Popjustice Battle of the Legendary Divas - THE CHER SHOW!!!

#49
Then Came You (1974)
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High Score: 9.1 @berserkboi
Low Score: 5.7 @mokitsu
Average Score: 7.547

Chart Positions: US #1 UK #29

After over a decade of hits and more Billboard Hot 100 chart entries than any other woman Dionne Warwicke (As she was known at the time) finally reached #1 in 1974 Then Came You duet with RnB group The Spinners. I say 'duet' but TBH this is the Dionne show. A few ad-libs aside The Spinners are totally inconsequential on this track.

Having left Scepter Records in 1970 and moved to Warner Brothers five a $5m deal Dionne entered the 70's with a huge amount of momentum but after her first album flopped and then duo Bacharach and David split up leaving her without the writers and producers who had guided her career up to that point. A legal battle ensued and by the mid 70's her recording career was in a slump.

She continued to be a big concert draw though and it was whilst playing with The Spinners at Caesar's Palace that famed Philadelphia producer Thom Bell came up with the idea for a duet. It was recorded swiftly once the tour was over reached #1 by October of 1974.

Strangely this did nothing much to revive her career and she continued to struggle on then charts until a move to Arista in the late 70's lead to some of the biggest hits of her career which we'll be coming to (Much) later hopefully.

The Spinner had a string of hits US throughout the 70's and a UK #1 in 1980 with Working My Way Back To You. They were known as The Detroit Spinner this side of the Atlantic as we already had our own Spinners who were something a lot different.

I was totally obsessed with Dionne Warwick as a teenager. In the early 90's she was my favourite singer in the world. I played the couple of Greatest Hits tapes I had constantly and was gutted when she cancelled her show at The Palladium because of the Gulf War. I was really familiar with her 60's material and owned quite a few of her 80's MOR albums so was really surprised when I finally discovered this song and that it has been a huge #1 hit. It had passed me by completely. It's a great slice of pop/RnB which has been pretty much forgotten these days. Probably deserved to leave round about now and was always going to Dionne's first elimination. She's done amazingly to get this far with all songs intact but the best is still to come.

 
#48
Nutbush City Limits (1973)
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High Score: 10 @berserkboi @Remorque
Low Score: 4 @Riiiiiiiii
Average Score: 7.558
Chart Positions: US #22 UK #4

It's very hard to tell just how famous Tina Turner would be now if it wasn't for her gigantic 80's comeback. Whilst she and Ike were RnB pioneers and a hugely popular live act their chart success was extremely spotty and the handful of classic songs they did release were unevenly spread across nearly 15 years with no consistent period of hits. Even there most popular records only seemed to be make an impact on one side of the Atlantic or the other. That finally changed with Nutbush City Limits in 1973.

Considering what a notorious control freak he was it's surprising to learn that by the early 70's Tina was writing (And being credited with) a large amount of their output. She wrote 9 out of 10 songs on their 1972 album Feel Good and of course this, her most famous composition and one of their most successful records ever.

Released in June 1973 it was a worldwide smash, making the Top 10 across Europe including a #4 peak in Britain and #22 on the pop charts in the US. It was one of their last hits as Tina finally left Ike in 1976.

As compositions go this is a very strange one and certainly an unlikely record to catch on with an international audience. An autobiographical lyric recalling the small Tennessee town she grew up in (pop 249) it consists of a chorus that's simply the title repeated numerous time and verses that are made up of list of childhood memories. Somehow this resonated with audiences worldwide helped along I'm sure by Tina's soaring typically committed vocal.

In it's honour a section of the local highway Number 19 (As mentioned in the lyric) was renamed Tina Turner Highway in 2002 and the song has become a bizarre phenomenon in Australia where a line dance called The Nutbush is peformed throughout the country.

Please be prepared for distressing scenes of white people dancing.



I've never been a big fan of this track. It's lack of tune and extremely repetitive nature do nothing for me and I find it's huge success baffling. But then you see Tina and the Ikettes perform it live and just have to accept that they could make anything sound amazing!!!

 
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This rate is bittersweet. I feel guilty because I've been the lowest scorer for many songs that left. But it's also sweet because all my low scores are leaving first, and I still have my entire top 20.
 
Ah yes. Nutbush City Limits was my lowest rated Tina song (and it was still a 7), so it seems right to me that it's the first of her songs to leave actually. The performance is good, there's some cool guitar stuff going on, but the song itself is a bit run-of-the-mill.
 
#47
Move Over Darling (1963)
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High Score: 10 @Reboot
Low Score: 6 @Eric @Daniel_O @abael
Average Score: 7.576

Chart Positions: UK #8

From her hit film of the same name Move Over Darling was the last substantial success of Doris' 20 year chart career. Charting at #8 in the UK it unaccountably failed to chart anywhere in the US for reasons I can't seem to discover.

It was co written by her son Terry Melcher who went on to have a successful career as a producer working with The Byrds and The Beach Boys amongst others. Legendary diva Darlene Love sings back up.

The songs is best known to my generation as a hit by Tracey Ullman during her short lived recording career in the early 80's. It also reached #8 in 1982 an became her last ever Top 10 hit as well. Let's hope Jess Glynne releases a version soon.



I'm surprised that this isn't Doris' last song standing. Now that she only the rather twee Que Sera, Sera (Whatever Will Be, Will Be) left in the running with the lovely Ms day be our next diva to get the chop???

 
This is a cute pop song, and with my 7.5 I seem to agree pretty much exactly with the average of the other voters.
Tracey Ullman's version really is nearly identical. Which you can interpret as the song having a timeless quality...or that it is so much on the basic side that it can be sung by anyone. I think both interpretations are valid.
 
I spit out my coffee reading this!

How? Why? It's iconic!

His choreography is about him. It isn't done to service the story or enhance character development it's all about Bob Fosse making everyone else as 'Bob Fosse' as possible and ultimately hogging the limelight for himself. He choreographs dances the same way Tarantino directs films, making sure that no one ever forgets who's in charge.

I also just think it's really ugly.

Give me Hermes Pan any day of the week.

 

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