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Madonna: The Discography Rate - COMPLETE

Discussion in 'Charts, rates etc' started by RJF, Apr 19, 2020.

  1. RJF



    SCORE: 7.685

    2015 PLACEMENT: DOWN 32 - 61 of 210 (7.912)
    HIGHEST SCORE: 10 x 18 (@aux @Butterfly @dodoriazarbon @Remyky22 @Suburbia @fatyoshi @torontodj @Syzygyz @Dreampopboy @scottdisick94 @Sideout @unnameable @joeee @phoenix123 @wintersleep @Remorque @nametag @Markus1981)
    LOWEST SCORE: 4 x (@OSHi @dylanaber @theelusivechanteuse @Modeblock @Coochi @Pop Life)
    MY SCORE: 7/10

    I don't know if I've mentioned so far in the rate, but Madonna's been through shit. Like, loads. Her response through her music is usually resilience; pushing it off as unbothered and coming back stronger than before. So I guess, after over thirty years, she was due at least one song where she admits, "Hey, that actually kind of hurts sometimes." and... who can blame her? When Madonna's career is looked back on in retrospect years from now, I hope there's focus on the truly brutal turn she had from the press for most of it. I also remember thinking that this song hit doubly hard around the Rebel Heart era because it felt like the first time she was treated as something truly... repulsive in the pop sphere. Like the very idea of her doing everything she was doing at her age warranted eradication. The incident with Drake at Coachella in particular, where he spent months flirting with her on Instagram only to run away like a child when he got what he wanted was the height of it. I guess MILFs are only a sexy concept when you're harassing them on Instagram, I guess.

    But yes, I like this. Queen sounds lovely on it, and... I think it just manages to avoid hitting my saccharine barrier because in general it's rather sonically buoyant. It probably boasts one of the more surprisingly catchy choruses on the album too. And plus, like I said above, sis has kind of earned a little moment of self-pity and telling people to back off for two seconds. It's easily one of the best ballads on Rebel Heart, so it makes sense that it has made it as far as it did while the more maudlin, treacly numbers faded away.

    The song, oddly enough, didn't get a slot on the Rebel Heart Tour despite it being an obvious favourite of Madonna's. I think it might have been rumoured to be part of the section that ended up getting entirely cut, but we'll never know. So instead, enjoy these performances of it on the Ellen Degenerate Show, and during the iconic Tears Of A Clown show.

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  2. I really like Joan Of Arc.
  3. RJF


    Lucky Star
    Burning Up

    Material Girl
    Like A Virgin
    Dress You Up

    Papa Don't Preach
    Open Your Heart
    Live To Tell
    True Blue
    La Isla Bonita

    Like A Prayer
    Express Yourself
    Till Death Do Us Part
    Promise To Try
    Oh Father
    Spanish Eyes


    Deeper And Deeper
    Bad Girl
    Thief Of Hearts

    Human Nature
    Bedtime Story
    Take A Bow

    Drowned World/Substitute For Love
    Ray Of Light
    Nothing Really Matters
    Sky Fits Heaven
    The Power Of Goodbye
    To Have And Not To Hold
    Mer Girl
    Has To Be

    Impressive Instant
    I Deserve It
    Don't Tell Me
    What It Feels Like For A Girl
    Paradise (Not For Me)

    American Life
    Love Profusion
    Nobody Knows Me
    Nothing Fails
    X-Static Process
    Mother And Father
    Die Another Day
    Easy Ride

    Hung Up
    Get Together
    Future Lovers
    Let It Will Be
    Forbidden Love

    Give It 2 Me
    Miles Away
    Devil Wouldn't Recognize You​

    Living For Love
    Devil Pray
    Bitch I'm Madonna (Feat. Nicki Minaj)
    Rebel Heart

    Medellín (Feat. Maluma)
    God Control
    Crave (Feat. Swae Lee)
    I Don't Search I Find

    Into The Groove
    Crazy For You
    Who's That Girl
    Causing A Commotion
    Justify My Love
    Rescue Me
    I'll Remember
    I Want You (With Massive Attack)
    You'll See
    Beautiful Stranger
    Time Stood Still
  4. Joan Of Arc is in my Top 7 Rebel Heart songs. I gave it 8.

    We need a small American Life cull.
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  5. Lovely write up and I’m glad someone called out Drake. I’ve seen Madonna fans defend him, claiming it was all about her lip balm. It was childish what he did.

    Edit: wow, that Tears of a Clown performance!
  6. Nothing of great value was lost today. That's nice for a change.
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  7. Joan of Arc is really affecting and she sounds lovely on it. I also weirdly recall Sam Smith tweeting about it when the album was released, so...snatch that promo!

    And yes, she was absolutely done dirty by Drake in the fallout from the Coachella kiss. He basically got off scot-free and left her to deal with people talking about how old and gross she was, one post even going so far as to call it assault. Nasty.
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  8. Good to see "Joan of Arc" leave. It's cute, but certainly doesn't belong to her top 100.

    The fact that "Living for Love", "Bitch I'm Madonna" and the title track got anywhere near the top 5 of songs from "Rebel Heart" is laughable.
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  9. We get it.
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  10. At this point I'd be fine with Bitch I'm Madonna getting eliminated just so some of you will shut the fuck up about wanting it to leave with every new elimination
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  11. There are so many songs I want to leave but I’m not gonna bleat on about it constantly. It’s not that deep!
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  12. I doubt that'll happen regardless.
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  13. Bitch I’m Madonna is excellent. The only track from Rebel Heart that I think has slightly overstayed its welcome now is Devil Pray.
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  14. I do like Bitch I'm Madonna, but Living For Love still being here is a joke, when it's really nothing more than an uninspired basic bop... that isn't even that much of a bop.
  15. Wait, "Joan Of Arc" is legitimately great? I love the tracks where she makes tempered claims to greatness (which contrasts quite directly with several songs on Rebel Heart itself), and the production on it is just really breezily lovely. This is putting me on edge!
  16. No.
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  17. Top 5 of "Rebel Heart" in the 2015 was:
    1. Ghosttown
    2. Living for Love
    3. Devil Pray
    4. Joan of Arc
    5. Rebel Heart

    Not seeing "Bitch I'm Madonna" among them makes me hopeful that it's going to leave soon. Then again, the elimination order for that album has differed quite a lot between the two rates, so who knows...

    Aside from that, I think that "Has to Be" and "I Deserve It" are running out of time and will be eliminated very soon, despite being far from my lowest rated songs.
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  18. I stand firm that Bitch I’m Madonna deserved a better performance on the Rebel Heart Tour.
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  19. Also, I find it hilarious that "Rebel Heart", "True Blue" and "Bedtime Stories" are all down to five songs, despite the former losing about 34 more songs than the latter two.

    In a perfect world, "Bedtime Stories" would now have nine songs standing... * starts sobbing because of the losses of "Forbidden Love" and "Love Tried to Welcome Me" *
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  20. I would have rated "Joan Of Arc" higher if it weren't for that ridiculous album mix.

    Miss Joan did not require the presence of bouncy drums and those goddamn incessant pitch-affected wails assaulting listeners from all soundscape vantage points during the chorus.

    'Rebel Heart' really is such a frustrating album.
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