Popjustice Battle of the Legendary Divas - THE CHER SHOW!!!
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I don’t think this suits Dusty’s voice at all. It shows up all her weaknesses.
Cher’s version is great.
Shirley would KILL it.
Cher’s version is great.
Shirley would KILL it.
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Kidding, love y'all.
The problem with this song is not Dusty's voice, if anything it's that it takes a while to get going. Shirley's constant oversinging would kill the song dead. No no no.
I like Cher's version though.
Kidding, love y'all.
The problem with this song is not Dusty's voice, if anything it's that it takes a while to get going. Shirley's constant oversinging would kill the song dead. No no no.
I like Cher's version though.
Dusty is iconic, the look, the songs, the story but I'm sorry her voice is meh.
She's too polite, clipped, i just don't get how people can call her a soul singer. There's no grit, no letting loose.
I wish she had a bit of Lulu's fight and tenacity in her singing. She's just a bit too Jeanette McDonald for me
She's too polite, clipped, i just don't get how people can call her a soul singer. There's no grit, no letting loose.
I wish she had a bit of Lulu's fight and tenacity in her singing. She's just a bit too Jeanette McDonald for me
I just feel it's such a big song it needs a big voice. It also sound really old fashioned even for it's time.
So much of Dusty's material from this time is really cool and modern where as YDHTSYLM is so obvious a big old middle of the road Italian ballad.
Shirley would have been great because was never cool and big old middle of the road Italian ballads are totally her jam.
Plus, of course, she has the range.
So much of Dusty's material from this time is really cool and modern where as YDHTSYLM is so obvious a big old middle of the road Italian ballad.
Shirley would have been great because was never cool and big old middle of the road Italian ballads are totally her jam.
Plus, of course, she has the range.
ddddd I love Dustys voice. It's all about the husk. That slightly damaged sound that sells the lyrics.
Dusty is one of the few artists I mention when people ask me about the best singers of all time. As brilliant with pop material as with soul. I would have preferred to rate the ingenious In Private over Nothing Has Been Proved, but alas.
Son of a Preacher Man can leave though. That song leaves me completely unmoved.
Son of a Preacher Man can leave though. That song leaves me completely unmoved.
To me the vulnerability in Dusty’s voice is much more soulful than any amount of power belting could be.
I love much of Dusty's music but I'm not a fan of here voice at all. I find it really thin. A bit whiny and nasal. It's all toppy, Pete. This is totally fine on pop or a wistful romantic song but is totally lacking when surrounded by a whole orchestra or going for high notes she can barely reach.
I always think I must be hearing something totally different to everyone else when they rave about her singing because to it's the least appealing aspect. I love everything about her apart from the voice.
I should point out I own every single Dusty album and when it comes time for her to leave will be posting multiple Baby Clyde Favourites, I just won't be raving about her singing.
I always think I must be hearing something totally different to everyone else when they rave about her singing because to it's the least appealing aspect. I love everything about her apart from the voice.
I should point out I own every single Dusty album and when it comes time for her to leave will be posting multiple Baby Clyde Favourites, I just won't be raving about her singing.
I have thoughts. But will save them for a later date.
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I would say it's a lot to do with timing. Delaying a note or stretching it out. There's a tension there. An excitement because you don't know whats coming next.
You once described Dusty to me as Ruby Murray singing the songs of Aretha Franklin which totally sums it up.
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Oh my god what are you doing here?
Firstly, Tina's River Deep, Mountain High is one of the best songs EVER? How come that it's already out?
There is so much passion, joy and feeling in this song and in her singing how could you miss this? And then this beautiful melody?
Then, Dusty's voice thin? I've been thinking now that the best Tina songs are out I'm rooting for Dusty and then this? And Son of a Preacher Man can leave now?
What is going on here? Where are the guys I know and who has replaced them?
Take Me Home and Over the Rainbow can leave now. Better sooner than later.
Firstly, Tina's River Deep, Mountain High is one of the best songs EVER? How come that it's already out?
There is so much passion, joy and feeling in this song and in her singing how could you miss this? And then this beautiful melody?
Then, Dusty's voice thin? I've been thinking now that the best Tina songs are out I'm rooting for Dusty and then this? And Son of a Preacher Man can leave now?
What is going on here? Where are the guys I know and who has replaced them?
Take Me Home and Over the Rainbow can leave now. Better sooner than later.
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Take Me Home (1979)
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High Score: 10 @Remorque @mump boy @Riiiiiiiii @abael
Low Score: 6 @Daniel_O @Filippa
Average Score: 8.388
Chart Positions: US #8
Cher does disco and it is of course magnificent.
It will come as no surprise to anyone who has been around Popjustice for the last 15 years or so that I may be a bit of a Cher fan. Whilst her musical output has often been a bit patchy there is no denying that her style has always been top notch and when Cher and disco combined the looks were always going to be sensational. Take Me Home produced one of the the best photo shoots in history and the greatest album cover of all time which I have been relentlessly promoting for over a decade now.....
The record's pretty great as well. Maybe we should talk about that!
By the late 70's Cherilyn was in her early 30's and had been a start since she was a teenager and yet in that time her career had had many ups and down. Each major period of her career is often deemed a comeback, because there had been fallow years immediately preceding them. That is certainly true of her 1979 disco reinvention.
Never much an album artist - They tended to flop even with giant hits on them - Cher's recent run had been particularly disappointing. Having not bothered the Top 40 since 1974, three of the four albums released during this period didn't chart at all. The one that did reached the dizzying height of #153. With her recording career was going nowhere and her TV show cancelled it was time for a change.
The last few records had been in a more rock vein trying to push her as a serious musician but that's not what the public wanted from their favourite fashion plate. Janet Maslin of The Village Voice wrote, "Cher is just no rock and roller ... Image, not music, is Cher Bono's main ingredient for both records and TV." Obviously that would change a decade later but at this time disco era was in full swing and after much cajoling she was finally persuaded to follow the crowd.
She was signed to the world's pre-eminent disco label Casablanca home to Queen of Disco and future Legendary Diva, Donna Summer along with Village People, Parliament and Kiss whose lead singer Gene Simmons she was dating during this period. At first reluctant to record in this genre she was pressured into it by the label and teaming up with hot producer Bob Esty, who had already worked on hits for Donna and Barbra, ended up with her first Top 10 hit for 5 years.
Take Me Home reached #8 on the Hot 100 and #2 on the dance chart. The single went Platinum and the album of the same name went Gold. It doesn't seem to have been released in the UK???
Needless to say her recording career went immediately down the dumper and it wasn't until 1987 that she conquered the charts again but obvs we'll be coming to that later.
You'll all know that Sophie Ellis Bextor took this song into the UK Top 10 for the very first time in 2001 when a slightly rewritten version became her debut solo release.....
I severely underscored this. I mean I was voting on the record itself which I love but not as much an many other Cher songs in the competish. What I forgot to do was add extra points for the cover and this performance from her 1979 TV Special Cher... and Other Fantasies (Enjoy). God I LOVE her so much............
Take Me Home (1979)
High Score: 10 @Remorque @mump boy @Riiiiiiiii @abael
Low Score: 6 @Daniel_O @Filippa
Average Score: 8.388
Chart Positions: US #8
Cher does disco and it is of course magnificent.
It will come as no surprise to anyone who has been around Popjustice for the last 15 years or so that I may be a bit of a Cher fan. Whilst her musical output has often been a bit patchy there is no denying that her style has always been top notch and when Cher and disco combined the looks were always going to be sensational. Take Me Home produced one of the the best photo shoots in history and the greatest album cover of all time which I have been relentlessly promoting for over a decade now.....
The record's pretty great as well. Maybe we should talk about that!
By the late 70's Cherilyn was in her early 30's and had been a start since she was a teenager and yet in that time her career had had many ups and down. Each major period of her career is often deemed a comeback, because there had been fallow years immediately preceding them. That is certainly true of her 1979 disco reinvention.
Never much an album artist - They tended to flop even with giant hits on them - Cher's recent run had been particularly disappointing. Having not bothered the Top 40 since 1974, three of the four albums released during this period didn't chart at all. The one that did reached the dizzying height of #153. With her recording career was going nowhere and her TV show cancelled it was time for a change.
The last few records had been in a more rock vein trying to push her as a serious musician but that's not what the public wanted from their favourite fashion plate. Janet Maslin of The Village Voice wrote, "Cher is just no rock and roller ... Image, not music, is Cher Bono's main ingredient for both records and TV." Obviously that would change a decade later but at this time disco era was in full swing and after much cajoling she was finally persuaded to follow the crowd.
She was signed to the world's pre-eminent disco label Casablanca home to Queen of Disco and future Legendary Diva, Donna Summer along with Village People, Parliament and Kiss whose lead singer Gene Simmons she was dating during this period. At first reluctant to record in this genre she was pressured into it by the label and teaming up with hot producer Bob Esty, who had already worked on hits for Donna and Barbra, ended up with her first Top 10 hit for 5 years.
Take Me Home reached #8 on the Hot 100 and #2 on the dance chart. The single went Platinum and the album of the same name went Gold. It doesn't seem to have been released in the UK???
Needless to say her recording career went immediately down the dumper and it wasn't until 1987 that she conquered the charts again but obvs we'll be coming to that later.
You'll all know that Sophie Ellis Bextor took this song into the UK Top 10 for the very first time in 2001 when a slightly rewritten version became her debut solo release.....
I severely underscored this. I mean I was voting on the record itself which I love but not as much an many other Cher songs in the competish. What I forgot to do was add extra points for the cover and this performance from her 1979 TV Special Cher... and Other Fantasies (Enjoy). God I LOVE her so much............
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So for @Disco Blister to get his wish, all he needs is Fairy Godmother @Filippa to wish for it also! LOL
Instant success!
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Licence To Kill
High Score: 10 @KamikazeHeart @Remorque @abael @Reboot @Baby Clyde
Low Score: 6 @Daniel_O @Butterfly
Average Score: 8.317
Chart Placings: UK #6
Remember when Bond themes were good???
Written by Jeffrey Cohen, Walter Afanasieff and Narada Michael Walden from the 1989 Bond film of the same name this unusually soulful theme tune is all about Miss Gladys' amazing vocal and that key change that sends shivers down your spine.
Initially Eric Clapton was approached for record the theme for License To Kill but thankfully the project fell through and rather than turn to the contemporary popstars who had been chosen for A View To Kill and The Living Daylights they went for a more oldchool approach and called in a legendary diva.
Having Grammy winning success the year before with Love Overboard and a sold out Farewell Tour Gladys left The Pips for a solo career at the end of 1988. It couldn't have got off to a better start with this track becoming a giant hit around Europe including Top 5 in Denmark, Norway, The Netherlands, Ireland, Germany, Belgium and Switzerland. It was #1 for 8 weeks in Sweden and gave Gladys her last Top 10 in in the UK at #6. It didn't chart on the Billboard Hot 100 at all!!!
Legendary Diva Patti was featured over the closing credits with a dreadful Diane Warren song called If You Asked Me To which later became a big hit for legendary diva Celine.
The B Side to Licence To Kill is called Pam.
At 5.15 this is the longest Bond song ever and every bit of it is magnificent. It has everything that a Bond themes needs without sounding like a woeful parody or being a tuneless dirge like ALL recent attempts. Gladys' vocal is everything. Without sounding like a broken record would this make the charts these days? If Mary J Blige is given the theme to No Time To Die (We can but dream) will she storm the charts worldwide? We're going to get stuck with Dua Lipa aren't we. To think bloody Sam Smith won and Oscar for his shitfest of a theme. This wasn't even nominated.
Anyway Miss Gladys is out. With 1 spot left who else will fall before they we reach the Top 20?
Wait. For some reason I completely missed this elimination and now I AM SAD. It's a gorgeous song.
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A fucking travesty of huge proportions that it didn't make the top 10 either...