Madonna

I've also heard that her name was at least tossed out as one to play Cristal Connors in Showgirls? I mean

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“We could have got Janet Jackson or Paula Abdul…or even Madonna!”
 
The film vanished on release and is mostly forgotten today, but I loved the story about her sending a strongly-worded fax (how 90s!) to the producer of Angie after she was allegedly fired (they insisted it was she who quit the role, which Geena Davis eventually played)

On the subject of forgotten 90s films, she also pursued the lead role in Untamed Heart which went to Marisa Tomei.
 
I'm never NOT in disbelief at this world where they actually think Suzanne Somers, Paula Abdul, or Janet Jackson would ever consider doing a show like Goddess. LaToya? Maybe. Probably.
"I think this is her way of getting the attention she never got from the public...she's never really had the success that the rest of the family has had"
 

Mr.Arroz

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I've never heard David speak before, he's so charming and articulate!
Hi!

We've gotten a few reports about this post. Just for reference, calling a POC, especially Black people "articulate" or "well-spoken" has a long history of racist undertones - as if hearing them speak in such a way is unexpected or surprising. While I don't believe your intention was to convey specifically that, with the reports about it, it was important to pop in and let you know how it was received - so that in the future you're better equipped to use words differently.

Thanks!
 
Chicago was perfect for her, but when they finally did it she was too “old” to play Velma. Yeah right. I mean, even Bob Fosse wanted her when he was going to direct it in the 80s!
 
I read that there was a camera filming the Q&A at the screening where celebrities asked questions. Hope that’s true and we get to see it at some point.
 
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I did see someone (Ricardo?) filming the red carpet and I think stuff inside the premiere and afterparty, so I think maybe it'll be used as a streaming bonus? I hope so anyway.
 
Hi!

We've gotten a few reports about this post. Just for reference, calling a POC, especially Black people "articulate" or "well-spoken" has a long history of racist undertones - as if hearing them speak in such a way is unexpected or surprising. While I don't believe your intention was to convey specifically that, with the reports about it, it was important to pop in and let you know how it was received - so that in the future you're better equipped to use words differently.

Thanks!
I meant entirely in the sense that he’s articulate for his age (16) rather than anything about race. I apologise if the intention was missed, I’ve also never heard Rocco speak in public but I would use exactly the same words describing him.
 

Mr.Arroz

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I meant entirely in the sense that he’s articulate for his age (16) rather than anything about race. I apologise if the intention was missed, I’ve also never heard Rocco speak in public but I would use exactly the same words describing him.
And that's understandable. This was simply letting you know, just as my linked article explained, that those words have different receptions when used with white vs. non-white people. Perhaps in the future you can shape your comment about articulation in a way that doesn't invoke the racial implications of the past. It wasn't a personal comment, but more of a comment on the perception of your post. Cheers.
 
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