Pet Shop Boys Rate. Part 1: 1985-1991. Winner.

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I’m all for personal taste and folks liking what they like ... but there has to be something in almost any PSB song to be positive about ...

To be a fan enough to bother to rate all these tracks and then decide ‘that’s a zero’ just doesn’t make sense to me ...

The Sound Of The Atom Splitting has absolutely no redeeming features. And neither does What Keeps Mankind Alive.
 
I am you. If I find nothing to like in a song, a zero it is
I thought you hated me for my Frappscores!

there has to be something in almost any PSB song to be positive about ...
Spoiler: "Winner", "The Party Song", "Screaming", "Pazzo!", "The Night I Fell In Love" and "In Private" (NOT the Dame Dusty version) are getting zeroes from me. There is nothing to those songs I can be positive about, except it's amusing how horrifyingly they managed to ruin "In Private". Maybe they have great snare drums, but I am not going to give them points based on that.
 
They/them, he/him
Spoiler: "Winner", "The Party Song", "Screaming", "Pazzo!", "The Night I Fell In Love" and "In Private" (NOT the Dame Dusty version) are getting zeroes from me. There is nothing to those songs I can be positive about, except it's amusing how horrifyingly they managed to ruin "In Private". Maybe they have great snare drums, but I am not going to give them points based on that.

Pazzo! and Winner aren’t 0s in my book- they each have something going for them, even if it’s a meagre something Pazzo! is probably a 4 and Winner is probably a 6. Maybe a 7.
 
The Sound Of The Atom Splitting has absolutely no redeeming features. And neither does What Keeps Mankind Alive.
That sounds rather absolute and there definitely are redeeming features in both songs (I admit that I do struggle to hear them in ...Mankind...). But saying a Brecht/Weill song has no redemming features is a bit like saying that Hitchcock made boring movies.

And The Night I Fell In Love has one line that totally turns the song on its head and makes it great
 
Before is a hell of a lot worse than Se Vida A. I’m just saying.......
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Musically Rent always reminded my of a Soft Cell song. The rhythm/drum pattern is very reminiscent of Facility Girls and the muted trumpet at the end is also totally Soft Cell-y. And let´s not forget the song´s theme, which could be straight out of the Marc Almond sketch-book (minus the drama and the humour).

Funnily enough Dave Ball and Chris Lowe were both born in Blackpool in 1959...there must be something in the water for stoic synth-maestroes who disappear behind their machines and a more (or less) flamboyant singer.
There is a whole essay waiting to be written about the significance and synchronicity of Soft Cells demise and the beginnings of PSB that both happened in 1984.

You stole my line! But yes, absolutely this. The first time I played the album in Sep 1987, I thought, oooh this is VERY much a Soft Cell kind of thing...although Neil's earlier vocals (ie the first two albums) tended to bring Marc Almond to mind quite often. It's everything you mentioned...the lyrics, the ambience, the arrangement...etc etc....
 
I never knew there was a Bobby O demo of Rent!

Just out of interest how many Pet Shop Boys/Bobby O demos are out there? My iTunes tells me I only have West End Girls and One More Chance. I am a sucker for his scuzzy rough around the edges HiNRG tracks.
 
I never knew there was a Bobby O demo of Rent!

Just out of interest how many Pet Shop Boys/Bobby O demos are out there? My iTunes tells me I only have West End Girls and One More Chance. I am a sucker for his scuzzy rough around the edges HiNRG tracks.
I can´t answer that, but I just heard the Rent demo for the first tine and it´s...not very good.
It sounds even more like a Soft Cell track, ca. Mutant Moments EP (1980) and those were actually better.
 
Just out of interest how many Pet Shop Boys/Bobby O demos are out there? My iTunes tells me I only have West End Girls and One More Chance. I am a sucker for his scuzzy rough around the edges HiNRG tracks.

Code:
Pet Shop Boys: 1982 demos
  [1982] demos

      3:08    Bubadubadubadum ["All My Wasted Time"]
      4:15    Dead Of Night
      3:23    Oh Dear ["Walking Down The High Street"]

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Pet Shop Boys: undated early-80s demos
  [198?] demos

    CS: 198? UK (no label; no cat #)
      4:50    Opportunities (Let's Make Lots Of Money)
      4:23    I Get Excited You Get Excited Too
      3:48    Two Divided By Zero
      3:40    Rent
      5:08    It's A Sin
      4:58    In The Club Or In The Queue
      6:32    I Want A Lover
      2:45    Later Tonight
 
Code:
Pet Shop Boys: 1982 demos
  [1982] demos

      3:08    Bubadubadubadum ["All My Wasted Time"]
      4:15    Dead Of Night
      3:23    Oh Dear ["Walking Down The High Street"]

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pet Shop Boys: undated early-80s demos
  [198?] demos

    CS: 198? UK (no label; no cat #)
      4:50    Opportunities (Let's Make Lots Of Money)
      4:23    I Get Excited You Get Excited Too
      3:48    Two Divided By Zero
      3:40    Rent
      5:08    It's A Sin
      4:58    In The Club Or In The Queue
      6:32    I Want A Lover
      2:45    Later Tonight
I had no idea there were so many! I assume Bobby O has released these many times over to milk them for all they are worth? That would make an amazing EP.
 

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