But you literally said it would be unfair for the solo- English crowd to ever win PJXtra. I am just saying there is an argument to make for the oldies one. I could not care less about the comeback corner. Half of them no longer participate in PJRetro after the rules were changed there. I do not see any point in using that as a valid argument so I disagree with you on that. But I accept you can view it like that. Like I said before. In my alternate PJ reality quadruple crowns are a things. If some people want to be strict. Well be strict. For me a contest is a contest. Whether I am in the minority or majority I could not care about at this point. This has been way to drawn out.