Orange is the New Black (Netflix)

I also didn't struggle with Poussey buying into the Norma hype because I felt like she remained grounded against the hype (i.e. not worshipping the toast) and was really only there because of the comfort it brought her. It felt believable to me given how bitter, jaded and lost she became following all the Vee drama. Now, if she'd spent the season trying to catch a hooch-pinching squirrel, that would have been a stretch too far.

Exactly, and there were quite a few instances of her questioning the cult's actions too.
 
Oh and I forgot how much I hate Healy. I know he's meant to be unlikable, but it's a Larry situation all over again where a character is unlikable to the point of ruining chunks of the show.

Ugh, and I feel like the writers spent half their time this season trying to get us to like him.
 
Chang's flashback would have been so much more worthwhile if they had connected the dots a bit more. Like...I was watching and thinking, OK, where are they going with this? She was ugly, downtrodden, got involved with this guy...aight...and how is she now in America and in prison? Most flashbacks seem to connect the past and present, somehow (ie Flaca, Norma) or give very strong indicators (ie Boo's violence).
 
I thought Chang was already in America during her flashbacks, she mentioned not wanting to go back to China and her family seemed to want to engineer a kind of mail-order bride type of situation for her, but none of the men seemed interested.

Not quite sure how Chang ended up in jail, but she did have the guy who rejected her beat up and then had his gal bladder removed...maybe that played a part in her eventual arrest. There was definitely something illegal going on with her brother's business, too, since they needed Chang to carry something because of her relative invisibility, but I can't remember specifics.
 
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Her brother brought her over from her village in China so a 'matchmaker' could sell her as a bride (getting Chang into America and making the brother some money). When that fell through she was working at his Chinese medicine shop in New York where he was importing illegal eggs and stuff said to be some kind of Chinese medicinal 'Viagra'.

Where y'alls subtitles broken?
 
I must also be in minority, but I thought it was as good as the previous seasons.

I've spent the last two years unsuccessfully trying to fit Piper into the main protagonist role, so I'm glad they've decided to give in to her being an absolute whack job and roll with it. I hope they don't throw her and Alex back together by episode two of season 4.

I actually teared up during the lake scene, it was a perfect resolution to a season which was about faith.
 
Her brother brought her over from her village in China so a 'matchmaker' could sell her as a bride (getting Chang into America and making the brother some money). When that fell through she was working at his Chinese medicine shop in New York where he was importing illegal eggs and stuff said to be some kind of Chinese medicinal 'Viagra'.

Where y'alls subtitles broken?

No need to be rude. I didn't realize she was in America during all of that, but fair enough.

There seems to be a big jump from demanding the guy's gall bladder be removed, in her 20s, and being a prisoner in low security, in her 60s+.
 
No dragging intended *no smilie inserted*

Quite a few of them seem lucky to be in Minimum security if their flashback episodes are why they were sentenced.
Pensatucky's has sort of been explained with her having Crazy Christian pennies on her side. For the rest I just suspend belief, a system which has been pushed this series.
 
To be honest, the slower pace of this series has definitely not been the problem that a lot of doom mongers made it out to me. I'm up to Episode 8, and there's still no main storyline or particularly compelling plot crystalising, but the show is still immensely enjoyable.

Although I have to say, the format of the show - being a Netlix original - is largely what allows them to conduct themselves at such a languid pace. Maybe it's just me, but the laborious commitment of tuning in week after week for a network or cable show, means that a show does have to conduct itself at a speed which demands you tune into the next week to see the next development. Otherwise, people will either get bored, or allow a backlog of episodes to build up and just catch-up on months later. Because Orange hasn't got the pressure of pleasing advertisers with weekly ratings, they literally have no incentives to encourage break-neck speed storytelling. They are clearly more interested in favourable reviews and word-of-month.
 
Sorry for the double post, but I finished the season, and honestly, I was really pleased with it. They really succeeded in making every single character immensely likeable in their own ways, and you really were rooting for each and every one of them (except maybe Alex, who I grew pretty tired of). That final scene in the lake was so jubilant simply because seeing each and every one of the looking happy, made you feel happy.

I think the slower pace in the earlier episodes was noticeable, but it thankfully never felt too sluggish. To be honest, it felt like a good antidote to the Vee drama of Season 2, who at times felt very much like a Desperate Housewives villain, which led the show in a soap opera direction which didn't feel very sustainable or that believable. In fact, on that note, the only real weakness in the season for me was the Norma cult, which just felt so ridiculous and so unbelievable that I couldn't help but roll my eyes at times.

I'm glad I drip-fed this to myself over a month rather than burning through it in a day like most people. To be honest, I can understand why people called it 'boring', if they sat down for a 13 hour marathon and there wasn't necessarily the cliff-hangers and over-the-top plot development of the last season to drive it.
 
Finally got around to starting this day before yesterday. I adore Morello - why does she not seem to have a fanbase like Poussey, Taystee, and even Alex?!
 
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