Oscar Bait 2021 - 22

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Seeing as Flee has noms in international feature and documentary too, I wouldn’t be surprised at it winning animated.
Is this the first time a film has been nominated in three different “Best Picture/Feature” categories?
 
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There’s a randomness to these nominations that I love; I think the expanded membership is pushing their way through, and it makes the Academy go their own way instead of being a pre-determined final coronation.

Yeah, I like the way the Academy is going. It also feels like a bit of a slap in the face at the countless Twitter pundits who love thinking they know exactly how it’s gonna turn out - the amount of ‘Penelope is not going to happen’ tweets I’ve seen in the last few days must be eating their words right now. It entirely invalidates the likes of GoldDerby as well - Judi and Jessie were something like 11 and 12 on their list!

As for the win - who the fuck knows! The refreshed academy clearly doesn’t give a fuck about precursors, so I genuinely think any of our actresses could get it. And that’s so exciting! I feel more positive about Dunst than I have in a while. They clearly loved the film, so I feel her path is clear to take it home.
 
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Is this the first time a film has been nominated in three different “Best Picture/Feature” categories?
As far as I’m aware, yes. If you’re counting best picture, animated feature, international feature and documentary feature.

There’s never been a documentary nominated for best picture. Beauty and the Beast, Up and Toy Story 4 are the only animated best pictures, animated feature didn’t exist for Beauty and the Beast but obvs the other two in the English language.

I think this is the first animated documentary nom. Honeyland and Collective got noms in documentary and international, but I don’t think it’s ever been three of those categories.
 
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God imagine not submitting Bruno out of all the songs on Encanto?

I mean, if we didn't already trust Disney's taste
 
Kristen Stewart IN and Gaga OUT? Love to see it!

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Fff I don’t really follow Oscar campaigns closely, just watch the movies and then try blindly guess on the night so this is a genuine question - could Gaga’s campaign actually worked against her here? She was hustling and seemed like a dead cert even as a fringe observer, but it’s hard to deny her personality and somewhat pretentiousness in interviews seemed to overtake talk of her actual portrayal. Was she basically too unbearable for the Academy to take her seriously?
 
Fff I don’t really follow Oscar campaigns closely, just watch the movies and then try blindly guess on the night so this is a genuine question - could Gaga’s campaign actually worked against her here? She was hustling and seemed like a dead cert even as a fringe observer, but it’s hard to deny her personality and somewhat pretentiousness in interviews seemed to overtake talk of her actual portrayal. Was she basically too unbearable for the Academy to take her seriously?

I'm sure thats a possibility. Her fans love how over the top she is and call it camp, but for others she can be a giant eye roll.

More likely though: The actors branch of the academy votes for actors. Penelope Cruz is well respected, well known amongst her peers, and has worked with many of the voters. Kristen Stewart has worked up a respected resume in recent years and has worked with many voters since she was 11. Nicole Kidman I don't even need to explain. I think this year what might've edged Gaga out the most was just that her main competition were women who have belonged to a specific club longer than she has.
 

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Isn't there an argument to be made that the Academy likes being pandered to? It's not like a massive campaign ever hurt anyone's chances. Gaga might have taken it a little too far, but I think the main problem was just House of Gucci being a weak movie.
House of Gucci is much better than Being the Ricardos, but I think we’re in a Nicole Kidman overdue a second Oscar moment of whatever
 
I think the academy tends to recognize big camp performances in supporting roles rather than lead. I'm thinking of Dorothy Malone winning for her brilliant unhinged performance in Written On The Wind or Diane Ladd's nomination for Wild At Heart among many others.
 
I don’t necessarily mind Gaga’s performance missing out (it was…fine) but I do feel like we’ll miss how much of a MOVIE STAR she has been all season. It was just a lot of fun and most things aren’t fun these days. There’s something old-fashioned and very glamorous about her as a movie star, it’s about as close to Old Hollywood as we get these days. Can the likes of Olivia Colman and Frances McDormand act rings around her? Absolutely yes. But Gaga gives a bit of sparkle that the others just don’t.
 
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