PJ RETRO 86: Diner

Right this way, your table is ready.


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For your main entry, the theme this round is Food & Drink.

Check your potentials list for a song that meets one of the following options:

-something related in the title of your entry (e.g. Dee Dee Sharp’s “Mashed Potato Time”)

-something related in the name of your artist (e.g. The Cranberries’ “Dreams”)

-something related to a place where you eat (e.g. Suzanne Vega’s “Tom’s Diner” or The Waitresses’ “I Know What Boys Like”)

-something related to the act of eating or drinking (e.g. Mario Lanza’s “Drink, Drink, Drink” or Spoon’s “Not Turning Off”)

-something in the title that is a food-related homonym (e.g. Debbie Gibson’s “Shake Your Love” has nothing to do with milkshakes)

-something in another language (e.g. papas is Spanish for potatoes, so The Mamas & The Papas’ “California Dreaming”)

-or something else tangentially food-adjacent that I have not mentioned! (I may ask for some context if I am too dumb to figure it out myself)

-note: food/drink references within the lyrics are not enough (e.g. “clouds in my coffee” wouldn’t make Carly Simon’s “You’re So Vain” an option)​


Rules

General inclusion/exclusion criteria for entries:
  • must have been first released before January 1, 2000​
  • no UK top 10 hits​
  • no US top 10 hits​
  • no covers or prominent samples of a UK or US top 10 hit OR was covered/prominently sampled in a song that was a UK or US top 10 hit​
  • no songs (or covers of songs) that have competed in the Eurovision Song Contest​
  • relatively unknown/underrated on Popjustice - so as a general benchmark, nothing from an artist with more than 25 pages of discussion on PJ (across all their artist threads)​
  • no entry that has been previously entered in a previous round of PJSC (list of entries here) or PJ Retro (list of entries here)​
  • no song by an act that was entered in the previous round - this includes any related solo or group acts to an act that was entered in the previous round (ex. Gwen Stefani and No Doubt, in an alternate universe where either of them could actually pass the veto criteria)​
Songs that fail these criteria should be vetoed by the round host. Songs that pass these criteria should be PMed to the veto panel for their decisions, with at least a 2/3 majority vote required for a song to be included in the contest. A list of previously vetoed tracks can be found here

Criteria that will also be taken in consideration for veto purposes:
  • Song is from an album that peaked in the top 10 on the UK or US albums chart​
  • Song is from a Platinum- or Gold-certified album in the UK or US​
  • Song peaked between #11 and #20 on the UK or US singles chart​
  • Song was a major hit in other big music markets and/or in multiple countries​
  • Act has 15-24 pages of discussion on the forum​
  • Song is by an act who had major success in the UK or US​
  • Act has been entered multiple times in this contest (see repeat artists guideline below)​
Usually, if your song meets only one of these criteria, it should be fine, but there are exceptions of course.

Repeat artists guideline:
  • The same act (in any form - solo, group, featured, etc.) can be entered multiple times, but there is a maximum, based on 10% of the number of round there have been. For example: the Dolly Dots have participated five times thus far. If we were currently in round 55, they would not be eligible again until round 60. An act that has participated 8 times, would not become eligible until round 90, etc.​
  • For the winner of each round, that artist cannot be entered again (in any form - solo, group, featured) for the subsequent NINE rounds​
Voting rules:
  • You can award points to 10 entries per round. Award points ranging from 12, 10, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, and 1 (with 12 points going to your favorite entry).​
  • Only people who submitted a participating song can vote.​
  • Entrants cannot vote for their own submission.​
  • All entrants who fail to vote by the host's deadline will have their final scores be cut in half.​
  • Do NOT disclose your participating song until the voting deadline is closed, and disclosing which songs you did not enter is not encouraged. Please, do not (overly) hype or criticize participating acts or songs until the voting deadline has passed​
  • Be nice and play fair​

Side Theme

The number 86 is used in restaurants as a way to signal that something should be excluded. A waiter might tell the cook “The customer wants a cheeseburger, 86 the tomato.” Since we are in Round 86, it’s only appropriate that we think about something we’d want to 86.

At some point during the voting period, I would like you to send me the name of a song that you wish you could 86 from one of your favorite artists’ discographies. Also, if you are a regular RETRO participant, feel free to send me one of your previous entries that you wish you could 86 from your RETRO-legacy. I will share these at the reveal.

The Dates

Submissions: Open until Wednesday, March 8 23:59 in the final timezone
Voting: Votes due by Sunday, March 26 23:59 Tuesday, March 28 in the final timezone
Reveals: Monday, March 27 Wednesday, March 29 19:00 GMT
 
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The songs!

@tak - Pizza Boy - @iheartpoptarts
4-3-1 - Animal - @chanex
A La Carte - Ring Me Honey - @WoW73
Anna Book - Killsnack - @Phonetics Girl
Candy Girls feat. Sweet Pussy Pauline - Wham Bam - @ohnoitisnathan
Chayanne - Fiesta En América - @Untouchable Ace
Christian Fry - You Got Me - @saviodxl
Cibo Matto - Beef Jerky - @Isobel
dEUS - Suds & Soda - @invertedbutterfly
Dolly Dots - Keep On Running - @DJHazey
Evelyn "Champagne" King - Out Of Control - @WowWowWowWow
Fläskkvartetten & Nina Persson - Som glas - @A&E
Joyce Sims - Walk Away - @sometimesxtc
Kids In The Kitchen - Bitter Desire - @Jeffo
Kim Harlow - Allo réseau - @berserkboi
Lime - Your Love - @Up N Down
Luscious Jackson - Ladyfingers - @pop3blow2
Milk Inc. - Promise - @Ezz
OTT - The Story Of Love - @Doodvid
Papaya - Hero - @If You Go
Pepper Girls - So Cold As Ice - @Derek
Pink Lady - Kiss In The Dark - @citoig
Rainbow Team - Bite The Apple - @klow
Regurgitator - Kong Foo Sing - @Dynamo
Silver Apples - Oscillations - @TéléDex
Strawpeople - Spoiler - @Maki
Tanita Tikaram - Feeding The Witches - @Disco Blister
The Flaming Lips - She Don't Use Jelly - @DominoDancing
Thomas Dolby - Europa And The Pirate Twins - @Attis
Throbbing Gristle - Hamburger Lady - @Filler
Vanessa Daou - Two To Tango - @soratami
Voice Of The Beehive - Moon Of Dust - @Hudvar
Wild Strawberries - Trampoline - @Tiger Suit

Spotify Playlist


Not available on Spotify:
Pepper Girls - So Cold As Ice
Strawpeople - Spoiler


YouTube Playlist


NOTE: The deadline for votes has been extended
Votes will now be due by Tuesday, March 28th 23:59 in the final time zone
Results will be revealed on Wednesday, March 29th 19:00 GMT
 
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The results!

1) A La Carte - Ring Me Honey // WoW73 = 111
2) Pepper Girls - So Cold As Ice // Derek = 99
3) Luscious Jackson - Ladyfingers // pop3blow2 = 93


4) 4-3-1 - Animal // chanex = 91
=5) Tanita Tikaram - Feeding The Witches // Disco Blister = 82
=5) Christian Fry - You Got Me // saviodxl = 82
7) Pink Lady - Kiss In The Dark // citoig = 77
8) Vanessa Daou - Two To Tango // soratami = 76
9) Papaya - Hero // If You Go = 69
=10) Milk Inc. - Promise // Ezz = 65
=10) Strawpeople - Spoiler // Maki = 65
12) Cibo Matto - Beef Jerky // Isobel = 62
13) Kids In The Kitchen - Bitter Desire // Jeffo = 60
14) Wild Strawberries - Trampoline // Tiger Suit = 59
15) Silver Apples - Oscillations // TéléDex = 57
16) Rainbow Team - Bite The Apple // klow = 56
17) Candy Girls feat. Sweet Pussy Pauline - Wham Bam // ohnoitisnathan = 55
=18) Dolly Dots - Keep On Running // DJHazey = 54
=18) Thomas Dolby - Europa And The Pirate Twins // Attis = 54
=20) Joyce Sims - Walk Away // sometimesxtc = 53
=20) @tak - Pizza Boy // iheartpoptarts = 53
22) Fläskkvartetten & Nina Persson - Som glas // A&E = 51
23) Kim Harlow - Allo réseau // berserkboi = 50
24) Evelyn "Champagne" King - Out Of Control // WowWowWowWow = 47
25) dEUS - Suds & Soda // invertedbutterfly = 46
26) Voice Of The Beehive - Moon Of Dust // Hudvar = 40
=27) Anna Book - Killsnack // Phonetics Girl = 35
=27) Chayanne - Fiesta En América // Untouchable Ace = 35
29) Lime - Your Love // Up N Down = 33
30) The Flaming Lips - She Don't Use Jelly // DominoDancing = 32
31) OTT - The Story Of Love // Doodvid = 30
32) Throbbing Gristle - Hamburger Lady // Filler = 26
33) Regurgitator - Kong Foo Sing // Dynamo = 16​
 
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We are now taking your orders via PM!

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One thing I forgot to mention - while of course we would not have multiple songs by the same act in a round - a theme may be repeated (e.g. "Criminal" by Fiona Apple and "Appletree" by Erykah Badu could both show up) (but not those two songs because yeah).​
 
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Looking at all of my previous (about 40) PJ Retro entries, it seems that only one song fits this round's theme criteria:



Foods, drinks etc. are definitely not a common theme among my Retro songs it seems. Ironically, Mariella was sent to that fruit round but it was only a side theme, so I could've easily used it here.

And here's an ineligible one-minute retro song that includes so many different types of foods it should be considered for a Guinness World record or something:




And just after posting this, I recall a song that also suits this theme perfectly. Now should I switch to that one...
 
Looking at all of my previous (about 40) PJ Retro entries, it seems that only one song fits this round's theme criteria:



Foods, drinks etc. are definitely not a common theme among my Retro songs it seems. Ironically, Mariella was sent to that fruit round but it was only a side theme, so I could've easily used it here.

And here's an ineligible one-minute retro song that includes so many different types of foods it should be considered for a Guinness World record or something:




And just after posting this, I recall a song that also suits this theme perfectly. Now should I switch to that one...

Have a glass of Rosé
 
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