Madonna

I feel a bit done with AJay after that review. I was really into watching her reviews of M's albums (and still will watch them lol), and obviously she liked ROL, but this time it really showed how little she actually knows about music and how narrow-minded her taste is. But w/e.

She's gonna HATE Erotica and it's gonna be crippling. Like I literally can't imagine her liking a single song apart from Bad Girl.
The only video i saw from this girl is her reacting to Charli XCX’s Vroom Vroom EP and that is so far off and anti-ballad and she lived her life so let’s not. Maybe she’s just not into Madonna? It’s really not that deep.
 
I don’t think PJ perspective on music is the norm though. We’re music weirdos. I wonder how many people in the Little Mix thread would be able to name Madonna songs. Maybe a bad example cause they’ve been around for about seven years.
Threads can be a bubble in this thread.
Agree 100%

My straight work colleagues (sad face) think Madonna is a joke now, and hasn't been relevant for 10 years. BUT to PJ/Madonnanation posters - where we have reviewed and discussed her every song and album, we know the deal BUT to the great unwashed - meh.
And PJers will say "the charts don't apply to her anymore" - I somewhat agree with this BUT Madama X spending 3 weeks on the Billboard Hot 200 may not be important, but it does prove how her fan-base has shrunk over the years.
 
RE the discussion of madonna’s reach, I am a 21 y/o Brit and I gotta say my contemporaries are pretty much unanimously unaware of her 90s output. Honestly before I got into Madonna 18 months ago, the only songs I knew from Madonna were the classics Holiday, Borderline, Like A Virgin, Material Girl, Papa Don’t Preach, La Isla Bonita, Express Youeself and Vogue, as well as Hung Up and 4 Minutes which were big hits in my childhood. I really don’t think people my age fully appreciate the influence she had, and the variety and quality of her musical output.
 
How old are you though, if I can ask?

I suppose it's how invested you are in music/music history also. I mean, I didn't grow up listening to Blondie but Blondie are my favourite band ever. I love a lot of Bowie but I didn't hear his music either. It was just being a music fan and wanting to hear music from these artists.

So it seems odd to me that a so-called music lover who reacts to music on YouTube, such as AJay, has 0 knowledge of Madonna [as an example] and isn't familiar with her music. Maybe she isn't as big a music-fantastic as I assumed.

Not a critique, it just surprises me when people haven't heard music by some of music's biggest icons/artists/bands etc. but everyone is different and I suppose the way we digest music and discover music is very different to when I was young!
I'm 22. Your experience with Blondie and Bowie is the same as my experience with Marvin Gaye and the Red Hot Chili Peppers, both of whom I discovered beyond a handful of classic songs a year ago. But I can name a lot of people my age who barely know the biggest songs by either of those acts (if at all) and it's not entirely surprising to me. Knowing that someone is iconic and important doesn't always guarantee interest in them, especially if they're not of your time, and I think that's the case with AJay. Her channel is based on current popular music and whatever her fans suggest she listen to. Maybe her love of music is too.
 
Yeah, I get that completely. I suppose, for me, I'm a huge lover of music/music history so I listen to everything and love educating myself on music from the past and things before my time just as much as current music. I guess that's not the same for everyone, sadly.
 
It’s basic in structure for sure. The three note verse melody and the chorus is very simple one line repeat but as always I assumed it was a comment piece on the common perception of what it is to be a girl.
Simple and pretty...but when you look closer and read the lyrics there’s so much depth, intelligence and commentary.
It plays to the songs advantage.
What It Feels Like is one of her very very best songs and yet it seems to have been abandoned.
 
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It’s basic in structure for sure. The three note verse melody and the chorus is very simple one line repeat but as always I assumed it was a comment piece on the common perception of what it is to be a girl.
Simple and pretty...but when you look closer and read the lyrics there’s so much depth, intelligence and commentary.
It plays to the songs advantage.
What It Feels Like is one of her very very best songs and yet it seems to have been abandoned.

See also: This Used to be my Playground, I'll Remember, You'll See, The Power of Goodbye, Nothing Really Matters, Beautiful Stranger, Hollywood, Love Profusion, Ghosttown.
 
My straight work colleagues (sad face) think Madonna is a joke now, and hasn't been relevant for 10 years. BUT to PJ/Madonnanation posters - where we have reviewed and discussed her every song and album, we know the deal BUT to the great unwashed - meh.
And PJers will say "the charts don't apply to her anymore" - I somewhat agree with this BUT Madama X spending 3 weeks on the Billboard Hot 200 may not be important, but it does prove how her fan-base has shrunk over the years.

Actually, 2 weeks...
1-77-out
 
Speaking of not knowing her songs, before I actually started listening to full albums I only knew LAP from LAP or only Bonita from True Blue... I only knew Lucky Star and Borderline from debut...

It always depends where you live and how you got exposed to her music. For me, I was one of those lucky ones growing up during MTV era in early 00s, and MTV used to have Madonna weekends every few weeks where they would only play her videos and interviews.

Madonna is probably the most played recurrent artist on radios here, even less known songs from 90s are actually played a lot, but people these days can't really name those songs as Madonna songs.

Having said that, few days ago couple of teenage girls were walking next to me and sang Material Girl. It took me by surprise, but I guess it was Stranger Things impact.

Her profile really decreased over the years, and her respect has, let's be real, she is seen as a joke now to the point of her not being able to fix her image among GP...

To think that only a decade ago she was able to get quick little smash without moving her finger...
 

I’ve just discovered this, and as much as I love Donna De Lory, knowing Madonna wrote this and hearing her backing vocals at 2:22 really makes my heart ache, because it’s obviously about Sean and her voice just sounds so “Like a Prayer”-esq and melancholic. I want to hear Madonna’s version!
Thoughts???
 
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