nobody's Perfect" and "Crazy", while overscored "Falling Free" a bit.

    "White Heat" is the best out of the four album tracks from "True Blue", but I won't be bothered if it left at this point.
    "Love Spent" is a quite random last "MDNA" song standing, and *does copy - paste* I won't be bothered if it left at this point.
  7. Crazy was one of the biggest growers from Madame X for me. Her vocal delivery is just unlike anything we've heard from her in years.

    Falling Free was one of my favourites from MDNA at the time, I've cooled on it slightly in recent years. The way her vocal sounds artificially slowed or something in the ending has always irked me, but the melody and general vibe is pretty. It definitely feels like the last track on the album, vs the "regular deluxe" versions of following albums where the shortened tracklistings feel incomplete.

    Not to derail cos it was ages ago but...

    I'm Addicted is a bop and genuinely don't hear all the aforementioned mastering/production problems in it that I can hear in some of the other songs from 2012-2015. The mostly-robotic-slightly-absent vocal just works for me there. My first 10 out at this stage isn't too bad though.

    American Pie (the single) was the first Madonna release I owned - one of the first CDs I had. My whole family loved it and I remember it had a CD-ROM music video and I guess that brief shot of the gay couple was the first time I saw two men kissing, sorry Christina, so yeah, special place, even though it just feels like an afterthought song now.
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  8. Oh my, I remember coming across this video a while ago...

    ...but never noticed the description, which has me dead:
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  9. Well at least there’s 10 others who lose their wig to Where’s the Party.
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  10. R27


    I hope some of you ingrates never find where the party is.
  11. Where’s The Party averaging around a 7???

    Did you actually flip over the fucking record???

    One of the best side B opening tracks ever.
  12. The rat video is the highlight of the Rebel Heart era for me.
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  13. My introvert self would be satisfied with this.

    I consider "Where's the Party" average at best, and can easily lump it with "Jimmy Jimmy" and (superior) "Love Makes the World Go Round" as quite fun, but greatly unremarkable filler-ish tracks. It outstayed its welcome.
  14. ...I swear this thread is going to give me a fucking ulcer
  15. Where's the party out white heat in???

    Personal taste apart, it's fantastic to see how well engineered True Blue is. 5 Killer singles with 2 extra songs that could have been singles (White Heat, Where's The Party) and 2 fillers that just hurt it at aallll, and fit all along. Where's The Party is a behemoth of an 80's song, maybe that's part of why I dislike it, as it gets a bit... "pastiche" (?).

    Nobody's Perfect used to be one of my favorites when I first started with Madonna, but it didn't age that well with me. I still find it interesting as an experiment. The whole fucked up autotune discussing humanity... yeah.

    I wish I understood what she's saying in Crazy while singing Portuguese. Genius says it's "Você não vai me por tão louca" but I swear it's some type of double-entendre to sound like "Você não vai uma puta louca". The original line doesn't make much sense anyway nn. But she served some vocals right? and I love "Eu te amo, mas não vou deixar me destruir".

    Falling Free is gorgeous, especially coming from where it does. And It keeps getting better with time, too. Hearing how she mentioned it in 2015 when most of us probably think she forgot what "MDNA" was at the moment she got into her plane out of Argentina in 2012... and that she "like" the song, while mentioning later in 2019 that she felt some type of pressure to record her last 2 albuns, sounds even more special.

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  16. Falling Free is atrocious; the vocal production is awful, the synth 'instruments' are terrible and cheapen the entire thing, and the only thing that stops it from being less than the 4.5 I gave it is the decent lyricism. Both Falling Free and Masterpiece suffer from exactly the same issues, so I'm happy they weren't the last songs standing from MDNA.

    Nobody's Perfect on the other hand is a fantastic song and one of the above-average songs on an album that otherwise mostly hovers around the 6 - 7.5 range. Gone and I Deserve It should've gone before, at a minimum.
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  17. Gone is one of the best in Music!
  18. nn have we really eliminated that many songs already????
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  19. I know. I can’t believe we are approaching the top 100. With each latest elimination, I get saltier.
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