PJOPS Retrochart w/e 13/09/80

[cityofdoomsday]

Top 100 9-13-1980
# Artist - Song -Total Weeks - Last Week
1. Olivia Newton-John & E.L.O. - Xanadu (New #1)
2. Irene Cara - Fame
3. Spider - Everything Is Alright
4. Olivia Newton-John - Magic
5. James Last Band - Nightdrive
6. Electric Light Orchestra - All Over The World
7. Lenore O'Malley - First Be A Woman
8. Lipps Inc. - Rock It
9. Diana Ross - Upside Down
10. Air Supply - All Out Of Love
11. S.O.S. Band - Take Your Time
12. George Benson - Give me The Night
13. Ambrosia - You're The Only Woman
14. Gerry Rafferty - Royal Mile
15. France Joli - The Heart To Break The Heart
16. Larry Graham - One In A Million You
17. Eddie Rabbitt - Drivin' My Life Away
18. Gibson Brothers - Que Sera Mi Vida
19. Blondie - Hanging On The telephone
20. Roxy Music - Over You
21. Gap Band - Oops Upside Your Head
22. Harry Thuman - Underwater
23. Genesis - Misunderstanding
24. Christopher Cross - Sailing
25. Jackson Browne - Boulevard
26. Sheila & B. Devotion - Spacer
27. Meco - Empire Strikes Back
28. Kano - I'm Ready
29. Stephanie Mills - Never Knew Love Like This Before
30. Chic - Rebels Are We
31. Gene Chandler - Does She Have A Friend For Me?
32. Lipps Inc. - All Night Dancing
33. Odyssey - Use It Up, Wear It Out
34. Young & Co. - I Like What You're Doing To Me
35. France Joli - This Time
36. Blondie - Atomic
37. Queen - Another One Bites The Dust
38. Kenny Loggins - I'm Alright
39. Boz Scaggs - Look What you've Done To Me
40. RCR - Give It To You
41. Village People - Can't Stop The Music
42. Toronto - Even The Score
43. Robert John - Hey There Lonely Girl
44. Clash - London Calling
45. Martha & the Muffins - Echo Beach
46. Billy Joel - Don't Ask Me Why
47. Joy Division - Love Will Tear Us Apart
48. Pat Benetar - You Better Run
49. Fischer Z - So Long
50. Baby O - In The Forest
51. Bob Seger & S.B.B. - You'll Accompany Me
52. Pete Townshend - Let My Love Open The Door
53. Amii Stewart & Johnny Bristol - My Guy/My Girl
54. Pointer Sisters - He's So Shy
55. Viola Wills - If You Could Read My Mind
56. Irene Cara - Out Here On My Own
57. Jon & Vangelis - I Hear You Now
58. Cars - Touch And Go
59. Ann -Margret - Midnight Message
60. Genesis - Turn It On Again
61. Devo - Whip It
62. Donna Summer - Walk Away <new
63. Teri DeSario - Caught <new
64. Yellow Magic Orchestra - Behind The Mask <new
65. Split Enz - I Got You
66. Dschingis Khan- Moscow
67. Telex - Eurovision
68. Paul Simon - Late In The Evening
69. Johnny Lee - Lookin' For Love
70. Peter Gabriel - Games Without Frontiers
71. William DeVaughn- Be Thankful For What You've Got
72. Doobie Bothers - Real Love
73. John Williams - Imperial March
74. Natalie Cole - Someone That I Used To Love
75. Rolling Stones - Emotional Rescue
76. Chicago - Thunder & Lightning
77. Kings - Switchin To Glide
78. Barbra Streisand - Woman In Love <new
79. David Bowie - Ashes To Ashes <new
80. Rocky Burnette - Tired Of Toein' The Line
81. Pat Benetar - We Live For Love
82. Amy Holland - How Do I Survive <new
83. Gary Numan - I Die, You Die
84. Ultravox - Sleepwalk
85. Electric Light Orchestra - I'm Alive
86. Willie Nelson - On The Road Again <new
87. Anne Murray - Could I Have This Dance <new
88. Madleen Kane - Cherchez Pas
89. Chris Deburgh - the Traveler <new
90. Adja Pekkan - Petrol <reentry
91. Alvin & the Chpmunks - You May Be Right
92. Rossington Collins Band - Don't Misunderstand Me
93. Ray, Goodman & Brown - My Prayer
94. Silencers - Modern Love <new
95. Fever - Dreams And Desire
96. Gregg Arrell - Do It All Again <new
95. Dynasty - I've Just Begun To Love You
98. Peter Jacques Band - Welcome Back
99. Commodores - Old Fashioned Love
100. Kurtis Blow - the Breaks
Dropouts
Linda Ronstadt - I Can't Let Go
MASH - Theme From M*A*S*H*
Ritchie Family - Give Me A Break
Pink Floyd - Comfortably Numb
Ali Thompson - Take A Little Rhythm
Kim Carnes - More Love
Herb Alpert - Beyond
Poco -Under The Gun
the Ramones - Do You Remember..
Bette Midler - the Rose
Boz Scaggs - Jojo
Blondie - Call Me

 

[cityofdoomsday]

Xanadu has reached the peak of the City Of Doomsday chart! A quick mover up the survey from 51-26-4-2-2-1!

 

[Hairycub1969]

Shakatak and Level 42....maybe we should rename the HMV chart the Wine Bar Chart!

Linx will be joining them soon!

 

[phoenix123]

Too many good songs entering this week!

 

[phoenix123]

@phoenix123 Retrochart Top Ten w/e 13/09/16

01

01 01 13 Fame / Irene Cara SECOND WEEK AT NUMBER ONE
02

03 02 07 Don't Ask Me Why / Billy Joel
03

06 03 07 Give Me Back My Man / B-52s
04

02 01 07 The Winner Takes It All / ABBA
05

08 05 05 Another One Bites The Dust / Queen
06

04 04 08 No Night So Long / Dionne Warwick
07

09 07 09 Funkin For Jamaica / Tom Browne
08

10 08 05 Dreamin' / Cliff Richard
09

05 05 12 Take A Little Rhythm / Ali Thomson
10

12 10 05 Ashes To Ashes / David Bowie

Irene Cara extends her lead at the summit while Billy Joel moves into runner up position to make it a fourth consecutive top 2 hit so far this year from his current album Glass Houses! The B-52s gain their second top 5 hit of the year and for Queen it is their fourth! Meanwhile Cliff's third top ten hit of the year goes one better than his last two singles in hitting #8 this week.

 

[phoenix123]

@phoenix123 Retrochart Top 100 w/e 13/09/16

11 07 01 10 Upside Down / Diana Ross
12 15 12 03 One Day I'll Fly Away / Randy Crawford
13 13 12 07 Oh Yeah (On The Radio) / Roxy Music
14 16 14 04 Start / The Jam
15 11 05 08 Private Life / Grace Jones
16 17 16 07 All Over The World / ELO
17 19 17 06 Bankrobber / The Clash
18 26 18 04 Eighth Day / Hazel O'Connor
19 14 14 06 Modern Girl / Sheena Easton
20 24 20 08 He's So Shy / Pointer Sisters
21 21 21 08 You Better Run / Pat Benatar
22 20 20 09 Hot Rod Hearts / Robbie Dupree
23 28 23 07 Private Idaho / B-52s
24 18 04 09 Give Me The Night / George Benson
25 36 25 03 I Owe You One / Shalamar
26 29 26 09 Boulevard / Jackson Browne
27 22 08 09 Morning Train (9 To 5) / Sheena Easton
28 25 02 11 Love Is The Drug / Grace Jones
29 31 29 07 I Can't Let Go / Linda Ronstadt
30 33 30 07 Feels Like I'm In Love / Kelly Marie
31 32 31 05 Best Friend / The Beat
32 23 04 17 Magic / Olivia Newton-John
33 43 33 03 Just When I Needed You Most / Randy Vanwarmer

HIGHCLIMBER
34 37 34 05 Never Knew Love Like This Before / Stephanie Mills
35 39 35 05 Late At Night / Maywood
36 27 01 13 Xanadu / Olivia Newton-John & ELO
37 30 16 10 Oops Upside You Head / The Gap Band
38 47 38 02 Summer Fun / The Barracudas
39

39 01 Walk Away / Donna Summer HIGHEST NEW ENTRY
40 34 01 13 Could You Be Loved / Bob Marley & The Wailers
41 35 06 13 Use It Up, Wear It Out / Odyssey
42 38 01 17 It's Still Rock & Roll To Me / Billy Joel
43

43 01 Three Little Birds / Bob Marley & The Wailers
44 51 44 05 Late In The Evening / Paul Simon
45 52 45 06 Sartorial Eloquence (Don't You Wanna Play This Game No More) / Elton John
46 67 46 04 Out Here On My Own / Irene Cara

HIGHCLIMBER
47

47 01 Gotta Pull Myself Together / Nolans
48

48 01 Baggy Trousers / Madness
49 69 49 03 I Die You Die / Gary Numan

HIGHCLIMBER
50 40 30 09 How Does It Feel To Be Back / Hall & Oates
51 41 17 14 Sailing / Christopher Cross
52 42 09 11 Babooshka / Kate Bush
53 44 02 14 Play The Game / Queen
54 45 10 13 Sunset People / Donna Summer
55 68 55 03 Whatever You Decide / Randy Vanwarmer
56 79 56 02 Johnny & Mary / Robert Palmer

HIGHEST CLIMBER
57 59 57 04 Jo Jo / Bozz Scaggs
58 53 53 07 A Walk In The Park / Nick Straker Band
59 54 54 07 The Breaks / Kurtis Blow
60 46 44 08 First Be A Woman / Leonore O'Malley
61 50 28 11 A Rolling Stone / Grace Jones
62 49 05 17 Misunderstanding / Genesis
63 48 16 14 Someone That I Used To Love / Natalie Cole
64 56 56 10 Try My Love / Denise LaSalle
65 57 57 09 Help / John Farnham
66 58 58 08 Burnin Hot / Jermaine Jackson
67 83 67 02 You Shook Me All Night Long / AC/DC
68 55 01 24 The Rose / Bette Midler
69 65 65 03 Don't Make Me Wait Too Long / Roberta Flack
70 61 27 17 It's Alright / Sho Nuff
71 62 19 15 Take Your Time / The S.O.S. Band
72 66 66 06 Sleepwalk / Ultravox
73 60 04 14 Jump To The Beat / Stacy Lattisaw
74

74 01 Masterblaster (Jammin) / Stevie Wonder
75 63 15 11 Cupid / I've Loved You For A Long Time / The Detroit Spinners
76 64 49 12 Sweet Sensation / Stephanie Mills
77

77 01 D.I.S.C.O. / Ottawan
78 76 76 07 Stay The Night / Billy Ocean
79 70 29 10 Clouds / Chaka Khan
80 71 35 09 Burning Car / John Foxx
81 72 15 14 Running From Paradise / Hall & Oates
82 75 75 07 When The Spirit Moves You / Touch
83 77 77 07 Rock It / Lipps Inc.
84

84 01 If You're Looking For A Way Out / Odyssey
85 90 85 02 Looking For Love / Johnny Lee
86 73 36 08 Girlfriend / Michael Jackson
87 74 30 14 All Out Of Love / Air Supply
88

88 01 Live Every Minute / Ali Thomson
89 80 02 20 Mirror In The Bathroom / The Beat
90 91 90 02 Body Language / Dooleys
91 93 91 04 Emotional Rescue / Rolling Stones
92 94 92 03 The Kid Is Hot Tonight / Loverboy
93 95 93 03 Dynamite / Stacy Lattisaw
94 96 94 02 All The Way From America / Joan Armatrading
95 97 95 02 Big Time / Rick James
96 78 42 09 Give Me A Break / The Ritchie Family
97 92 89 08 Let My Love Open The Door / Pete Townshend
98 82 17 20 Little Jeannie / Elton John
99 84 12 17 Everybody's Got To Learn Sometime / Korgis
100 121 100 01 Whip It / Devo

Highest new entry this week goes to Donna Summer, looking to score a fourth top ten hit this year in the coming weeks. She is closely followed by Bob Marley & The Wailers, Madness and Nolans, all of whom are looking to repeat top ten successes from earlier this year. Robert Palmer's Johnny & Mary is highest climber this week. While Ottawan and Devo see their first ever chart entries.

 

[phoenix123]

@phoenix123 NUMBER ONES 1980

05/01/80 Off The Wall Michael Jackson
12/01/80 Off The Wall Michael Jackson
19/01/80 Off The Wall Michael Jackson
26/01/80 Brass In Pocket The Pretenders
02/02/80 Rock With You Michael Jackson
09/02/80 Rock With You Michael Jackson
16/02/80 Rock With You Michael Jackson
23/02/80 Save Me Queen
01/03/80 Save Me Queen
08/03/80 Atomic Blondie
15/03/80 Atomic Blondie
22/03/80 Atomic Blondie
29/03/80 You Know How To Love Me Phyllis Hyman
05/04/80 You Know How To Love Me Phyllis Hyman
12/04/80 Working My Way Back To You The Detroit Spinners
19/04/80 Turn It On Again Genesis
26/04/80 You May Be Right Billy Joel
03/05/80 Call Me Blondie
10/05/80 Call Me Blondie
17/05/80 What's Another Year Johnny Logan
24/05/80 What's Another Year Johnny Logan
31/05/80 She's Out Of My Life Michael Jackson
07/06/80 The Rose Bette Midler
14/06/80 The Rose Bette Midler
21/06/80 It's Still Rock & Roll To Me Billy Joel
28/06/80 It's Still Rock & Roll To Me Billy Joel
05/07/80 Xanadu Olivia Newton-John & ELO
12/07/80 Xanadu Olivia Newton-John & ELO
19/07/80 Xanadu Olivia Newton-John & ELO
26/07/80 Could You Be Loved Bob Marley & The Wailers
02/08/80 Upside Down Diana Ross
09/08/80 Upside Down Diana Ross
16/08/80 The Winner Takes It All ABBA
23/08/80 The Winner Takes It All ABBA
30/08/80 The Winner Takes It All ABBA
06/09/80 Fame Irene Cara
13/09/80 Fame Irene Cara

 

[Hairycub1969]

I've been meaning to do this for a while now - as per @phoenix123 - here's a log of my Retrochart number ones so far:

W/E Artist Title
05-Jan-80 The Police Walking on the moon
12-Jan-80 The Pretenders Brass in pocket
19-Jan-80 The Pretenders Brass in pocket
26-Jan-80 Madness My girl
02-Feb-80 Madness My girl
09-Feb-80 The Specials Too much too young
16-Feb-80 The Specials Too much too young
23-Feb-80 The Specials Too much too young
01-Mar-80 Blondie Atomic
08-Mar-80 Blondie Atomic
15-Mar-80 Blondie Atomic
22-Mar-80 The Jam Going Underground
29-Mar-80 The Jam Going Underground
05-Apr-80 Detroit Spinners Working my way back to you
12-Apr-80 Detroit Spinners Working my way back to you
19-Apr-80 Blondie Call me
26-Apr-80 Blondie Call me
03-May-80 Blondie Call me
10-May-80 Dexys Midnight Runners Geno
17-May-80 Dexys Midnight Runners Geno
24-May-80 Dexys Midnight Runners Geno
31-May-80 Gary Numan We are glass
07-Jun-80 Gary Numan We are glass
14-Jun-80 OMD Messages
21-Jun-80 OMD Messages
28-Jun-80 OMD Messages
05-Jul-80 Olivia Newton John & ELO Xanadu
12-Jul-80 Olivia Newton John & ELO Xanadu
19-Jul-80 Joy Divison Love will tear us apart
26-Jul-80 Joy Divison Love will tear us apart
02-Aug-80 Abba The winner takes it all
09-Aug-80 Abba The winner takes it all
16-Aug-80 Abba The winner takes it all
23-Aug-80 David Bowie Ashes to Ashes
30-Aug-80 David Bowie Ashes to Ashes
06-Sep-80 Gary Numan I die: You die
13-Sep-80 Gary Numan I die: You die

17 number ones so far this year - none of which has last longer than three weeks!

 

[Eric Generic]

I've been meaning to do this for a while now - as per @phoenix123 - here's a log of my Retrochart number ones so far:
17 number ones so far this year - none of which has last longer than three weeks!

I've been adding all mine to the #1s on my own Singles Chart playlist, as they happen. 15 and counting at the moment....

 

[phoenix123]

I demand you post them!

 

[Eric Generic]

 

[Hairycub1969]

Note: The single version of "Ashes to Ashes" - and the AA side of The Jam single "The dreams of children" !

 

[Eric Generic]

So actually that's only *14* number ones so far for 1980!

 

[cityofdoomsday]

Did you have a 1979 thread with weekly charts Phoenix123, like 1980?

 

[Russron]

The dry season continues (read: no new issues of NME in the closet to be found); so to replace Leon Haywood and the Jam who had both served their full 26 weeks, the RCA needed to re-enter Kurtis Blow to complete the top 60 with just Stevie Wonder as a newcomer.


01 -- 01 01 14 bad brains - pay to cum (mid-june)
02 -- 02 02 13 discharge - fight back (june)
03 -- 03 01 16 dead kennedys - holiday in cambodia (may US)
04 -- 04 02 37 lio - le banana split (UK Jul 25)
05 -- 05 05 16 the silver - do you wanna dance (may)
06 -- 06 06 07 abba - the winner takes it all (jul 25)
07 -- 07 07 14 olivia newton-john & e.l.o. - xanadu (jun 6)
08 -- 08 08 12 talking heads - cities (june)
09 -- 09 09 04 lio - amoureux solitaires (aug 15)
10 -- 10 09 12 grace jones - private life (jun 27)

11 -- 11 11 13 donna summer - sunset people (jun 13)
12 -- 12 08 23 discharge - realities of war (apr)
13 -- 13 13 09 bow wow wow - c30 c60 c90 go (jul 4)
14 -- 14 14 05 david bowie - ashes to ashes (aug 8)
15 -- 16 15 12 go-go's - we got the beat (may 27)
16 -- 17 16 03 mathématiques modernes - disco rough (mid-aug)
17 -- 18 17 10 grace jones - love is the drug (may?)
18 -- 19 16 26 nina hagen band - herrmann hiess er (march?)
19 -- 20 17 24 prince - sexy dancer (apr 5)
20 -- 21 20 02 donna summer - walk away (aug)

21 -- 22 21 10 kate bush - babooshka (jun 27)
22 -- 23 18 20 ellen foley - sad song (may 2 UK)
23 -- 24 19 14 lama - totuus löytyy kaurapuurosta (may)
24 -- 25 21 21 hassisen kone - hassisen kone (apr)
25 -- 26 25 09 magazine - sweetheart contract (jul 18)
26 -- 27 26 12 young marble giants - final day (june)
27 -- 28 27 07 liliput - split (jul)
28 -- 29 28 03 blurt - get / my mother was a friend of an enemy of the people (aug 16)
29 -- 30 29 04 devo - whip it (aug 13)
30 -- 31 30 07 the birthday party - mr. clarinet (jul 21)

31 -- 32 22 24 the cure - a forest (apr 5)
32 -- 33 23 16 maukka perusjätkä - säpinää (march)
33 -- 34 32 10 grace jones - a rolling stone (apr 18)
34 -- 36 30 17 alice - il vento caldo dell'estate (may)
35 -- 37 31 16 siouxsie & the banshees - christine (may 30)
36 -- 38 36 10 cerrone - panic (june?)
37 -- 39 37 06 u2 - a day without me (aug 8)
38 -- 40 38 08 peter gabriel - biko (jul 25)
39 -- 41 39 12 pere ubu - final solution (UK june)
40 -- 42 40 11 splodgenessabounds - two pints of lager and a packet of crisps (may)

41 -- 43 34 22 the b-52's - planet claire (mar US)
42 -- 44 35 23 madness - night boat to cairo (apr 5)
43 -- 45 36 15 ratsia - tämä hetki ja tulevaisuus (may)
44 -- 46 37 16 the human league - only after dark (may)
45 -- 47 38 16 gary numan - we are glass (may 23)
46 -- 48 46 04 the petticoats - normal (july)
47 -- 49 41 15 the residents - diskomo (may)
48 -- 50 48 02 buzzcocks - are everything
49 -- 51 49 08 the dickies - gigantor (jul 18)
50 -- 52 36 20 orchestral manoeuvres in the dark - messages (may 2)

51 -- 53 50 09 odyssey - use it up, wear it out (jun 6)
52 -- 54 52 09 ultravox - sleepwalk (jun 20)
53 -- 55 50 10 delta 5 - anticipation (may)
54 -- 56 54 09 queen - play the game (may 30)
55 -- 57 55 06 the b-52's - private idaho
56 -- 58 56 04 the mekons - snow (july?)
57 -- 59 57 09 the gap band - oops upside your head (uk jun 13)
58 -- 60 58 03 chic - rebels are we (uk jul 25)
59 -- re 59 03 kurtis blow - the breaks
60 -- ne 60 01 stevie wonder - masterblaster

 

[phoenix123]

Did you have a 1979 thread with weekly charts Phoenix123, like 1980?

I'm afraid not. I decided to start at the start of the decade. I thought even starting then would prove a bit too early for most and judging by a lot of comments in the first thread many people did seem to say they would be interested in contributing but only once we got to the mid 80s.

Not enough of us oldies around!

 

[Eric Generic]

TW LW WoC TITLE / ARTIST
1 3 4 DREAMIN' Cliff Richard
2 4 6 ALL OVER THE WORLD E.L.O.
3 1 5 ASHES TO ASHES David Bowie
4 5 5 IT'S STILL ROCK'N'ROLL TO ME Billy Joel
5 6 3 I DIE: YOU DIE Gary Numan
6 2 4 START! The Jam
7 18 2 MAGIC Olivia Newton John
8 12 4 EIGHTH DAY Hazel O'Connor
9 11 5 A WALK IN THE PARK Nick Straker Band
10 8 7 THE WINNER TAKES IT ALL ABBA
11 17 3 I GOT YOU Split Enz
12 7 6 FEELS LIKE I'M IN LOVE Kelly Marie
13 15 5 MODERN GIRL Sheena Easton
14 - 1 ANOTHER ONE BITES THE DUST Queen
15 9 7 OH YEAH (ON THE RADIO) Roxy Music
16 21 4 BEST FRIEND / STAND DOWN MARGARET The Beat
17 28 2 ONE DAY I'LL FLY AWAY Randy Crawford
18 20 4 BANK ROBBER The Clash
19 10 4 BIKO Peter Gabriel
20 13 9 UPSIDE DOWN Diana Ross
21 22 3 I WANT TO BE STRAIGHT Ian Dury & The Blockheads
22 - 1 MASTERBLASTER (JAMMIN') Stevie Wonder
23 14 7 PRIVATE LIFE Grace Jones
24 - 1 GENERALS AND MAJORS XTC
25 - 1 BAGGY TROUSERS Madness
26 33 2 UNITED Judas Priest
27 24 8 9 TO 5 (MORNING TRAIN) Sheena Easton
28 19 7 GIVE ME THE NIGHT George Benson
29 16 7 SANCTUARY New Musik
30 23 8 BURNING CAR John Foxx
31 37 2 IT'S ONLY LOVE Elvis Presley
32 - 1 I OWE YOU ONE Shalamar
33 26 8 SLEEPWALK Ultravox
34 25 7 FUNKIN' FOR JAMAICA Tom Browne
35 29 9 OOPS UPSIDE YOUR HEAD The Gap Band
36 27 10 BABOOSHKA Kate Bush
37 30 5 C30 C60 C90 GO Bow Wow Wow
38 34 3 SUMMER FUN Barracudas
39 40 2 CIRCUS GAMES Skids
40 32 4 MARIE MARIE Shakin' Stevens
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Twelve months ago, Cliff Richard's We Don't Talk Anymore was slugging it out with ELO's Don't Bring Me Down at the top of the Official UK Top 40 and my own EG chart for September 1979. Fast forward a year and the battle is renewed; last time both acts eventually reached #1....but will history repeat itself? All Over The World does well to climb from #4 to runners-up spot, but looks to have run its race as far as the summit is concerned. Another single from the Xandau soundtrack makes the Top 10, as ONJ's sublime Magic rises 11 to #7. Those looking for possible chart champs of the future might see the #14 debut of Queen's latest opus as significant...or will Stevie Wonder have a say? Or even Madness?

 

[phoenix123]

Wow. Two #1s so far for Cliff!

I think my Cliff love peaks in 1982 and he may even have a chance at #1 with The Only Way Out and Where Do We Go From Here.

 

[Eric Generic]

Wow. Two #1s so far for Cliff!

I think my Cliff love peaks in 1982 and he may even have a chance at #1 with The Only Way Out and Where Do We Go From Here.

For me, it might just be We Don't Talk / Carrie / Dreamin' - but we'll see when 1981 and 1982 come around and dig those hits out again.

 

[Hairycub1969]

"Wired for sound" could be where it peaks for me!