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Madonna: The Discography Rate

Discussion in 'Charts, rates etc' started by RJF, Apr 19, 2020.

  1. RJF

    RJF

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    It begins.

    Five years ago, the forum embarked on a journey the likes of which had never been seen before: we were going to rate Madonna's entire discography, from beginning to end, and find out what her best song was. And I was your shepherd through this valley of the shadow of foolishness. It invented popularised the 11/10 mechanic, was spread across three rates, took a whole year, and even survived the host getting banned twice in that same year (seriously what the fuck even was that) but by the end, we had done it. We had created a definitive countdown of every single song Madonna has ever released.

    Now, it's time to do it all over again.

    Madonna is the most successful female artist of all time. Let that sink in just a little bit because "of all time" is a phrase that is probably going to be coming up a lot in the next six months I plan on this thread being on the first page of this sub-forum. There are no caveats or asterisks or subgenres next to that title. No one else has done this more successfully than her. Every single artist we talk about and love on this forum? Madonna outsold. Every single drastic image change or sound shift or brand endorsement? Madonna probably did it and better. Pissed off the Vatican because the statue your ancestral home town erected in your honour was "too sexy"? Madonna did that decades ago, hun. The current Pope probably stans to be honest.

    Madonna is:
    • a maverick
    • a provocateur
    • a Catholic, sometimes
    • a performer
    • a songwriter
    • an actress
    • a director
    • an activist
    • an ally
    • a mother
    • a skincare company CEO
    • a children's book author
    • an owner of a brand of gyms
    • showing your fave how it's done
    • in better shape and better looking than you, and you're half her age
    • an awesome-in-the-classic-sense legend
    Madonna is not:
    • your bitch, so don't even think about hanging your shit on her
    Three hundred million records sold, the highest grossing solo touring artist of all time with a whopping $1.4 billion in ticket sales, and will only stop when you fucking kill her. Madonna is the Queen of Pop. And we're going to rate every single song she's ever released... again.
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    Here's how it works:

    1. You give all of the below songs a score between 0-10, and one song can be awarded an 11/10.
    Half points are allowed, and I'm not allowing anything that's any smaller because frankly I know good and goddamn well some of y'all will fret over the difference between a 6.7 and a 6.8 and frankly I don't want that nonsense in my inbox.

    2. Don't be a fucking moron, and don't troll.
    Like... exactly what it says on the tin. There's good and bad everywhere on each album presented, so score accordingly. We're all big girls these days; bombing out a particular album or overscoring certain album to the point where your scores make no difference outside of puffing up averages isn't allowed, and will get your ballot challenged and/or thrown out. Additionally, DO YOUR HOMEWORK. Some of these songs were born out of the some of the biggest social movements in history and Madonna's role in these movements helped moved the dial. Know what you're scoring.

    3. Send your scores to me by 15th June.
    There's a lot of music to cover in here, I know, but I'm hoping that y'all are familiar with most of this stuff anyway, and without the pressure of commentary it should be fairly doable in two months... maybe even less considering we're all trapped indoors with nothing to do but listen to music.

    4. Commentary is NOT permitted outside of your 11/10
    If you submit commentary for songs outside of your 11/10 choice, it will not be used. The best thing about the original threads was how they all ended up having a buzz and an atmosphere. It was like unwinding in a bar over some drinks with friends and discussing your mutual favourite subject. I'm going to strive to continue that atmosphere, and I actively encourage y'all to post and share what you would have sent to me anyway.
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    Phew! Buckle your seatbelts girls!

    There is no hyperbole present when I say that the albums and songs you're going to be rating over the next two months are genre-defining in their success and brilliance. It doesn't get bigger than the music on offer here. This will probably be the most difficult rate most of y'all have ever done. There are probably around forty songs here that have legitimate claims to the winning spot, and for the first ever time, they're actually all properly against each other rather than being spread across different rates. Anyone who has maybe got ahead of doing their scores will attest to the difficulty, I'm sure. I wish you an ounce of luck.

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    Madonna (1983)

    1. Lucky Star
    2. Borderline
    3. Burning Up
    4. I Know It
    5. Holiday
    6. Think of Me
    7. Physical Attraction
    8. Everybody

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    Like A Virgin (1984)

    1. Material Girl
    2. Angel
    3. Like A Virgin
    4. Over And Over
    5. Love Don't Live Here Anymore
    6. Dress You Up
    7. Shoo-Bee-Doo
    8. Pretender
    9. Stay

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    True Blue (1986)

    1. Papa Don't Preach
    2. Open Your Heart
    3. White Heat
    4. Live To Tell
    5. Where's the Party
    6. True Blue
    7. La Isla Bonita
    8. Jimmy Jimmy
    9. Love Makes the World Go Round

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    Like A Prayer (1989)

    1. Like A Prayer
    2. Express Yourself
    3. Love Song
    4. Till Death Do Us Part
    5. Promise To Try
    6. Cherish
    7. Dear Jessie
    8. Oh Father
    9. Keep It Together
    10. Spanish Eyes
    11. Act Of Contrition

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    I’m Breathless (1990)

    1. He's A Man
    2. Sooner Or Later
    3. Hanky Panky
    4. I'm Going Bananas
    5. Cry Baby
    6. Something To Remember
    7. Back In Business
    8. More
    9. What Can You Lose
    10. Now I'm Following You
    11. Vogue

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    Erotica (1992)

    1. Erotica
    2. Fever
    3. Bye Bye Baby
    4. Deeper And Deeper
    5. Where Life Begins
    6. Bad Girl
    7. Waiting
    8. Thief Of Hearts
    9. Words
    10. Rain
    11. Why's It So Hard
    12. In This Life
    13. Secret Garden

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    Bedtime Stories (1994)

    1. Survival
    2. Secret
    3. I'd Rather Be Your Lover
    4. Don't Stop
    5. Inside Of Me
    6. Human Nature
    7. Forbidden Love
    8. Love Tried To Welcome Me
    9. Sanctuary
    10. Bedtime Story
    11. Take A Bow

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    Ray Of Light (1998)

    1. Drowned World/Substitute For Love
    2. Swim
    3. Ray Of Light
    4. Candy Perfume Girl
    5. Skin
    6. Nothing Really Matters
    7. Sky Fits Heaven
    8. Shanti/Ashtangi
    9. Frozen
    10. The Power Of Goodbye
    11. To Have And Not To Hold
    12. Little Star
    13. Mer Girl
    14. Has To Be

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    Music (2000)

    1. Music
    2. Impressive Instant
    3. Runaway Lover
    4. I Deserve It
    5. Amazing
    6. Nobody's Perfect
    7. Don't Tell Me
    8. What It Feels Like For A Girl
    9. Paradise (Not For Me)
    10. Gone
    11. American Pie
    12. Cyber-Raga

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    American Life (2003)

    1. American Life
    2. Hollywood
    3. I'm So Stupid
    4. Love Profusion
    5. Nobody Knows Me
    6. Nothing Fails
    7. Intervention
    8. X-Static Process
    9. Mother And Father
    10. Die Another Day
    11. Easy Ride

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    Confessions On A Dance Floor (2005)

    1. Hung Up
    2. Get Together
    3. Sorry
    4. Future Lovers
    5. I Love New York
    6. Let It Will Be
    7. Forbidden Love
    8. Jump
    9. How High
    10. Isaac
    11. Push
    12. Like It Or Not
    13. Fighting Spirit
    14. Super Pop

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    Hard Candy (2008)

    1. Candy Shop
    2. 4 Minutes (Feat. Justin Timberlake & Timbaland)
    3. Give It 2 Me
    4. Heartbeat
    5. Miles Away
    6. She's Not Me
    7. Incredible
    8. Beat Goes On (Feat. Kanye West)
    9. Dance 2Night
    10. Spanish Lesson
    11. Devil Wouldn't Recognize You
    12. Voices
    13. Ring My Bell

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    MDNA (2012)

    1. Girl Gone Wild
    2. Gang Bang
    3. I'm Addicted
    4. Turn Up The Radio
    5. Give Me All Your Luvin' (Feat. Nicki Minaj & M.I.A.)
    6. Some Girls
    7. Superstar
    8. I Don't Give A (Feat. Nick Minaj)
    9. I'm A Sinner
    10. Love Spent
    11. Masterpiece
    12. Falling Free
    13. Beautiful Killer
    14. I Fucked Up
    15. B-Day Song (Feat. M.I.A.)
    16. Best Friend

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    Rebel Heart (2015)

    1. Living For Love
    2. Devil Pray
    3. Ghosttown
    4. Unapologetic Bitch
    5. Illuminati
    6. Bitch I'm Madonna (Feat. Nicki Minaj)
    7. Hold Tight
    8. Joan Of Arc
    9. Iconic (Feat. Chance The Rapper & Mike Tyson)
    10. HeartBreakCity
    11. Body Shop
    12. Holy Water
    13. Inside Out
    14. Wash All Over Me
    15. Best Night
    16. Veni Vidi Vici (Feat. Nas)
    17. S.E.X.
    18. Messiah
    19. Rebel Heart
    20. Beautiful Scars
    21. Borrowed Time
    22. Addicted
    23. Graffiti Heart
    24. Autotune Baby

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    Madame X (2019)

    1. Medellín (Feat. Maluma)
    2. Dark Ballet
    3. God Control
    4. Future (Feat. Quavo)
    5. Batuka
    6. Killers Who Are Partying
    7. Crave (Feat. Swae Lee)
    8. Crazy
    9. Come Alive
    10. Extreme Occident
    11. Faz Gostoso (Feat. Anitta)
    12. Bitch I'm Loca (Feat. Maluma)
    13. I Don't Search I Find
    14. Looking For Mercy
    15. I Rise
    16. Funana
    17. Back that Up To The Beat
    18. Ciao Bella

    B-Sides, Rarities, Complilation Tracks, Etc.

    Into The Groove
    Gambler
    Crazy For You
    Spotlight
    Ain't No Big Deal
    Who's That Girl
    Causing A Commotion
    The Look Of Love
    Can't Stop
    Supernatural
    Justify My Love
    Rescue Me
    This Used To Be My Playground
    Goodbye To Innocence
    I'll Remember
    Let Down Your Guard
    I Want You (With Massive Attack)
    You'll See
    One More Chance
    You Must Love Me
    Don't Cry For Me Argentina
    Another Suitcase In Another Hall
    Buenos Aires
    Lament
    Beautiful Stranger
    Time Stood Still
    Your Honesty
    Hey You
    History
    Celebration
    Revolver
    It's So Cool
    Broken (I'm Sorry)

    EASY PM LIST

    This is what the current Madonna ballot is looking like. I remember at the time I took some heat for reducing Evita, but... does anyone really want to rate all thirty songs on it for most of them to bomb out in the bottom fifty? Save some accolades for most of I'm Breathless.​

    Madonna (1983)


    1. Lucky Star
    2. Borderline
    3. Burning Up
    4. I Know It
    5. Holiday
    6. Think of Me
    7. Physical Attraction
    8. Everybody

    Like A Virgin (1984)

    1. Material Girl
    2. Angel
    3. Like A Virgin
    4. Over And Over
    5. Love Don't Live Here Anymore
    6. Dress You Up
    7. Shoo-Bee-Doo
    8. Pretender
    9. Stay

    True Blue (1986)

    1. Papa Don't Preach
    2. Open Your Heart
    3. White Heat
    4. Live To Tell
    5. Where's the Party
    6. True Blue
    7. La Isla Bonita
    8. Jimmy Jimmy
    9. Love Makes the World Go Round

    Like A Prayer (1989)

    1. Like A Prayer
    2. Express Yourself
    3. Love Song
    4. Till Death Do Us Part
    5. Promise To Try
    6. Cherish
    7. Dear Jessie
    8. Oh Father
    9. Keep It Together
    10. Spanish Eyes
    11. Act Of Contrition

    I’m Breathless (1990)

    1. He's A Man
    2. Sooner Or Later
    3. Hanky Panky
    4. I'm Going Bananas
    5. Cry Baby
    6. Something To Remember
    7. Back In Business
    8. More
    9. What Can You Lose
    10. Now I'm Following You
    11. Vogue

    Erotica (1992)

    1. Erotica
    2. Fever
    3. Bye Bye Baby
    4. Deeper And Deeper
    5. Where Life Begins
    6. Bad Girl
    7. Waiting
    8. Thief Of Hearts
    9. Words
    10. Rain
    11. Why's It So Hard
    12. In This Life
    13. Secret Garden

    Bedtime Stories (1994)

    1. Survival
    2. Secret
    3. I'd Rather Be Your Lover
    4. Don't Stop
    5. Inside Of Me
    6. Human Nature
    7. Forbidden Love
    8. Love Tried To Welcome Me
    9. Sanctuary
    10. Bedtime Story
    11. Take A Bow

    Ray Of Light (1998)

    1. Drowned World/Substitute For Love
    2. Swim
    3. Ray Of Light
    4. Candy Perfume Girl
    5. Skin
    6. Nothing Really Matters
    7. Sky Fits Heaven
    8. Shanti/Ashtangi
    9. Frozen
    10. The Power Of Goodbye
    11. To Have And Not To Hold
    12. Little Star
    13. Mer Girl
    14. Has To Be

    Music (2000)

    1. Music
    2. Impressive Instant
    3. Runaway Lover
    4. I Deserve It
    5. Amazing
    6. Nobody's Perfect
    7. Don't Tell Me
    8. What It Feels Like For A Girl
    9. Paradise (Not For Me)
    10. Gone
    11. American Pie
    12. Cyber-Raga

    American Life (2003)

    1. American Life
    2. Hollywood
    3. I'm So Stupid
    4. Love Profusion
    5. Nobody Knows Me
    6. Nothing Fails
    7. Intervention
    8. X-Static Process
    9. Mother And Father
    10. Die Another Day
    11. Easy Ride

    Confessions On A Dance Floor (2005)

    1. Hung Up
    2. Get Together
    3. Sorry
    4. Future Lovers
    5. I Love New York
    6. Let It Will Be
    7. Forbidden Love
    8. Jump
    9. How High
    10. Isaac
    11. Push
    12. Like It Or Not
    13. Fighting Spirit
    14. Super Pop

    Hard Candy (2008)

    1. Candy Shop
    2. 4 Minutes (Feat. Justin Timberlake & Timbaland)
    3. Give It 2 Me
    4. Heartbeat
    5. Miles Away
    6. She's Not Me
    7. Incredible
    8. Beat Goes On (Feat. Kanye West)
    9. Dance 2Night
    10. Spanish Lesson
    11. Devil Wouldn't Recognize You
    12. Voices
    13. Ring My Bell

    MDNA (2012)

    1. Girl Gone Wild
    2. Gang Bang
    3. I'm Addicted
    4. Turn Up The Radio
    5. Give Me All Your Luvin' (Feat. Nicki Minaj & M.I.A.)
    6. Some Girls
    7. Superstar
    8. I Don't Give A (Feat. Nick Minaj)
    9. I'm A Sinner
    10. Love Spent
    11. Masterpiece
    12. Falling Free
    13. Beautiful Killer
    14. I Fucked Up
    15. B-Day Song (Feat. M.I.A.)
    16. Best Friend

    Rebel Heart (2015)

    1. Living For Love
    2. Devil Pray
    3. Ghosttown
    4. Unapologetic Bitch
    5. Illuminati
    6. Bitch I'm Madonna (Feat. Nicki Minaj)
    7. Hold Tight
    8. Joan Of Arc
    9. Iconic (Feat. Chance The Rapper & Mike Tyson)
    10. HeartBreakCity
    11. Body Shop
    12. Holy Water
    13. Inside Out
    14. Wash All Over Me
    15. Best Night
    16. Veni Vidi Vici (Feat. Nas)
    17. S.E.X.
    18. Messiah
    19. Rebel Heart
    20. Beautiful Scars
    21. Borrowed Time
    22. Addicted
    23. Graffiti Heart
    24. Autotune Baby

    Madame X (2019)

    1. Medellín (Feat. Maluma)
    2. Dark Ballet
    3. God Control
    4. Future (Feat. Quavo)
    5. Batuka
    6. Killers Who Are Partying
    7. Crave (Feat. Swae Lee)
    8. Crazy
    9. Come Alive
    10. Extreme Occident
    11. Faz Gostoso (Feat. Anitta)
    12. Bitch I'm Loca (Feat. Maluma)
    13. I Don't Search I Find
    14. Looking For Mercy
    15. I Rise
    16. Funana
    17. Back that Up To The Beat
    18. Ciao Bella

    B-Sides, Rarities, Complilation Tracks, Etc.

    Into The Groove
    Gambler
    Crazy For You
    Spotlight
    Ain't No Big Deal
    Who's That Girl
    Causing A Commotion
    The Look Of Love
    Can't Stop
    Supernatural
    Justify My Love
    Rescue Me
    This Used To Be My Playground
    Goodbye To Innocence
    I'll Remember
    Let Down Your Guard
    I Want You (With Massive Attack)
    You'll See
    One More Chance
    You Must Love Me
    Don't Cry For Me Argentina
    Another Suitcase In Another Hall
    Buenos Aires
    Lament
    Beautiful Stranger
    Time Stood Still
    Your Honesty
    Hey You
    History
    Celebration
    Revolver
    It's So Cool
    Broken (I'm Sorry)​

    VOTES IN FOR JUNE 15TH

     
    Last edited: Apr 29, 2020
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    RJF

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    160. Spotlight - 6.694
    161. I Love New York - 6.652
    162. Messiah - 6.639
    163. Love Song - 6.621
    163. I'd Rather Be Your Lover - 6.621
    165. Supernatural - 6.615
    166. Candy Shop - 6.588
    167. Wash All Over Me - 6.561
    168. HeartBreakCity - 6.558
    169. Bitch I'm Loca (Feat. Maluma) - 6.548
    170. Your Honesty - 6.524
    171. Beautiful Scars - 6.461
    172. Something To Remember - 6.458
    173. Love Don't Live Here Anymore - 6.448
    174. Over And Over - 6.433
    175. Another Suitcase In Another Hall - 6.409
    176. Stay - 6.367
    177. Don't Stop - 6.339
    178. Girl Gone Wild - 6.324
    179. I Know It - 6.267
    180. Act Of Contrition - 6.245
    181. Fighting Spirit - 6.227
    182. I Don't Give A (Feat. Nicki Minaj) - 6.203
    183. It's So Cool - 6.191
    184. Illuminati - 6.167
    185. Funana - 6.161
    186. Dance 2Night - 6.152
    187. Borrowed Time - 6.118
    187. History - 6.118
    189. Sooner Or Later - 6.109
    189. One More Chance - 6.109
    191. Back That Up To The Beat - 6.076
    192. Let Down Your Guard - 6.036
    193. Killers Who Are Partying - 6.015
    194. I'm A Sinner - 6.012
    195. I Fucked Up - 5.964
    196 - Some Girls - 5.933
    197. He's A Man - 5.924
    198. Give Me All Your Luvin' (Feat. Nicki Minaj & M.I.A.) - 5.921
    199. Buenos Aires - 5.894
    200. Super Pop - 5.848
    201. Revolver (Feat. Lil Wayne) - 5.827
    202. Can't Stop - 5.776
    203. Ain't No Big Deal - 5.736
    204. Turn Up The Radio - 5.727
    205. Best Friend - 5.721
    206. Graffiti Heart - 5.697
    207. Hanky Panky - 5.691
    208. Love Makes The World Go Round - 5.679
    209. Back In Business - 5.67
    210. Pretender - 5.661
    211. Lament - 5.615
    212. Cyber-Raga - 5.603
    213. Incredible - 5.545
    214. Jimmy Jimmy - 5.521
    215. Now I'm Following You - 5.497
    216. Ring My Bell - 5.424
    217. S.E.X. - 5.373
    218. Spanish Lesson - 4.997
    219. Shoo-Bee-Doo - 4.948
    220. More - 4.852
    221. What Can You Lose - 4.436
    222. Superstar - 4.391
    223. Auto-Tune Baby - 4.121
    224. Cry Baby - 3.367
    225. I'm Going Bananas - 3.327
    226. B-Day Song (Feat. M.I.A.) - 3.000
    227. Hey You - 2.976
     
    Last edited: Jul 10, 2020 at 5:34 PM
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  3. RJF

    RJF

  4. BTG

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    Me trying to decide on my 11:

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  5. Oooh I might partake in this.

    Will probably give Beautiful Stranger my 11. I don't know.
     
  6. Yes God.
     
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  7. So... How High for top 5, please and thank you?
     
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  8. RJF

    RJF

    Spoiler: lol no
     
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  9. Justice for the entire Confessions album since she probably won’t perform anything from it again!
     
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  10. This is probably the rate I’ve been waiting for the most since I ever joined this forum. Reading the original rates was so much fun and so engrossing, and I went in being a very casual fan of Madonna to a full blown stan by the end of reading them.

    I did my scores ahead of time, but I still don’t know what my 11 will be.
     
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  11. Rebel Heart being almost as long as the first three albums put together nn. I cannot miss this rate tho, it's gonna be such a mess, I can't wait.
     
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  12. Madonna was the first album my mum bought and Confessions was the first album I bought

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  13. Whew let’s go. Her and Xtina were first two pop giants that I started to stan after leaving my Manson / NIN depressed teenager era and what changes it brought to my life. That was a cultural reset. I’m forever grateful for her.

    I am ready to defend American Life (the song and the album) against some of yall’s missing tastebuds!
     
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  14. Queer!
     
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  15. rdp

    rdp

    Please do justice to the greatest album of all time thanks x



     
  16. FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION:






    A legendary song. Those Oprah vocals are flawless, and something she'll probably never replicate. Those post-Evita vocals over a guitar-trance instrumental are otherworldly.
     
  17. Definitely doing this. I've only heard the early stuff once (if at all), so it's definitely long overdue.

    Though I can say with some confidence that American Life is her best album and my scores will reflect that.
     
  18. We're gonna be BUSY the next two months, girls!

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  19. Tens tens tens tens tens tens tens tens tens tens tens tens tens tens across the motherfucking board.

    I'm ready.
     
  20. 228 songs
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