Popjustice Battle of the Legendary Divas - THE RESULTS!!! #12 | The Popjustice Forum

Popjustice Battle of the Legendary Divas - THE RESULTS!!! #12

Discussion in 'Charts, rates etc' started by Baby Clyde, Jun 17, 2019.


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    In the grand tradition of legendary divas passing on the baton to the next generation, this rate will give our adoring PJ audience exactly what they have been clamouring for. Two titans of the forum teaming up to bring joy to millions.

    One brings class the other sex appeal.

    One has credibility the other cool.

    One, decades worth of pop knowledge and a curmudgeonly attitude whilst the other is a multilingual breath of fresh air.

    One is an aging icon with a devoted following of homosexualists, the other is a fresh young talent (With a devoted following of homosexualists).



    One has legs for days and is still rocking well past retirement age, the others star power overwhelms the forum.



    Contrary to rumours there have been no behind the scenes catfights or diva tantrums. In fact they have nothing but the utmost respect for each other. There may even have been kissing!!!



    But enough of this love fest and onto what really matters. Let the battle commence.
     
    Last edited: Sep 25, 2019
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    Having been around these parts since before some of you were even born I thought it was about time I actually hosted my very first rate. Assuming some kind of spreadsheet skills may come in handy I lured the lovely @berserkboi to lend a hand with the promise of intense discussion of Legendary Divas.

    I feel this thread has something for everyone. The PJ Oldies can wallow in the golden glow of nostalgia whilst the PJ Kidsies can learn that pop music was not invented by Britney Spears (Or even Madonna).

    This Legendary Divas rate is to celebrate the careers of some of the greatest female artists of all time. The pioneers that lead the way for the likes of Gaga, Katy and Ariana.

    It took me a very long to decide exactly who was to be included but the general criteria are...

    1 - They should have had a successful (Mostly) solo career that started before 1970.
    2 - They have enjoyed hit records in at least 3 different decades.
    3 - Their success should be international and not just confined to one country or region.

    The idea is to honour longevity rather than just success. A star who's huge success is only confined to one decade or era doesn't qualify. The legendary divas in this rate were all able to sustain a career over multiple generations. Many are still selling out stadiums today after 50 or even 60 years in the business.

    Being the pedant I am I've obsessed over the lineup and song selection for months. The songs chosen are supposed to give an overview of their entire careers. The list is not a comprehensive view of their greatest hits (In fact many of their greatest hits may be missing) but is supposed to highlight particular successes from each era. No two songs from the same album or year will be included, no consecutive singles are allowed and less famous songs from an entirely different period may take the place of more familiar recordings if they better illustrate a particular time.

    DO NOT EXPECT RULES OF INCLUSION TO BE 100% CONSISTENT.

    Every career is different and it's impossible to make every choice fit exactly within the confines of the rules.

    I've thought long and hard over what's on the list. If you want to make suggestions feel free to do so but it's unlikely to change now unless you make a VERY persuasive case.

    The rules:

    - You should all be well versed in the voting rules by now but if not - score each song out of 10 and give one 11 only, and that to your prized winner; or the song you think may need your help to go all the way!

    - Scoring-wise – I've never understood why anyone needs more than 0 -11 for scoring. That's 12 different scores that you're able to give out. But the general consensus seems to be that decimals are allowed so we'll go with that for now (I may change this) - I will accept all scores up to 10 including one decimal point behind them (ie I’ll take 9.5, 9.6, 9.7, 9.8 but not 9.25 or 9.75) . SCORES SHOULD BE SENT TO @berserkboi. Feel free to add me as well but if you want them counted I'm not your man.

    - NO COMMENTARY. PLEASE, NO COMMENTARY. This is my first rate I don't know what I'm doing. I don't have the time to wade through all your witty comments and choose the best. Save them for the discussion after each elimination. Right them dawn as you go and save them until the right time if you like but don't send them to me.

    - Troll votes will be discarded or asked to be altered so please don’t try it, especially as it takes away enjoyment from other participants.

    - Voting closes sometime around midnight on August 5th GMT Time (Or whatever time @berserkboi wants them sent).

    SONG LIST - Alphabetically and chronologically.

    As most records are before the time of music videos many are live performances so you can see our divas in all their glory. Studio recordings are on Spotify list below. If there are any mistakes or missing tracks please flag up

    Aretha Franklin -
    Respect
    I Say A Little Prayer
    Until You Come Back To Me (That's What I'm Gonna Do)
    Freeway of Love
    A Deeper Love
    A Rose Is Still A Rose

    Barbra Streisand -
    Don’t Rain On My Parade
    Stoney End
    The Way We Were
    Evergreen (Love Theme from "A Star Is Born")
    Woman In Love
    Don't Lie To Me

    Billie Holiday -
    God Bless The Child
    Strange Fruit
    Lady Sings The Blues

    Cher -
    Bang Bang (My Baby Shot Me Down)
    Gypsys, Tramps & Thieves
    Take Me Home
    If I Could Turn Back Time
    Believe
    Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! (A Man After Midnight)

    Dionne Warwick
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    Walk On By
    Say A Little Prayer
    Then Came You
    Heartbreaker

    Dolly Parton -
    Dumb Blonde
    Jolene
    Here You Come Again
    9 to 5
    I Will Always Love You

    Doris Day -
    Sentimental Journey
    Secret Love
    Que Sera, Sera (Whatever Will Be, Will Be)
    Move Over Darling

    Dusty Springfield -
    I Only Want To Be With You
    You Don't Have To Say You Love Me
    Son of a Preacher Man
    Nothing Has Been Proved

    Edith Piaf
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    La Vie en rose

    La Foule
    Non, je ne regrette rien

    Ella Fitzgerald -
    A-Tisket-A-Tasket
    How High The Moon
    Someone To Watch Over You

    Gladys Knight -
    Every Beat Of My Heart
    I Heard It Through The Grapevine
    Midnight Train To Georgia
    Licence To Kill

    Judy Garland -
    Somewhere Over The Rainbow
    Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas
    Get Happy

    Lulu -
    Shout
    To Sir With Love
    The Man That Sold The World
    Independence

    Peggy Lee -
    Why Don't You Do Right?
    Fever
    Is That All There Is?

    Shirley Bassey -
    Goldfinger
    Big Spender
    Diamonds Are Forever
    History Repeating

    Tammy Wynette -
    Stand By Your Man
    'Til I Can Make It On My Own
    Justified & Ancient (Stand by The JAMs) (Not available on Spotify)

    Tina Turner -
    A Fool In Love
    River Deep Mountain High
    Nutbush City Limits
    What’s Love Got To Do With It
    The Best
    Goldeneye


     
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2019

  3. Elimination List

    #71 - Every Beat Of My Heart
    #70 - Sentimental Journey
    #69 - A-Tisket-A-Tasket
    #68 - Secret Love
    #67 - A Fool In Love
    #66 - I Heard It Through The Grapevine
    #65 - Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas
    #64 - Someone To Watch Over You
    #63 - Lady Sings The Blues
    #62 - How High The Moon
    #61 - To Sir With Love
    #60 - Is That All There Is?
    #59 - God Bless The Child
    #58 - Til I Can Make It On My Own
    #57 - Gimme! Gimme! Gimme! (A Man After Midnight)
    #56 - The Man That Sold The World
    #55 - Shout
    #54 - Dumb Blonde
    #53 - La Foule
    #52 - Until You Come Back To Me
    #51 - Independence
    #50 - Justified And Ancient
    #49 - Then Came You
    #48 - Nutbush City Limits
    #47 - Move Over Darling
    #46 - Stand By Your Man
    #45 - Stoney End
    #44 - Get Happy
    #43 - Don't Rain On My Parade
    #42 - Strange Fruit
    #41 - Evergreen (Love Theme from 'A Star Is A Born')
    #40 - Midnight Train To Georgia
    #39 - Freeway Of Love
    #38 - History Repeating
    #37 - Why Don't Do Right
    #36 - A Deeper Love
    #35 - A Rose Is Still A Rose
    #34 - Nothing Has Been Proved
    #33 - The Way We Were
    #32 - La vie en Rose
    #31 - Here You Come Again
    #30 - Don't Lie To Me
    #29 - Bang Bang (My Baby Shot Me Down)
    #28 - The Best
    #27 - River Deep Mountain High
    #26 - Big Spender
    #25 - Whatever Will Be Will Be (Que Sera Sera)
    #24 - Walk On By
    #23 - Heartbreaker
    #22 - License To Kill
    #21 - I Say A Little Prayer
    #20 - Diamonds Are Forever
    #19 - You Don't Have To Say You Love Me
    #18 - Take Me Home
    #17 - Over The Rainbow
    #16 - GoldenEye
    #15 - Son Of A Preacher Man
    #14 - Non, je ne regrette rien
    #13 - I Only Want To Be With You
    #12 - Goldfinger
     
    Last edited: Nov 13, 2019 at 8:56 PM
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  5. That's probably for the best.
     
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  6. I have no idea what this is but I already love it.
     
  7. This is gonna be epic!
     
  8. Please don't forget Grace Jones xx
     
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    invertedbutterfly Moderator

    Oh my god. Amazing.
     
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  10. The list will be revealed #soon.
     
  11. Please remember who is hosting and lower your expectations.

    Thankfully Beserky will be around to save the day.
     
  12. I'm already exhausted and it hasn't even started yet.

    What was I thinking???
     
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  15. I love all the effort put into this, so please do take this with a grain of salt as it's very easy to go for nitpicking rather than appreciating the bigger picture. However, this question must be raised...

    Where is Liza?!
     
  16. Amazing.

    Not being able to vote for Cher's best song Love & Understanding makes me sad though.

    ..also. Say A Little Prayer twice?
     
  17. Now this is a quandary….. which Bond song do I give my 11 to?

    It wouldn't be fair having Losing My Mind in a rate.
     
  18. By my criteria Liza doesn't qualify. She's a showbiz legend but has only had one short period of chart success in the late 80's and even that was mostly confined to the UK.
     
  19. Probably removed for fear of winning this whole thing hands down.

    If we're talking icons though... Juliette Greco? The icon to end all icons. And what a life!

    I will try to participate.
     
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