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Pink: The Discography Rate ∞ WINNER!

Discussion in 'Charts, rates etc' started by swim, May 28, 2019.

  1. This went too early, but given it's a cover, it did well. Her vocals are undeniably amazing.
    I'm a bit shocked that you didn't enjoy it @Lost Boy.

    Also, surprise, @Verandi and I agree about something!

    At least "White Rabbit" is the longest lasting songs from the extras.

    These all range from solid to amazing, she really has some killer bonus tracks!
    Except for "Disconnected", which I'm not too keen on, all of these should stay for a while.

    Still sad over "Words", "Why Did I Ever Like You" and "Could've Had Everything", they are all among her very best bonus tracks/B-sides.
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  3. 'Eventually' you deserved better!!!!!
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  4. Oh no... R.I.P. "Eventually".
    I thought that people loved "M!ssundaztood" (okay, there's one exception). Still, what the hell?

    Edit: Heck, that even sounds like my 11! I'm so anxious...
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    86. Eventually
    Average score: 6.89
    Highest score: 10x2 (@Maki, @P'NutButter)
    Lowest score: 1 (@happiestgirl)
    My score: 9

    Written alongside Linda Perry, and produced by her, 'Eventually' is a long lost classic and a melancholic masterpiece. Barely there in comparison to the rest of her discography, the song is as simple as it comes, sparkling with exceptional and brutal lyricism and unparalleled world-building. A few comments came down on this for being boring but I think this is mid-tempo done to absolutely perfection, to the point where you just get lost in the world she's creating.

    You'll get yours eventually

    She just sounds so defeated and downtrodden, the entire song playing with that mood perfectly, as she explores a heartbreaking revenge in knowing karma is going to come back. It's such a powerful sentiment that she usually reserves for a good old FUCK YOU-stomper, so hearing it played out like this breaks my heart with every single listen.

    Commentary corner:
    @P'NutButter: (10) my favourite album track. So beautifully honest in a bittersweet way.

    @Maki: (10) Wow… It’s hard to describe my love for this song. Perfection. This is the first song that P!nk and Linda Perry wrote together, and it just showcases what a perfect match they are and how the way in which they created the songs is so special. Such a sad, emotional and dark song - spellbindingly beautiful. The atmospheric, gloomy feel of the song is pure magic. I picture a windy, cold, wintery night while listening to this. Impeccable production and string instruments used just enhance the beauty of this track. The lyrics are lovely, too (‘shame on you if you fool me once, shame on me if you fool me twice’ is just one amazing line). Oh my, and the harmonies, especially in the middle-8! And when the harmony comes in ‘… then fade away’ bit, I always get chills; such a special moment. I just space out and only pay attention to the song when listening to it, this masterpiece is that powerful.

    @R27: (5.5) Sounds like a holdover from her debut. It's harmless enough but largely unremarkable.

    @savilizabeths: (8)“The mix of her vocals and the instrumental on this sound so dreamy together. Yet another song I feel I’ll like even more with time. It’s definitely gorgeous.”

    @rick: (8.5) I like to listen to this while I imagine bad things happening to people who annoy me for minor inconveniences

    @abael: (2) The world must have been a different place back when this album was released, because somehow this collection of ooze didn't write Pink off as completely bland and shallow

    @sapnu puas: (8.5) I’ve always loved how she sounds here

    @Music Is Life: (8.75) I really like the lyrics to this, and the production on it kinda makes me feel relaxed and sleepy, in a good way. I love the way the production builds a little in the middle-8, and I love the acoustic guitar throughout this song.

    Last edited: Sep 2, 2019
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  6. I know; it should have been way earlier!
  7. "Eventually" is probably my biggest loss in this rate so far.

    I consider it not only the album highlight, and the best album track, but one of the very best moments in her entire career (I'm speaking top 5 P!nk songs).
    The production is absolutely mesmerizing, the lyrics are brutaly honest and sad, her vocals are gorgeous, yet fragile, and the entire vibe of the song is gloomy atmosphere at the very best. In one word: masterpiece.
    It just melts my heart how vulnerable she sounds on this song, too.

    What makes this song even more magical is the fact that it's the very first song P!nk and Linda wrote and recorded together, shortly after they met, especially the way that the song was created:

    Majority of the song was only done in one take? I'm amazed.

    I just can't process how anyone would call this song boring, let alone dislike it... that's how much I adore this song.

    I thought that at least "Dear Diary" would leave before it (from that album), so this makes me even more surprised.
    However, deep inside I knew that the most magical moments of "M!ssundaztood" would end up underrated for some reason. Still, I don't get what makes that album so special if it isn't that gorgeous second half.
    "Respect", "Catch-22", even the title track and "18 Wheeler"? No, they can't even get a light year close to wonders like "Eventually".

    @happiestgirl, @abael, @Verandi, even @Sprockrooster, you'll get yours... eventually.
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  8. I feel like a killer hiding in the shadows, not giving commentary, not giving clues about my score, nothing.

    The three best non-singles from the album yes.
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    85. The Great Escape
    Average score: 6.92
    Highest score: 10x3 (@Sail On, @sapnu puas, @Music Is Life)
    Lowest score: 4x2 (@happiestgirl, @Laurence)
    My score: 8

    "I was inspired to write that song because I... A lot of people think it's about suicide, and you know what? It's whatever they want it to be about, 'cause I don't try to... if that's what it does for someone, then I don't wanna ruin that by telling them my story. But, for me, it's about how I think the entire world is numbed down on something, whether it's antidepressants, or anti-anxiety, or.... It just seems like there's a pill for everything now. 'Do you wake up in the morning....? You need.... Side effects include....' And I have very personal relationships that frustrate the hell out of me because they can't feel anything. I personally need my highs; I need my lows. I have a gig that requires them and I just... I want them. I wanna feel. I wanna sit in my misery sometimes and just cry. But I think a lot of people are now taught to be afraid of their emotions or to hide them or to swallow them down, and... emotions make people uncomfortable. You know? We say, 'How are you?' but we don't wait around to hear the answer. And, we don't really wanna hear the answer. Um... In some cultures, it's actually rude to tell them the answer when they ask you how you are. It's interesting, I played that song for a couple of people that I thought needed to hear it and they got really defensive, which was really... I did my job. I see a lot going on in the world and I sometimes wonder how we all sit back and just watch it, like it's a reality show. I think it's really beautiful. It's really, just... melodically beautiful."

    'The Great Escape', as P!nk puts it herself perfectly, explores the use of our own emotions and how, in her experience, those emotions have propelled her to where she is now. As a writer she obviously requires the ability to tap into these things, and as such it's a somewhat privileged position to speak from, but there's a brutal truth to her exploration of how people mask their pains behind a numbness. Life is a hamster wheel sometimes and we keep on running instead of stopping to catch up with how we're feeling.

    As she also explains, it works exceptionally well as a metaphor for depression and suicidal thoughts. Now depression is far from under our control, and there's nothing weak about taking anti-depressants, but it's a great exploration in trying to get people to stop and accept the way they're feeling. It's a gorgeous sentiment that works well to represent supporting someone else through a tough time, holding their emotions for them and refusing to let them suffer alone. Truly one of her greatest moments.

    Commentary corner:
    @JMRGBY88: (6.5) another song with a sensitive subject behind it but I just don’t find myself coming back to it.

    @rick: (9) That middle 8 is stunning.

    @Sail On: (10) This has maybe my favorite P!nk bridge ever.

    @abael: (8) This track is all about showing Pinks vocal ability and I’m more than happy to sit back and enjoy.

    @P'NutButter: (9) stunning ballad

    @R27: (4.5) There aren't many parenting songs in P!nk’s discography, so it's an interesting change of pace from her typical material. Unfortunately, the song itself is rather bland and pales in comparison to some of her other album closers

    @savilizabeths: (7) “I scored this one a little higher than I might have otherwise because the lyrics really hit for me. So despite being a little dull, especially to start with, it’s an emotional little ballad that makes me quite sad when I listen to it.”

    @Maki: (6) One of her more forgettable songs. It's a nice ballad, with a beautiful chorus, but it doesn't keep my interest much. The arrangement is and the harmonies in the second and final chorus are lovely, it's a pity that the song doesn't appeal to me. Reminds me of the more Disney-ish ballads she's been doing for her recent albums, which aren't really my thing, either.

    @Music Is Life: (10) This is such a beautifully gorgeous closer. I don’t get any hate, dislike or bland feelings towards this. Yes it’s a piano ballad and she has lots, but she does them so well. And when that guitar comes in – you know I’m going to love that. And the tambourine in the middle- is a serious highlight. Then there’s the lyrics. These lyrics hit me every. Single. Time. I listen to this. They’re just so beautiful and supportive and sad, and always make me wanna cry and hug her, and every person I think of when I listen to this song.
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  10. The Great Escape going before Crystal Ball, Lonely Girl and I Got Money Now. That is a thing that happened.
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  11. I'm an opportunity and I knock so softly
    Sometimes I get loud when I wish everybody just get off me
    So many players you'd think I was a board game
    It's every man for them self, there are no teammates

    This life gets lonely
    When everybody wants something
    They'll smile up in your face
    But they'll get their's eventually and I hope I'm there

    Surrounded by familiar faces with no names
    None of them know me or want to share my pain
    They only wish to bask in my light
    Then fade away

    To win my love, to them a game
    To watch me live my life in vain
    When all is done and the glitter fades away
    They'll get theirs eventually, I hope I'm there

    I drank your poison 'cause you told me it's wine
    Shame on you if you fooled me once
    Shame on me if you fooled me twice
    I didn't know the price, you'll get yours eventually

    So what good am I to you?
    If I can't be broken
    You'll get yours, yes
    You'll get yours eventually

    - truly a work of art, and deserved so much better.

    and again 'The Great Escape', another stellar ballad, out way too soon. Sad.
  12. !

    My thoughts exactly, except I think I Got Money Now is great. The Great Escape is one if her best ballads to me, which is a bit surprising considering which album it's on.
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  13. The Great Escape out at 85?!

    Some of you haven’t been diagnosed with depression and it shows.
  14. Recap:

    Can't Take Me Home

    Split Personality
    Hell Wit Ya
    Most Girls
    There You Go
    You Make Me Sick


    Don't Let Me Get Me
    Just Like a Pill
    Get the Party Started
    18 Wheeler
    Family Portrait
    Dear Diary
    Lonely Girl

    Try This

    God is a DJ
    Last to Know
    Oh My God
    Catch Me While I'm Sleeping
    Waiting for Love
    Save My Life
    Try Too Hard
    Humble Neighborhoods
    Walk Away
    Love Song
    Feel Good Time

    I'm Not Dead

    Stupid Girls
    Who Knew
    Long Way to Happy
    Nobody Knows
    Dear Mr. President
    I'm Not Dead
    Cuz I Can
    Leave Me Alone (I'm Lonely)
    U + Ur Hand
    I Got Money Now
    Conversations with my 13 Year Old Self


    So What
    I Don't Believe You
    One Foot Wrong
    Please Don't Leave Me
    Bad Influence
    Crystal Ball
    It's All Your Fault
    Ave Mary A
    Glitter in the Air
    This is How It Goes Down

    The Truth About Love

    Are We All We Are
    Blow Me (One Last Kiss)
    True Love
    Slut Like You
    Walk of Shame
    Where Did the Beat Go?
    My Signature Move
    Is This Thing On?
    The King is Dead but the Queen is Alive

    Beautiful Trauma

    Beautiful Trauma
    Whatever You Want
    What About Us
    Where We Go

    Greatest Hits... So Far!!!

    Whataya Want From Me
    Raise Your Glass
    Fucking Perfect
    Heartbreak Down

    Hurts 2B Human

    (Hey Why) Miss You Sometimes
    Walk Me Home
    My Attic
    90 Days
    Hurts 2B Human
    We Could Have It All


  15. The Greatest Hits era remaining untouched? The talent jumped out!
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  16. Imagine ad-libbing that in just one take... wow.

    I'm so glad that you and @Lost Boy, among others, loved "Eventually"!
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  17. A correct thing.
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  19. As for "The Great Escape", it was one of my lowest scores remaining, but it's still a very nice song. I'm listening to it right now and on its own, it sounds quite lovely, but in the context of the album, it gets a bit lost. It's also one of her weakest album closers.
    But that's not the song that I expected (or hoped) would leave next from "The Truth About Love". *cough* "Slut Like You" *cough*

    I refuse to hear anything bad towards "Lonely Girl" and "I Got Money Now" - they are both masterpieces and deserve to reach the top 10, especially "I Got Money Now".
    I agree about "Crystal Ball", though, it can be among the next few eliminations.
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  20. I liked this post but let me just say I totally disagree with the last part. Crystal Ball is amazing and shouldn't be going any time soon.
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