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Your Pretty Brains

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I made the mistake of clicking on one of those Twitter links and reading the comments. The amount of Starbucks-sipping "just keep voting!" Hillary-loving "it's Bernie's fault!!!" Democrats is infuriating me. Sis we ain't got time to wait for the Democrats to get 60 seats in the Senate to do something, and even then I honestly doubt they would.
 
Babyface

Babyface

Artemisia said:
An abortion bill everyone knew would fail was put up to a vote and it failed because there aren’t enough Dems in the Senate. Nobody cared, it was out of the news in like a day. So yeah, urging people to vote is 100% more productive than empty gestures that change nothing. Republicans cannot win elections and in order for that to happen people need to vote. Nothing else matters. It’s not a coincidence that abortion will be banned in red states and continue to be legal in blue states. Anything else is a massive cope.
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Yes people need to vote, but in practice we have seen that people (particularly young people) are not on board with "vote Blue no matter who" - we've tried it and it's not resonating. The Democratic party has as much responsibility to get people to vote by putting forward candidates who don't fucking suck, and who people will actually turn out to vote for, as people do to vote. I was fully on the "hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evils" train in 2016 and 2020 but that isn't enough anymore, clearly it is not working so they need to try something else like...putting forward candidates that people are excited about voting for. Which I realize is much easier said than done but it's not like they're even trying at this point.
 
Your Pretty Brains

Your Pretty Brains

he/him/basic cishomo
Babyface said:
Yes people need to vote, but in practice we have seen that people (particularly young people) are not on board with "vote Blue no matter who" - we've tried it and it's not resonating. The Democratic party has as much responsibility to get people to vote by putting forward candidates who don't fucking suck, and who people will actually turn out to vote for, as people do to vote. I was fully on the "hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evils" train in 2016 and 2020 but that isn't enough anymore, clearly it is not working so they need to try something else like...putting forward candidates that people are excited about voting for. Which I realize is much easier said than done but it's not like they're even trying at this point.
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Amén to this. God.
The fact is Democratic leadership should be fucking guns blazing right now and they're not.
 
Sanctuary

Sanctuary

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Artemisia said:
when they lost the election that mattered with respect to the current SCOTUS.
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Imagine if someone had enough common sense in 2016 to stop someone as unqualified and unelectable as Hillary Clinton from being handed in private the nomination!

I know people will still read this and react poorly because they still have an emotional desire for a Hillary win, but it truly was maybe the most fundamentally worst decision the Democratic Party could have done and which set this all in motion.
 
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Mirwais Ahmadzaï

Mirwais Ahmadzaï

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The more I've processed this the more I've spiraled, and it's really fucking hard not to be fatalistic, but that's just where my head's been with things anyway. I keep thinking about the climate crisis and the gulf between the rich and the poor and how the worse and more unstable things get, the more volatile this unhinged minority will be and the more flippant and cruel (somehow!) the ruling class will be. Maybe 5-10 years ago I would've thought progress would gradually, history has a progressive arc or whatever, and demographic shifts (dying whites) would help, etc. But truthfully, we just don't have enough time and the chaos of the last decade seems like it's on an exponentially more turbulent trajectory.

I'm glad I saw @sexercise's post because it was a valuable reminder to focus on what we can control in our own lives and communities. That's really where we can make the most progress and change the most minds, which is going to be really, really important in the years to come regardless of party rule.

 
Your Pretty Brains

Your Pretty Brains

he/him/basic cishomo
Mirwais Ahmadzaï said:
The more I've processed this the more I've spiraled, and it's really fucking hard not to be fatalistic, but that's just where my head's been with things anyway. I keep thinking about the climate crisis and the gulf between the rich and the poor and how the worse and more unstable things get, the more volatile this unhinged minority will be and the more flippant and cruel (somehow!) the ruling class will be. Maybe 5-10 years ago I would've thought progress would gradually, history has a progressive arc or whatever, and demographic shifts (dying whites) would help, etc. But truthfully, we just don't have enough time and the chaos of the last decade seems like it's on an exponentially more turbulent trajectory.

I'm glad I saw @sexercise's post because it was a valuable reminder to focus on what we can control in our own lives and communities. That's really where we can make the most progress and change the most minds, which is going to be really, really important in the years to come regardless of party rule.

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I've gotten jack shit done at work today, myself, just can't stop reading and refreshing and thinking about that ticking clock that is getting louder and louder. We are witnessing the endgame of the American system itself. I completely agree that continuing to work within this same shitty system is going to just be a continuance of this. We need to mobilize immediately. I reckon I'll be onioning tonight.
 
Applause

Applause

I wish I had more eloquent words to say right now, but it’s past midnight in my part of the world and I didn’t want to go to bed without saying to you Americunties that many of us Internationalunties are thinking of you. I’m so sorry you have to go through this and hope you can turn this back around because my blood is boiling.
 
Someboy

Someboy

Sanctuary said:
Imagine if someone had enough common sense in 2016 to stop someone as unqualified and unelectable as Hillary Clinton from being handed in private the nomination!

I know people will still read this and react poorly because they still have an emotional desire for a Hillary win, but it truly was maybe the most fundamentally worst decision the Democratic Party could have done and which set this all in motion.
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I think the emotional response comes knowing you’re more right than wrong, and less than any attachment to Hillary at this point.

I can’t add anything substantial to what so many of you have posted today, but I have been thinking this week about The Left in general - where it is, what it wants, where it goes. I have said and do believe the US is fundamentally more conservative than we like to think in this thread, but what I can’t figure out how to fix is changing this perception that The Right has any policies meant to meaningfully change lives for the better. The Right has a powerful narrative with no policies, The Left has powerful policies I believe in with no narrative. And the narrative is winning. I think part of the reason people still have an emotional response to Obama and Hillary is because they fulfilled a perceived ideal of identity politics and meritocracy, and still cling to it despite its fallacy. Only Bernie with Medicare For All and AOC with the Green New Deal have been effective on The Left in putting forth something tangible to grab on to, and both were met with disdain and ignorance.

(And in Bernie’s case, I can’t exempt myself, because I know if you dig through this thread I have some bad, bad posts.)
 
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