Music Unavailable on Digital (and Getting It There!)

One gripe - three or four of the songs are upscaled LQ mp3s, is it worth mentioning that to her?

It's possible that that's the only source material available to them, or that they can find after 20+ years... some hastily burned CDRs. Remember when Little Boots gave everyone bonus content for the Hands vinyl kickstarter that was just the files that had leaked online. Same file dates and metadata and everything.
 
It's possible that that's the only source material available to them, or that they can find after 20+ years... some hastily burned CDRs. Remember when Little Boots gave everyone bonus content for the Hands vinyl kickstarter that was just the files that had leaked online. Same file dates and metadata and everything.

That would be a shame. How are these people NOT keeping their master files? You had one job, etc.. :shakes fist at sky:

That said, I actually had a go at Little Boots on her Patreon years ago about releasing bonus songs in 128kbps and she apologised and started sending out WAVs. Karening works.
 
That would be a shame. How are these people NOT keeping their master files? You had one job, etc.. :shakes fist at sky:

Computer crashes, lost drives, ownership issues, or just not knowing who has the actual master file, especially if the label closed and publishers changed. Corporate acquisitions might not have included the computers or hardware some of that music solely existed on.

Also, 20-25 years ago there was a number of competing early audio editing programmes and there's the possibility that files just don't open because the original programme doesn't exist or update any more or the files corrupted, or the CDRs rotted. Nowadays people would have their ProTools sessions saved on the cloud and in multiple backups. The recent Dannii Minogue super deluxe edition has a few of the remixes sourced from vinyl, which seems utterly bizarre to be doing for major label music produced in 2003, but there you have it.

Even myself, as much as I was very much archiving stuff as a fan from 2002 onwards, I have very little from pre-2007 thanks to various data losses and missing discs or folders. I've lost every digital photo from prior to 2012 I had that wasn't already on socials.
 

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It's possible that that's the only source material available to them, or that they can find after 20+ years... some hastily burned CDRs. Remember when Little Boots gave everyone bonus content for the Hands vinyl kickstarter that was just the files that had leaked online. Same file dates and metadata and everything.
That would be a shame. How are these people NOT keeping their master files? You had one job, etc.. :shakes fist at sky:

That said, I actually had a go at Little Boots on her Patreon years ago about releasing bonus songs in 128kbps and she apologised and started sending out WAVs. Karening works.
Scream. Obsessed with this.

Vicky just chucking out her leaked files was kinda funny at the time.
 
Computer crashes, lost drives, ownership issues, or just not knowing who has the actual master file, especially if the label closed and publishers changed. Corporate acquisitions might not have included the computers or hardware some of that music solely existed on.

Also, 20-25 years ago there was a number of competing early audio editing programmes and there's the possibility that files just don't open because the original programme doesn't exist or update any more or the files corrupted, or the CDRs rotted. Nowadays people would have their ProTools sessions saved on the cloud and in multiple backups. The recent Dannii Minogue super deluxe edition has a few of the remixes sourced from vinyl, which seems utterly bizarre to be doing for major label music produced in 2003, but there you have it.

Even myself, as much as I was very much archiving stuff as a fan from 2002 onwards, I have very little from pre-2007 thanks to various data losses and missing discs or folders. I've lost every digital photo from prior to 2012 I had that wasn't already on socials.
Indeed. Stuff can get lost quite easy. Even remixers don’t have digital copies of all their remixes to hand. Some stuff is on DATs which have corroded over time.

Things probably not helped by the amount of remixes that were on CDrs in a clear plastic wallet with paper insert that had no catalogue number which never made a commercial release because of the 20 minute ruling.

A load of other remixes lost to time when a dance track would be licenced by the likes of MoS/ Positiva have local remixes done but said mixes would never be sent on to the original rightsholder who 20 years later owns rights to those mixes.
 
With Busted doing so well with their tour and GH, I went to listen to one of my favourite singles from them on Spotify 'Sleeping With The Light On' and was quite surprised to only find the album version there (as well as the newly recorded one). The superior version, in my eyes, has always been the "New Version" that was on their single (also the one in the music video) but quite surprised it isn't available on streaming.

My friend who is actually a big fan of theirs couldn't understand what I meant when I tried to tell them that there is a version that has more "oomph"
 
With Busted doing so well with their tour and GH, I went to listen to one of my favourite singles from them on Spotify 'Sleeping With The Light On' and was quite surprised to only find the album version there (as well as the newly recorded one). The superior version, in my eyes, has always been the "New Version" that was on their single (also the one in the music video) but quite surprised it isn't available on streaming.

My friend who is actually a big fan of theirs couldn't understand what I meant when I tried to tell them that there is a version that has more "oomph"
This must have disappeared recently because my 2003 Singles playlist was definitely the single mix, which was on a 2016 Top of the Pops compilation. Just tested the playlist there and it's playing the file from the album.
 
Does anyone know if Blue Raincoat Music who now own the Chrysalis Records backcat are receptive to making old singles/b-sides available or do they think backcatologue is just repressing albums? I'm wondering what the liklihood is of getting three single EPs (one a cancelled single) from a 90s flop band online - I'm happy to provide hi-res scans of the artwork.
 
Does anyone know if Blue Raincoat Music who now own the Chrysalis Records backcat are receptive to making old singles/b-sides available or do they think backcatologue is just repressing albums? I'm wondering what the liklihood is of getting three single EPs (one a cancelled single) from a 90s flop band online - I'm happy to provide hi-res scans of the artwork.
Probs up for it. They have put some Juliet Roberts singles up
 
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