Pink: The Discography Rate ∞ WINNER!

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19. Trouble
Average score: 8.66
Highest score: 10x14
@Sanctuary @soratami @Verandi @P'NutButter @kal @rick
@abael @tylerc904 @Hurricane Drunk @Laurence @Sideout @Remorque
@happiestgirl @Music Is Life
Lowest score: 2 @JMRGBY88
My score: 9.5

No attorneys to plead my case
No opiates to send me into outer space
And my fingers are bejeweled
With diamonds and gold
But that ain't gonna help me now

And so we kiss goodbye to her misaligned third album, Try This, by kicking out the Grammy winning lead single right after its follow up. Peaking at a measly #68 in the US, it marked a commercially worrying time for her despite it going on to win the Grammy for Best Female Rock Vocal Performance - an award that would become defunct right after that.

'Trouble' managing to claw its way up to here despite its relative simplicity is, to me, an enormous success. It never tries to be anything more than it is: a total personality-packed racket. From start to finish, she delivers one of the strongest distilled pop-rock songs of the time (keeping in mind this was the time of Avril Lavigne's much similar I-AM-PUNK campaign).

Apparently taken from Tim Armstrong and his band, Rancid, this was apparently passed on to her when it didn't make the cut for their album. He would go on to recreate this in 2012 (and it's so awful I'll just link it HERE) Honestly if you're not a big fan of this, give this a listen and... see what she turned out.

Speaking to MTV in 2003, he had this to say about her:


"All I know is that if people are gonna give me sh-- for working with the best woman vocalist in the world right now, then let them give me sh--," he said defiantly. "Pink is the sh--, and working with her has been all positive."

I do think P!nk doesn't get the credit she deserves for having consistently switched things up in her career to keep things excited. Despite the album being, admittedly, an admirably quickly made affair - this was a total revolution compared to the previous album; perhaps not characteristically, because P!nk has always put her personality at the forefront, but instead introducing this charismatic appeal to the masses. Before this we'd been shown both R&B P!nk and diary-entry P!nk, this would go on to inform the rest of her career in opening up that tongue-in-cheek rocker that isn't afraid to say what she wants to say... and raise a little hell while doing it.



Commentary corner:

@Verandi: (10) Imagine not loving this song. Imagine not screaming the words of this banger in your car. Imagine being proud to tank this song while your fave song is Beautiful Cause You Love Me. Imagine.

@P'NutButter: (10) Everything about this song is brilliant, the style, the humour, the video.

@rick: (10) 10/10. Impossible not to shout along

@Laurence: (10) Great track! I like this one a lot.

@tylerc904: (10) My personal runner-up. It came so close to snagging my 11 but ultimately one other song outranked it. I absolutely adore this. It’s 3 minutes of pure carefree fun.

@abael: (10) Describing Trouble as a return to form for Pink doesn't do it justice. This is waking up well rested after being pronounced dead 3 hours ago

@Music Is Life:(10) I used to just enjoy this, but not love it cause the chorus annoyed me a little. Now I see it as the absolute pop-punk JAM that it is! The melody on the verses is great, and the production rocks so hard, but still has just the little bit of pop that it needs. And when that part at 2:25 comes in with basically just her voice and drums, it’s a fucking moment. I can’t believe this wasn’t a HUGE hit everywhere. I love this.

@sapnu puas: (9) a deserved Grammy- I could not believe it! A bit too much guitar for the gays I guess?

@Maki: (9) The lead single (at least I consider it a lead single) which sums up most of the album; raspy voice, and rock, rebellious and angry tunes. That means it’s a perfect choice for a lead single, and it even won a Grammy?! Very catchy song and I love the middle-8, in all of its sparkling production. The song could’ve been twice as short or twice as long, but it still works.

@R27: (7.5) She does more telling than showing her, but who really cares when the track is this much fun?

@Reboot: (6) Catchy but basic. It’s kind of devoid of her personality.

@The Hot Rock: (5) Feels like the most ~conventional P!nk song on Try This. It's okay but not one of the best on here.

@savilizabeths: (4) “I don’t really like this that much? Am I alone in that? I really just don’t care for that chorus. It starts to annoy me pretty quick. Didn’t she win a Grammy for this? THIS? A choice, I guess.”

@JMRGBY88: (2) I’m sorry but I hate this song.

 
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Try This
7.15


Eliminations

140. Hooker
137. Free
122. Delirium
110. Unwind
108. Tonight's the Night
77. Try Too Hard
74. Waiting for Love
66. Love Song
64. Walk Away
58. Catch Me While I'm Sleeping
54. Save My Life
52. Oh My God
48. Humble Neighborhoods
34. Feel Good Time
32. Last to Know
20. God is a DJ
19. Trouble


Highest averages

@Music Is Life 9.38
@P'NutButter 8.55
@Maki 8.41
@Lost Boy 8.31
@Remorque 8.24

Lowest averages

@happiestgirl 5.06
@JMRGBY88 5.26
@Daniel_O 5.32
@HollyDunnSomething 6.00
@Hurricane Drunk 6.18

 
So either Try This, Hurts, or Can't Take Me Home.
None of those songs should be leaving, but I know it's Happy and I hate all of you.
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19. Trouble
Average score: 8.66
Highest score: 10x14
@Sanctuary @soratami @Verandi @P'NutButter @kal @rick
@abael @tylerc904 @Hurricane Drunk @Laurence @Sideout @Remorque
@happiestgirl @Music Is Life
Lowest score: 2 @JMRGBY88
My score: 9.5

No attorneys to plead my case
No opiates to send me into outer space
And my fingers are bejeweled
With diamonds and gold
But that ain't gonna help me now

And so we kiss goodbye to her misaligned third album, Try This, by kicking out the Grammy winning lead single right after its follow up. Peaking at a measly #68 in the US, it marked a commercially worrying time for her despite it going on to win the Grammy for Best Female Rock Vocal Performance - an award that would become defunct right after that.

'Trouble' managing to claw its way up to here despite its relative simplicity is, to me, an enormous success. It never tries to be anything more than it is: a total personality-packed racket. From start to finish, she delivers one of the strongest distilled pop-rock songs of the time (keeping in mind this was the time of Avril Lavigne's much similar I-AM-PUNK campaign).

Apparently taken from Tim Armstrong and his band, Rancid, this was apparently passed on to her when it didn't make the cut for their album. He would go on to recreate this in 2012 (and it's so awful I'll just link it HERE) Honestly if you're not a big fan of this, give this a listen and... see what she turned out.

Speaking to MTV in 2003, he had this to say about her:


"All I know is that if people are gonna give me sh-- for working with the best woman vocalist in the world right now, then let them give me sh--," he said defiantly. "Pink is the sh--, and working with her has been all positive."

I do think P!nk doesn't get the credit she deserves for having consistently switched things up in her career to keep things excited. Despite the album being, admittedly, an admirably quickly made affair - this was a total revolution compared to the previous album; perhaps not characteristically, because P!nk has always put her personality at the forefront, but instead introducing this charismatic appeal to the masses. Before this we'd been shown both R&B P!nk and diary-entry P!nk, this would go on to inform the rest of her career in opening up that tongue-in-cheek rocker that isn't afraid to say what she wants to say.



Commentary corner:

@Verandi: (10) Imagine not loving this song. Imagine not screaming the words of this banger in your car. Imagine being proud to tank this song while your fave song is Beautiful Cause You Love Me. Imagine.

@P'NutButter: (10) Everything about this song is brilliant, the style, the humour, the video.

@rick: (10) 10/10. Impossible not to shout along

@Laurence: (10) Great track! I like this one a lot.

@tylerc904: (10) My personal runner-up. It came so close to snagging my 11 but ultimately one other song outranked it. I absolutely adore this. It’s 3 minutes of pure carefree fun.

@abael: (10) Describing Trouble as a return to form for Pink doesn't do it justice. This is waking up well rested after being pronounced dead 3 hours ago

@Music Is Life:(10) I used to just enjoy this, but not love it cause the chorus annoyed me a little. Now I see it as the absolute pop-punk JAM that it is! The melody on the verses is great, and the production rocks so hard, but still has just the little bit of pop that it needs. And when that part at 2:25 comes in with basically just her voice and drums, it’s a fucking moment. I can’t believe this wasn’t a HUGE hit everywhere. I love this.

@sapnu puas: (9) a deserved Grammy- I could not believe it! A bit too much guitar for the gays I guess?

@Maki: (9) The lead single (at least I consider it a lead single) which sums up most of the album; raspy voice, and rock, rebellious and angry tunes. That means it’s a perfect choice for a lead single, and it even won a Grammy?! Very catchy song and I love the middle-8, in all of its sparkling production. The song could’ve been twice as short or twice as long, but it still works.

@R27: (7.5) She does more telling than showing her, but who really cares when the track is this much fun?

@Reboot: (6) Catchy but basic. It’s kind of devoid of her personality.

@The Hot Rock: (5) Feels like the most ~conventional P!nk song on Try This. It's okay but not one of the best on here.

@savilizabeths: (4) “I don’t really like this that much? Am I alone in that? I really just don’t care for that chorus. It starts to annoy me pretty quick. Didn’t she win a Grammy for this? THIS? A choice, I guess.”

@JMRGBY88: (2) I’m sorry but I hate this song.


Oh.
 
Finally, "God Is a DJ" is out. It might be the only song in the entire rate that I would call overrated.
I never saw the light in it fully, and even consider it among the three weakest songs from "Try This" era, but that doesn't mean that it isn't a great song.

And "Trouble" leaving just after it isn't a tragedy, but the point/placement difference between the two singles should've been much bigger.
The only 'objection' I have with "Trouble" is that it can get a bit too repetitive sometimes, but it's a pure fun track and I love it. Just listened to the Rancid version of the song and... yikes, it's not good.

Funny how my ranking of the singles from that album is compoletely different from the actual results:
1. Last to Know
2. Trouble
3. God Is a DJ

"Try This" deserved better, especially "Free", "Delirium", "Try Too Hard", "Catch Me While I'm Sleeping", even "Humble Neighborhoods" and "Last to Know". Glad to see that I'm one of the highest scorers of it.
 
Another thing I have to say is that "Trouble" has an amazing music video, while "God Is a DJ" is one of her weakest videos. It's like a psychedelic version of "Get the Party Started" video, but it's a bit of a slog.
I mean, it's not bad, just cheap and a bit uninteresting.

Also, now that "God Is a DJ" is out, I no longer have scores lower than an 8; in fact, only three remaining
songs have a score between 8 and 9, and all the rest is 9+.
 
The the last two eliminations definitely the lowest point of the rate so far. Try This was done dirty throughout the entire rate (might I add) and not having a single song crack top 15 is honestly insulting to the album that laid the groundwork for what many now considers her best album.

And yes I will be bold and say without Try This I don't think we would have ended up with I'm Not Dead.
 
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The video was such a moment. I just rewatched it and it has stood the test of time. Brought back so much memories of that era, it was one of two videos I knew would play every morning on MTV while getting dressed for school the other being Me Against The Music. MTV always played them back to back for some reason.

I also remember watching the Making The Video episode, where she was actually injured? But insisted on still doing her own stunts.

Easily one of her best videos for me.

 
@Verandi: (10) Imagine not loving this song. Imagine not screaming the words of this banger in your car. Imagine being proud to tank this song while your fave song is Beautiful Cause You Love Me. Imagine.



I never would have expected Try This to be the first album eliminated. At least it barely made it to the top 20. Last To Know and Feel Good Time not even making it to the top 30 was absolutely tragic though.
 

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