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♥ Quirky Pop Rate: Sophomore | #37: "mama, this ain't quirky"

Discussion in 'Charts, rates etc' started by soratami, Jan 11, 2021.

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    Welcome to Quirky Pop Rate: Sophomore! The sequel to last year's Quirky Pop Rate: The Debuts, which, for those who didn't participate, was all about this:

    While the first rate was about the start of these artists' careers, with debut albums released between 2008 and 2014, here we'll follow their evolution, and focus on a selection of sophomore albums from 2011 to 2017. These albums are quite varied and range from the huge critical/commercial hits like Melodrama and Halcyon (Days), to the artists taking straightforward pop approach like Electra Heart and Sucker, to the artists honing and refining of their signature sound(s) like in Ceremonials and The Electric Lady to unexpected turns like Trouble In Paradise and Anxiety, and more. All in all we'll be rating selected songs from sixteen albums. And while I'm sure it'll be interesting for people who participated in the first rate to see how things go this time around, it goes without saying that those who didn't take part are very welcome to join as well.



    The Artists

    Thirteen of the sixteen artists included in the first rate make their return - Charli XCX, Diana Vickers, Ellie Goulding, Florence + the Machine, Foxes, Janelle Monáe, La Roux, Ladyhawke, Little Boots, Lorde, Marina & the Diamonds, Natalia Kills and Santigold. And taking the spot of the remaining ones, missing either because they never actually released a sophomore album (Nicola Roberts and Sky Ferreira) or for equally obvious reasons (the other one), we have three newcomers - Halsey, Jessie Ware and Katy B. These three artists were chosen because they fit well with the rest of the rate's "cast", both in terms of their music and career timeline, because they released high quality, well received, and impactful sophomore albums, and because they continue to be well loved in the forum to this day (and because I'm a big fan of all three nn).



    Song Selection

    Each of the sixteen albums in the rate is represented by six songs, which were selected with the help of forum members who will also be providing album write-ups, which will be posted through the voting period. This selection of songs aims to provide a good representation of each album, through a mix of key singles, big fan favourite album tracks, and songs that show a different side of the album/artist. In addition of these selections, there's also one extra bonus track which I couldn't help but to include, as you'll see below.


    What's New

    For those who participated in the first rate, you can expect this one to follow a pretty similar format, but here are the main ways in which it will be different:

    ♥ Obviously, the new visual style, courtesy of @vague. Going from last rate's homemade arts and crafts style to this one's fancy sleek gifs represents how a few of these artists shifted from from a more DIY approach to their music to a more commercially appealing sound and image (it's actually just a coincidence but it makes sense when you think about it).
    ♥ The elimination posts will be a bit more streamlined, in an attempt to make this a bit less time consuming for me and for the rate to move at a quicker pace.
    ♥ Instead of asking people to submit their favourite songs from each album not in the rate like last time, there will be a short, optional Side B Rate featuring artists that could have been included in the main rate, but more on that below.


    The Rules

    Rate the songs from 0 to 10, including one 11, and PM me your ballot. Commentary is very welcome, but please use the template provided with the song list, as it'll make my life a lot easier when organising everything. Regarding decimals, I would prefer if everyone stuck to .25/.5/.75, though .1-.9 is fine too, but don't go scoring songs like 7.81 please. And please be sensible with your scores. Even if you're not a big fan of one or more of these artists/albums, I don't want to see ballots completely tanking any of the sections, so please ensure your average for each section is >4 (which is not a lot to ask, given we're only rating arguably the best six songs from each album).


    The Deadline

    February 24
    23:59 latest timezone

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    Please vote in the
    Favourite Songs Not In The Rate poll
    Open until mid-May
     
    Last edited: Apr 10, 2021
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    Florence + the Machine
    Ceremonials

    (28 October 2011)
    Only If For A Night
    Shake It Out
    What The Water Gave Me
    Never Let Me Go
    No Light, No Light
    Spectrum

    Santigold
    Master of My Make-Believe

    (24 April 2012)
    GO! (feat. Karen O)
    Disparate Youth
    God from the Machine
    The Riot's Gone
    The Keepers
    Big Mouth

    Marina & the Diamonds
    Electra Heart

    (27 April 2012)
    Bubblegum Bitch
    Primadonna
    Power & Control
    Fear and Loathing
    Teen Idle
    Radioactive

    Ladyhawke
    Anxiety

    (25 May 2012)
    Girl Like Me
    Sunday Drive
    Black White & Blue
    Vaccine
    Blue Eyes
    Anxiety

    Ellie Goulding
    Halcyon

    (5 October 2012)
    My Blood
    Anything Could Happen
    Figure 8
    Hanging On
    Burn
    Goodness Gracious

    Little Boots
    Nocturnes

    (3 May 2013)
    Motorway
    Broken Record
    Shake
    Every Night I Say a Prayer
    Satellite
    Headphones

    Natalia Kills
    Trouble

    (3 September 2013)
    Problem
    Stop Me
    Boys Don't Cry
    Saturday Night
    Devils Don't Fly
    Trouble

    Janelle Monáe
    The Electric Lady

    (6 September 2013)
    Givin' 'Em What They Love (feat. Prince)
    Q.U.E.E.N. (feat. Erykah Badu)
    Electric Lady (feat. Solange)
    Primetime (feat. Miguel)
    Dance Apocalyptic
    Ghetto Woman

    Diana Vickers
    Music To Make The Boys Cry

    (13 September 2013)
    Music to Make Boys Cry
    Cinderella
    Boy in Paris
    Smoke
    Better in French
    Blame Game

    Katy B
    Little Red

    (7 February 2014)
    5 AM
    Aaliyah (feat. Jessie Ware)
    Crying for No Reason
    Everything
    Still
    Sky's the Limit

    La Roux
    Trouble In Paradise

    (18 July 2014)
    Uptight Downtown
    Kiss And Not Tell
    Cruel Sexuality
    Sexotheque
    Tropical Chancer
    Let Me Down Gently

    Jessie Ware
    Tough Love

    (24 October 2014)
    Tough Love
    You & I (Forever)
    Cruel
    Kind Of...Sometimes...Maybe
    Want Your Feeling
    Champagne Kisses

    Charli XCX
    Sucker

    (15 December 2014)
    Sucker
    Break the Rules
    Boom Clap
    Doing It (feat. Rita Ora)
    Body of My Own
    Famous

    Foxes
    All I Need

    (5 February 2016)
    Better Love
    Body Talk
    Cruel
    Amazing
    Feet Don't Fail Me Now
    Shoot Me Down

    Halsey
    Hopeless Fountain Kingdom

    (2 June 2017)
    100 Letters
    Eyes Closed
    Alone
    Now Or Never
    Bad At Love
    Strangers

    Lorde
    Melodrama

    (16 June 2017)
    Green Light
    Sober
    Homemade Dynamite
    The Louvre
    Supercut
    Perfect Places

    Bonus Track
    (1 May 2013)
    Just Desserts


    Spotify Playlist



    (Missing Just Desserts)


    Youtube Playlist




    PM list (inc. Side B)
    Please use the following template as it'll make my life easier when organising commentary and preparing elimination posts (the ♥ is a placeholder that will be replaced with your username when posting commentary):

    Song ♥ (score) "commentary"

    Only If For A Night ♥ ()
    Shake It Out ♥ ()
    What The Water Gave Me ♥ ()
    Never Let Me Go ♥ ()
    No Light, No Light ♥ ()
    Spectrum ♥ ()

    GO! (feat. Karen O) ♥ ()
    Disparate Youth ♥ ()
    God from the Machine ♥ ()
    The Riot's Gone ♥ ()
    The Keepers ♥ ()
    Big Mouth ♥ ()

    Bubblegum Bitch ♥ ()
    Primadonna ♥ ()
    Power & Control ♥ ()
    Fear and Loathing ♥ ()
    Teen Idle ♥ ()
    Radioactive ♥ ()

    Girl Like Me ♥ ()
    Sunday Drive ♥ ()
    Black White & Blue ♥ ()
    Vaccine ♥ ()
    Blue Eyes ♥ ()
    Anxiety ♥ ()

    My Blood ♥ ()
    Anything Could Happen ♥ ()
    Figure 8 ♥ ()
    Hanging On ♥ ()
    Burn ♥ ()
    Goodness Gracious ♥ ()

    Motorway ♥ ()
    Broken Record ♥ ()
    Shake ♥ ()
    Every Night I Say a Prayer ♥ ()
    Satellite ♥ ()
    Headphones ♥ ()

    Problem ♥ ()
    Stop Me ♥ ()
    Boys Don't Cry ♥ ()
    Saturday Night ♥ ()
    Devils Don't Fly ♥ ()
    Trouble ♥ ()

    Givin' 'Em What They Love (feat. Prince) ♥ ()
    Q.U.E.E.N. (feat. Erykah Badu) ♥ ()
    Electric Lady (feat. Solange) ♥ ()
    Primetime (feat. Miguel) ♥ ()
    Dance Apocalyptic ♥ ()
    Ghetto Woman ♥ ()

    Music to Make Boys Cry ♥ ()
    Cinderella ♥ ()
    Boy in Paris ♥ ()
    Smoke ♥ ()
    Better in French ♥ ()
    Blame Game ♥ ()

    5 AM ♥ ()
    Aaliyah (feat. Jessie Ware) ♥ ()
    Crying for No Reason ♥ ()
    Everything ♥ ()
    Still ♥ ()
    Sky's the Limit ♥ ()

    Uptight Downtown ♥ ()
    Kiss And Not Tell ♥ ()
    Cruel Sexuality ♥ ()
    Sexotheque ♥ ()
    Tropical Chancer ♥ ()
    Let Me Down Gently ♥ ()

    Tough Love ♥ ()
    You & I (Forever) ♥ ()
    Cruel ♥ ()
    Kind Of...Sometimes...Maybe ♥ ()
    Want Your Feeling ♥ ()
    Champagne Kisses ♥ ()

    Sucker ♥ ()
    Break the Rules ♥ ()
    Boom Clap ♥ ()
    Doing It (feat. Rita Ora) ♥ ()
    Body of My Own ♥ ()
    Famous ♥ ()

    Better Love ♥ ()
    Body Talk ♥ ()
    Cruel ♥ ()
    Amazing ♥ ()
    Feet Don't Fail Me Now ♥ ()
    Shoot Me Down ♥ ()

    100 Letters ♥ ()
    Eyes Closed ♥ ()
    Alone ♥ ()
    Now Or Never ♥ ()
    Bad At Love ♥ ()
    Strangers ♥ ()

    Green Light ♥ ()
    Sober ♥ ()
    Homemade Dynamite ♥ ()
    The Louvre ♥ ()
    Supercut ♥ ()
    Perfect Places ♥ ()

    Just Desserts ♥ ()


    Side B (optional)

    On A Mission ♥ ()
    I Follow Rivers ♥ ()
    Sun Of A Gun ♥ ()
    This Kiss ♥ ()
    30 Minute Love Affair ♥ ()
    Angels ♥ ()
    Home ♥ ()
    Further Away (Romance Police) ♥ ()
    The Apple ♥ ()
    Give Me Your Everything ♥ ()
    Cut Your Teeth ♥ ()
    Leave A Trace ♥ ()
    Borderline ♥ ()
    I’m In Control ♥ ()
    Gemini Feed ♥ ()
    Free ♥ ()
    Elizabeth Taylor ♥ ()
    Phenomenal Woman ♥ ()
    You Want The Sun ♥ ()
    Company ♥ ()
    Cool Girl ♥ ()
    Paper Love ♥ ()
    Want You Back ♥ ()
    Oh Woman Oh Man ♥ ()
    ‘71 Charger ♥ ()
    Lady Powers ♥ ()
    Girlfriend ♥ ()
    Falling Into Me ♥ ()
    Golden Child ♥ ()
    holy terrain ♥ ()
    Number One Fan ♥ ()
    religion (u can lay your hands on me) ♥ ()
     
    Last edited: Feb 3, 2021
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    In addition to the main rate, there's also an optional Side B Rate, featuring songs from the sophomore albums of artists that didn't make the main rate but would have generally fit, released through the 2010s. Aside from serving to spotlight a group of other artists, this extra rate also works as a window to how pop music sounds and trends evolved through the decade.

    The rules and deadline are the same as the main rate's, and you can also pick an 11. Although it's optional, I'd appreciate it if everyone tried to participate, as it's quite a short song list (32 songs, which only take 2 hours to go through) and features a lot of huge PJ faves such as Carly Rae Jepsen, Tinashe, Allie X, Christine & the Queens and MUNA, as well as some excellent songs by slightly less well known artists, which might make for great discoveries for those unfamiliar with them.


    The Songs

    2010
    Gabriella Cilmi - On A Mission

    2011
    Lykke Li - I Follow Rivers
    Oh Land - Sun Of A Gun

    2012
    Carly Rae Jepsen - This Kiss
    Paloma Faith - 30 Minute Love Affair
    The xx - Angels

    2013
    Austra - Home
    Lissie - Further Away (Romance Police)
    V V Brown - The Apple

    2014
    Alexandra Stan - Give Me Your Everything
    Kyla La Grange - Cut Your Teeth

    2015
    CHRVCHES - Leave A Trace
    Tove Styrke - Borderline

    2016
    AlunaGeorge - I’m In Control
    BANKS - Gemini Feed
    Broods - Free
    Clare Maguire - Elizabeth Taylor
    Laura Mvula - Phenomenal Woman
    Niki & The Dove - You Want The Sun
    Tinashe - Company
    Tove Lo - Cool Girl

    2017
    Allie X - Paper Love
    HAIM - Want You Back
    London Grammar - Oh Woman Oh Man
    Loreen - ‘71 Charger
    Vera Blue - Lady Powers

    2018
    Christine and the Queens - Girlfriend
    Let’s Eat Grandma - Falling Into Me
    Say Lou Lou - Golden Child

    2019
    FKA twigs - holy terrain
    MUNA - Number One Fan
    Shura - religion (u can lay your hands on me)


    Spotify Playlist




    Youtube Playlist



    (PM list in the previous post)
     
    Last edited: Jan 14, 2021
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    #97: Now Or Never
    #96: Vaccine
    #95: Blue Eyes
    #94: Burn
    #93: Just Desserts
    #92: Big Mouth
    B #32: Home
    B #31: Give Me Your Everything
    #91: Devils Don't Fly
    B #30: You Want The Sun

    #90: Smoke
    #89: Bad At Love
    #88: Eyes Closed
    #87: Sucker
    #86: Better In French
    #85: Kinda...Sometimes...Maybe
    #84: Anxiety
    #83: Alone
    B #29: Angels
    #82: Black White & Blue
    B #28: Cut Your Teeth
    B #27: Borderline
    #81: Hanging On

    #80: Cruel Sexuality
    #79: Stop Me
    #78: 100 Letters
    B #26: Sun Of A Gun
    #77: Broken Record
    #76: Kiss And Not Tell
    #75: Famous
    #74: Boys Don't Cry
    B #25: I'm In Control
    #73: Still
    #72: Headphones
    #71: Tropical Chancer

    #70: God From The Machine
    #69: Everything
    #68: Girl Like Me
    #67: The Riot's Gone
    B #24: Oh Woman Oh Man
    #66: Givin' 'Em What They Love (feat. Prince)
    #65: Break The Rules
    #64: Body Of My Own
    #63: GO! (feat. Karen O)
    #62: Shake
    #61: Sunday Drive

    #60: Satellite
    #59: Shoot Me Down
    B #23: Golden Child
    #58: Ghetto Woman
    B #22: holy terrain
    B #21: Free
    #57: Trouble
    B #20: Elizabeth Taylor
    B #19: '71 Charger
    B #18: Falling Into Me
    #56: Sky's The Limit
    B #17: 30 Minute Love Affair
    #55: Problem
    #54: Fear And Loathing
    B #16: Lady Powers
    #53: Sexotheque
    #52: Every Night I Say A Prayer
    #51: Amazing

    #50: Feet Don't Fail Me Now
    #49: Blame Game
    #48: Primetime (feat. Miguel)
    #47: Bubblegum Bitch
    #46: Better Love
    #45: Uptight Downtown
    #44: Goodness Gracious
    #43: The Keepers
    B #15: Phenomenal Woman
    #41 (1): Cruel
    #41 (2): Dance Apocalyptic

    B #14: Company
    #40: Want Your Feeling
    #39: Motorway
    #38: Teen Idle
    #37: You & I (Forever)
     
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2021 at 11:04 PM
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    Just in case.



    You can post now!
     
  6. My body is ready! I'll let my body ta-a-a-alk!
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    I wish I could give an 11 in the main rate and an 11 in the BSide section!!!

    Let's tank each other's faves!

    The shade!
     
  7. nn I literally said

    Side B is basically a separate, optional (mini) rate, the songs in it aren't competing against the ones in the main rate.
     
  8. Oh boy, at least my 11 was obvious in the first rate because I stanned True Romance really hard, so the other albums didn't have any chance. This time, I'm already having dilemmas... the amount of classics we are going to rate is significant!
     
  9. this SCREAM

    Couple of my favourite ever albums here so I will try to find time to participate!
     
  10. I don't know who will get my 11 in the main rate, but the side B one is prettty obvious.

    Homewrecker and Controversy not making it I will sue!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  11. I missed the Freshman rate but will try to do this one. I'm sure there will be a bunch of new discoveries for me.
    Amazing graphics already. Whew.
     
  12. Hmm, the template having those little hearts but what if I don't love the song? (ddd I plan to be a bit more ruthless this time around because I was far too nice in round 1)

    Also mess at Alexandra being in the Side B section and not her sister Inna.
     
  13. This time around I'm having my Lorde revelations pre-rate as I've recently come to realize Green Light is incredible (for most of you it's an old favorite but for me it's like a fresh new discovery)
     
  14. I'm still not 100% sure what'll be getting my 11 either (in either of the rates). I do know I'll be once again throwing 10s left and right though nn

    Controversy was considered, but honestly it was almost guaranteed to come dead last had it been included, so it's for the best it's not here.

    Using the the heart as the rate's "symbol" came from two of the albums having a heart in the cover:

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    I decided there would be a five week voting period, and it was a pretty crazy coincidence that the deadline would end up falling exactly... on Valentine's Day.

    As for Inna... there's a limited amount of artists that could be in the Side B rate (as I wanted to keep it one third as long as the main rate), and Alexandra Stan was the one people mentioned when I asked for artist suggestions. I think Inna and her are more or less on the same lane, so it'd feel a bit superfluous to include both, and I'd say Alexandra is probably the "quirkier" of the two.
     
  15. I really need to catch up in the first part ddddd.
    Looking forward to this! Halsey will probably snatch my 11, but I made a lot of discoveries in the first one, and I'm excited for that to happen again.
     
  16. And speaking of the Side B rate, some of you might remember Yelle, Rosalía and Sky Ferreira were originally going to be included, but in the end I decided I would make some cuts to keep it to 32 songs like I originally intended to. Yelle and Rosalía were cut because I felt like they would be at a disadvantage being the only two artists that didn't sing in English, and Sky Ferreira because, well, while it would have been nice to have her in this rate, it wouldn't really make sense to include a song that's not part of a sophomore album when that's the whole theme of the rate.

    The three songs that almost made it:





     
  17. Too ahead of its time for certain people!!!!!! And it would have been my 11 so maybe it's a sign
     
    OspreyQueen, vague, pop3blow2 and 3 others like this.
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