Marina And The Diminishing Returns - Love + Fear

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fancygreen

fancygreen

Chris_P said:
Then maybe those of us who don't care to see an opinion as part of the title, along with those who have actually said that they don't agree with it should go on and make thread with the proper title, how about that?
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You've been here since 2012. Do you even Popjustice?

Edit: Petition for @Jwentz to change the parenthetical comment to "(Chris Seems to Enjoy It)".
 
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Chris_P

Chris_P

fancygreen said:
You've been here since 2012. Do you even Popjustice?
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As far as the artists I know and follow are concerned, I've seen title changes that involve aspects like the process of making the album (Anti)/its release status (Beyonce)/some significant saying by or label of the artist (Janelle). This is the first time I've seen a title changed as an attempt to mockery. What's funny about it? The power play aspect of "heh, OUR opinion is in the title"? Why should any of the above matter when even a single person has complained about it and the solution is to *gasp!* change the thread title back to what it normally was?
 
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RHOPJ

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burnt said:
A poor score from Pitchfork: https://www.pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/marina-love-fear/amp/

Which one of y’all wrote this review though? It reads almost identical to a bunch of comments that have already been made here... one of us (or this reviewer has been lurking through Popjustice)?!

I absolutely agree with the criticism lodged at the overly general lyrics & lack of experimentation and risk-taking, but I do find it curious that this critic spent some time dismayed with the “musical mathematics” on the album, but then went and stated that “Baby” was the best song on the album... as if that isn’t also a very calculated song.
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I found this particularly apt:

The chorus of “Emotional Machine” consists of facile rhyming: “I’m a machine/An emotional bein’/Since I was a teen/Cut my feelings off clean.” When Marina covered similar territory on 2010’s “I Am Not a Robot,” she wrote: “Better to be hated/Than loved, loved, loved for what you’re not/You’re vulnerable, so vulnerable/You are not a robot.” This is a staggering slide, from affecting poetry to cold calculation. How to account for it?
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Sanctuary

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he/him
Ddd oh wait at Fear being actually kind of better than Love.

Love's biggest weakness is that it sounds like a bunch of Alexandra Stan demos with Marina's go-to default "how to write a piano ballad" melody on auto-pilot tossed in once or two, topped with some psychobabble nonsense about ~psYcHoloGy~. You never see Alexandra Stan saying something like "I wrote Lemonade to explore the psychological trauma one goes through when dancing through the streets of formerly Communist Romania. There were riots in Bucharest. It's also about getting back in touch with the natural world that keeps us hydrated."

Sis, just make your slightly tacky-sounding Euro-pop and go.

The sonic palette at least seems more interesting and a bit darker for Fear, so that's good and keeping me distracted from noticing if she's saying anything questionable lyrically.
 
fancygreen

fancygreen

Chris_P said:
As far as the artists I know and follow are concerned, I've seen title changes that involve aspects like the process of making the album/its release status/some significant saying by or label of the artist. This is the first time I've seen a title changed as an attempt to mockery. What's funny about it? The power play aspect of "heh, OUR opinion is in the title"? Why should any of the above matter when even a single person has complained about it and the solution is to *gasp!* change the thread title back to what it normally was?
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The hypersensitivity to this is non-issue is a bit much, innit? If this is the first time you've ever seen this title style, than you and I wear very different lenses about what this place is. The title is in line with the dry humor the site has had for an aeon.

Plus it's like, not even boldfaced ~mockery~. It's a polite joke that summarizes what many people, not just one, seem to feel about it: the songs are at best fine. It's not even anywhere near a "power play" good grief.

Sanctuary said:
You never see Alexandra Stan saying something like "I wrote Lemonade to explore the psychological trauma one goes through when dancing through the streets of formerly Communist Romania. There were riots in Bucharest. It's also about getting back in touch with the natural world that keeps us hydrated."
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OK, but this would actually be iconic. Our Minute Maid savior.
 
AngelSlayer

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burnt said:
Which one of y’all wrote this review though? It reads almost identical to a bunch of comments that have already been made here... one of us (or this reviewer has been lurking through Popjustice)?!
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It's a fact that a lot of reviewers do some “research” to help them with their review.
But it's also not that hard to see what's wrong with some of these lyrics.
 
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Conan

I'm not as opposed to "Love" as the majority seems to be, but I wasn't enamoured by it, either. "Fear" however...phew. I did not expect that. I think this might be my favourite collection of songs (it's not really an album album, or is it?) by her so far.
 
Chris_P

Chris_P

fancygreen said:
The hypersensitivity to this is non-issue is a bit much, innit? If this is the first time you've ever seen this title style, than you and I wear very different lenses about what this place is. The title is in line with the dry humor the site has had for an aeon.

Plus it's like, not even boldfaced ~mockery~. It's a polite joke that summarizes what many people, not just one, seem to feel about it: the songs are at best fine. It's not even anywhere near a "power play" good grief.
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I am not bothered by the title change itself. I don't get it, which is why I went into it a bit more, but that's fine. Saying that these songs are okay is a compliment for the most part, anyway.
I am bothered by the fact that people who have voiced their disagreement have been dismissed because "it's not that big a deal" (why would we decide that for them?), when neither is changing the title back and everybody would be happier that way.
 
Subspace

Subspace

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Harmonia said:
The Selena Gomez thread has had "(Assorted Okay Songs)" in the title for literal months but somehow it's a problem when it's Marina?
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I was literally about to muse why it was okay for Selena to have the exact same addition (Assorted Okay Songs) in her thread name for months (and it's been on and off the main page so it's been hard to miss!) but Marina produces what can genuinely be described as assorted okay songs and suddenly it's a problem.
 
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