Pop Idol - The 2023 Return

It does feel that these formats are obsolete in 2022. I pray Simon Cowell doesn't go anywhere near this- he's an extremely dated stereotype these days.
Agreed, especially with this new face he has now. I kinda miss the old style when things weren't so engineered and tainted. Everything these days feels so scripted and forced. The old Popstars and Pop Idol shows felt more real and organic.
 
I would much prefer Popstars to come back! Especially now there’s such a gap in the marker, there’s literally no big boy/girl/mixed pop groups around just now.
I am interested to see what 'Real Like You' have been working on - although I still hate the name. Their acapella's have been really good. Ideally I'd love popstars, Pop Idol and Fame Academy back
 
I would like them to alternate between Pop Idol and Popstars each year with each show having a completely different panel. That way the fatigue won’t set in too soon.

2023 Popstars Mixed group.
2024 Pop Idol solo winner.
2025 Popstars Girl group.
2026 Pop Idol solo winner.
2027 Popstars Boy band.
2028 Pop Idol solo winner.
 
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I think there’s such a fine line with these shows between keeping everything exactly the same for years upon years, like they have with Britain’s Got Talent which now seems so stale and changing absolutely everything each run like they did with The X Factor which just made it seem like they had zero faith in the format.
 
I would like them to alternate between Pop Idol and Popstars each year with each show having a completely different panel. That way the fatigue won’t set in too soon.

2023 Popstars Mixed group.
2024 Pop Idol solo winner.
2025 Popstars Girl group.
2026 Pop Idol solo winner.
2027 Popstars Boy band.
2028 Pop Idol solo winner.
When you vary it, it feels more special, if that makes sense? As if you are really competing for something, and the viewers are really investing in something.
 
Some of ITV's moves - giving its timeslot to Starstruck in January, and scrapping the live shows to cut costs - would seem to indicate that The Voice is nearing the end of its useful life.

Obviously they need to replace it with something, but I can't help feeling the way we consume both TV and music has moved on too far from the heyday of talent shows. A revival of Pop Idol/Popstars/X Factor would have to mean a serious adjustment to expectations.
 
Depends what is linked into it, I guess.
Something tangible, such as Eurovision, or a TV show, or a tour. Something where we will see them again.
Ramon Roselly won DSDS (German Pop Idol) in 2020, and he's doing well - but that's schlager - a genre linked to TV (i.e. to a generation that watch TV). Having said that, DSDS will have its final series next year.
Pop Idol has nostalgia linked to it, though. It wasn't run into the ground in the UK.
 
Pop Idol has nostalgia linked to it, though. It wasn't run into the ground in the UK.
It wasn't run into the ground because Michelle McManus' win killed its momentum after just two series, and it was quickly replaced by The X Factor - which was ultimately run into the ground. I'm not sure audiences see any major distinction between the two.
 
Michelle winning didn’t kill the momentum. With that logic, Steve winning the first season of XFactor would have buried the show after a single season.

It was clear Simon wanted a bigger piece of the pie with his own show rather than appearing on someone else’s. And ITV wanted Cowell regardless of what the show was.
 
It wasn't run into the ground because Michelle McManus' win killed its momentum after just two series, and it was quickly replaced by The X Factor - which was ultimately run into the ground. I'm not sure audiences see any major distinction between the two.

Michelle winning didn’t kill the momentum. With that logic, Steve winning the first season of XFactor would have buried the show after a single season.

It was clear Simon wanted a bigger piece of the pie with his own show rather than appearing on someone else’s. And ITV wanted Cowell regardless of what the show was.
There is a biography of Simon Cowell which suggests he sabotaged judging decisions to end up with a lacklustre bunch of finalists and pushed Michelle for the win because he knew she would be commercially unsuccessful and he wanted to launch The X Factor instead.
 
I can remember an editorial during the selections for Series 2 titled 'Why do girls hate girls?' that keyed in on the major voting demographic and how they were trying to advance more girls as they struggled so much first time, and I think they ended up with fewer than before?

Roxanne and the gravelly voiced blonde girl, Suzanne?, were the Michelle season weren't they? They should've walked it.
 
There is a biography of Simon Cowell which suggests he sabotaged judging decisions to end up with a lacklustre bunch of finalists and pushed Michelle for the win because he knew she would be commercially unsuccessful and he wanted to launch The X Factor instead.
I completely believe this.
 
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