Yes. Hehehe...
Pet Shop Boys Rate. Part 1: 1985-1991. Winner.
- Thread starter Ray
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Oh, I generally don't give a fuck about such trivial things like that, but Yes was apparently so important to someone that it was included to be amongst what someone considers their 1001 most important albums.
NO ... because that’s another rate ... Let’s keep things 1985-1991 ...
Dreadful, makeweight and Pet Shop Boys: Generic, respectively.
They/them, he/him
We can still talk about things outside of those tracks though, unless free speech has been rescinded?
They/them, he/him
Do you actively try to make people hate you?
There’s another thread for that ... http://forum.popjustice.com/threads/pet-shop-boys-generally.11928/
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Sorry. I didn’t realise you were a moderator now.
Fair enough ... feel free to run all over other folks (Ray’s) effort ...
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Until @Ray says otherwise- and I doubt he will- we should be able to talk about our favourite band, regardless of the era.
Anyway, moving on...
Did You See Me Coming? Is Was It Worth It? for the 21st century- of course I’m going to stan for it! And of course everyone else will hate it ha ha.
Every elimination from here on out is going to hurt, unless it’s Left To My Own Devices and Being Boring, that is.
Anyway, moving on...
Did You See Me Coming? Is Was It Worth It? for the 21st century- of course I’m going to stan for it! And of course everyone else will hate it ha ha.
Every elimination from here on out is going to hurt, unless it’s Left To My Own Devices and Being Boring, that is.
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No. I never understood why people like a song that's literally 15 seconds looped for 20 minutes or however long it is.
I am ALMOST sure they did this deliberately. Nah, scratch that. They totally did it deliberately.
Can we agree that I will decide whether this upsets me? (For the record, it doesn't, as long as it's about music, which cheesecake questions aren't.)
But "Did You See Me Coming?" is so damn flat, and "Was It Worth It?" is explosion of glitter. I fail to see what they have in common.
This would be important if top 10 did not consist of eight rock bands, Kate Bush and Björk (and that's me being generous and assuming there's more than one woman). But yeah, were I to pick PSB's most important albums Yes wouldn't make the list. "Important" is a wrong word here. It's slick, it's got some nice tunes, it's got some songs that really don't need to exist ("Coming?" and "Beautiful People", for instance, not to mention "Building A Wall" which has a dubious honour of me not remembering it at all other than it's very skippable). It's also very, very unimportant. A Xenomania pop album done right: Words And Music By Saint Etienne.
Coming soon: #30, recap and #29 (and possibly more). It would have been rounder to just do #30 and recap, but I'm not going to be that lazy. (Although in real life I totally am that lazy.)
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31.
sounds rough and unfinished, and surprisingly harsh
was almost my 11
31. It Must Be Obvious
7.6833333333
B-side to "So Hard"
Highest score: 10 (@RaggedTiger, @Jóga, @Sweet Music, @Bleu Noir, @chris4862)
Lowest score: 2.5 (@Peer_Gynt10)
Neil: This is a hilarious song. It started off as a joke about whatever must be obvious and I came up with the couplet: "Everyone knows when they look at us/of course they do, it must be obvious". Which I thought was hilarious. Then, having written those lines, it turned into another unrequited love song, about being in love with someone and everyone knowing apart from the person you're in love with. I've always liked the lyrics because it mentions The Sound Of Music [...] there's also a Noel Coward reference.
Chris: It's quite interesting, the backing track.
Neil: It was written in Glasgow, hence the guitar. Great snare fills – that's what makes the track. It also rather horrifyingly features my first ever guitar solo.
Jon Savage: You're not allowed to rock, are you?
Neil: No, we're officially not allowed to rock.
Chris: It's very funny quantisation. Everything is quantised to triplets.
Neil: It was the b-side of "So Hard". Jill Carrington played it to someone from another record company, who said "You might get a lot of people saying that the b-side is better than the a-side". At the time, Chris wouldn't have it on the album.
Ray: It only occurred to me now that the b-sides of Behaviour singles are perhaps a tad gay.
Mud pit is ready, so is my camera:
@Jóga: Could be an album track and it wouldn't be out of place at all regarding quality.
@DominoDancing: While I like this song, it really sounds rough and unfinished, and surprisingly harsh considering it's from the Behaviour era.
Another good pairing:
@One Stop Candy Shop: Nothing to say besides that it's nice enough.
@Mikey1701: One of the best songs to come from the Behaviour era. I can think of half a dozen songs from that album that could have been replaced by this- even if it does sound sonically similar in places to So Hard (which is probably why it is its bonus track). Oh well, at least we have another track to file under “amazing PSB B-Side”
And the other comments:
@Bleu Noir: was almost my 11. More unrequited heartache from Neil.
@Sally_Harper: The lyrics are better than the music.
@TrendyMüller: I like this quite a lot. I would like it even more, if the drum fills wouldn´t sound like they were played by hand on the drum computer.
The KLF vs Pet Shop Boys: 12" UFO mix (which is a bit odd):
sounds rough and unfinished, and surprisingly harsh
was almost my 11
31. It Must Be Obvious
7.6833333333
B-side to "So Hard"
Highest score: 10 (@RaggedTiger, @Jóga, @Sweet Music, @Bleu Noir, @chris4862)
Lowest score: 2.5 (@Peer_Gynt10)
Neil: This is a hilarious song. It started off as a joke about whatever must be obvious and I came up with the couplet: "Everyone knows when they look at us/of course they do, it must be obvious". Which I thought was hilarious. Then, having written those lines, it turned into another unrequited love song, about being in love with someone and everyone knowing apart from the person you're in love with. I've always liked the lyrics because it mentions The Sound Of Music [...] there's also a Noel Coward reference.
Chris: It's quite interesting, the backing track.
Neil: It was written in Glasgow, hence the guitar. Great snare fills – that's what makes the track. It also rather horrifyingly features my first ever guitar solo.
Jon Savage: You're not allowed to rock, are you?
Neil: No, we're officially not allowed to rock.
Chris: It's very funny quantisation. Everything is quantised to triplets.
Neil: It was the b-side of "So Hard". Jill Carrington played it to someone from another record company, who said "You might get a lot of people saying that the b-side is better than the a-side". At the time, Chris wouldn't have it on the album.
Ray: It only occurred to me now that the b-sides of Behaviour singles are perhaps a tad gay.
Mud pit is ready, so is my camera:
@Jóga: Could be an album track and it wouldn't be out of place at all regarding quality.
@DominoDancing: While I like this song, it really sounds rough and unfinished, and surprisingly harsh considering it's from the Behaviour era.
Another good pairing:
@One Stop Candy Shop: Nothing to say besides that it's nice enough.
@Mikey1701: One of the best songs to come from the Behaviour era. I can think of half a dozen songs from that album that could have been replaced by this- even if it does sound sonically similar in places to So Hard (which is probably why it is its bonus track). Oh well, at least we have another track to file under “amazing PSB B-Side”
And the other comments:
@Bleu Noir: was almost my 11. More unrequited heartache from Neil.
@Sally_Harper: The lyrics are better than the music.
@TrendyMüller: I like this quite a lot. I would like it even more, if the drum fills wouldn´t sound like they were played by hand on the drum computer.
The KLF vs Pet Shop Boys: 12" UFO mix (which is a bit odd):
Top 30:
Two Divided by Zero
West End Girls
Opportunities (Let's Make Lots of Money)
Love Comes Quickly
Suburbia
Tonight Is Forever
Violence
I Want a Lover
Later Tonight
Why Don't We Live Together?
One More Chance
What Have I Done To Deserve This? (with Dusty Springfield)
Shopping
Rent
Hit Music
It Couldn't Happen Here
It's A Sin
I Want To Wake Up
Heart
King's Cross
Left To My Own Devices
Domino Dancing
I'm Not Scared
Always On My Mind/In My House
It's Alright
Being Boring
This Must Be The Place I Waited Years To Leave
To Face The Truth
How Can You Expect To Be Taken Seriously?
Only The Wind
My October Symphony
So Hard
Nervously
The End Of The World
Jealousy
Always On My Mind
Where The Streets Have No Name (I Can't Take My Eyes Off You)
DJ Culture
Was It Worth It?
In The Night
A Man Could Get Arrested
That's My Impression
Was That What It Was?
Paninaro
Jack The Lad
You Know Where You Went Wrong
A New Life
I Want A Dog
Do I Have To?
I Get Excited (You Get Excited Too)
Don Juan
The Sound Of The Atom Splitting
One Of The Crowd
Your Funny Uncle
It Must Be Obvious
We All Feel Better In The Dark
Bet She's Not Your Girlfriend
Losing My Mind
Music For Boys
Miserablism
Interesting how 1) all three singles that left so far were non-album ones, and 2) how much you obviously despise Alternative. Oh, and look at my beloved Introspective. Maybe all of it is in top 10? MAYBE??????!!
Two Divided by Zero
West End Girls
Opportunities (Let's Make Lots of Money)
Love Comes Quickly
Suburbia
Tonight Is Forever
Violence
I Want a Lover
Later Tonight
Why Don't We Live Together?
One More Chance
What Have I Done To Deserve This? (with Dusty Springfield)
Shopping
Rent
Hit Music
It Couldn't Happen Here
It's A Sin
I Want To Wake Up
Heart
King's Cross
Left To My Own Devices
Domino Dancing
I'm Not Scared
Always On My Mind/In My House
It's Alright
Being Boring
This Must Be The Place I Waited Years To Leave
To Face The Truth
How Can You Expect To Be Taken Seriously?
Only The Wind
My October Symphony
So Hard
Nervously
The End Of The World
Jealousy
Always On My Mind
Where The Streets Have No Name (I Can't Take My Eyes Off You)
DJ Culture
Was It Worth It?
In The Night
A Man Could Get Arrested
That's My Impression
Was That What It Was?
Paninaro
Jack The Lad
You Know Where You Went Wrong
A New Life
I Want A Dog
Do I Have To?
I Get Excited (You Get Excited Too)
Don Juan
The Sound Of The Atom Splitting
One Of The Crowd
Your Funny Uncle
It Must Be Obvious
We All Feel Better In The Dark
Bet She's Not Your Girlfriend
Losing My Mind
Music For Boys
Miserablism
Interesting how 1) all three singles that left so far were non-album ones, and 2) how much you obviously despise Alternative. Oh, and look at my beloved Introspective. Maybe all of it is in top 10? MAYBE??????!!
Well, it hasn't left within the first THIRTY so you all obviously adore it...
It must be obvious is a great song with an amazing backing track and even better lyrics ... I scored it a 7 because if it had been given a little extra care and attention it could have been epic ... That dark pulsating bassline is crying out to be used to greater effect ... An extended mix you could actually listen to would be a dream come true ... (The only good thing about the KLF remixes is the packaging) …
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Were The KLF taking the piss out of The Orb with that mix? (I know they were basically the same members at one point), but this is just a big outstretched middle-finger. The So Hard mix is also a real cheap stinker.
It's done chronologically, and yes, while it's very male-dominated, there is way more female presence than Kate Bush and Björk. That's what I remember from seeing the list once. Anyway, I didn't realize my mention of a stupid list like this would make people pressed. I guess it's part of my nature for me to see something on a list and think that it must be worth something. Hence, I thought Very must be worth something. Sorry. And I'm moving on.