R&B BOP QUEENS RATE | I'm Out

londonrain

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NUMBER THIRTY-FIVE?! Outlasted by the number of genuinely dull songs still in the rate?

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#35


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Foolish
Ashanti 2/9
7.949
11 @berserkboi
| 10 @elektroxx @Tchelitchew me @vague @lalaclairi_ @Robsolete @RUNAWAY @godspeed @jamesjupiter @slaybellz @Remorque | @livefrommelbs @Holly Something
1 @GimmeWork | 1.75 @CasuallyCrazed | 4 @Empty Shoebox @Verandi

Trajectory:
5: #22 (8.3)
10: #22 (8.75)
15: #39 (7.893)
20: #40 (7.813)
25: #44 (7.55)
30: #41 (7.692)
35: #35 (7.953)
All: #35 (7.949)

Foolish was released in January 2002 as Ashanti's solo debut single (released three months after her first musical appearance, in Ja Rule's Always On Time). It was written by Ashanti, 7 Aurelius and Irv Gotti, and produced by the latter two, and it sample 80s R&B group DeBarge's Stay With Me and The Notorious B.I.G.'s 1995 hit One More Chance/Stay With Me remix. Notorious B.I.G. is also posthumously featured in an alternate version of the song, Unfoolish. Foolish is probably the biggest hit in the rate, having spent ten weeks(!) at #1 in the US and also charting at #4 in the UK, #6 in Australia and top 10/20 in several other countries. It was the second biggest song of 2002 in the US (after How You Remind Me by N*ck*lb*ck), and it kept What's Luv from hitting #1, making Ashanti the first female artist to hold the top 2 spots of the Hot 100 chart at once. Not everyone has that.

Now what can I say about this mess of a result? Foolish is an absolute classic in every sense of the word, and it deservedly received the most 10s out of any of the songs outside the top 30. It obviously deserved a lot better than #35. Without @GimmeWork and @CasuallyCrazed's disgusting scores it would have landed at #24, which to be honest would still have been too low, but at least it'd be a bit more acceptable.

Utter Foolishness:
@GimmeWork (1) From the production to the vocals this song has always been a snoozefest for me.

@Verandi (4) I… never understood the success this got. It's an album track for me, absolutely nothing special and it goes on forever.

Slightly Foolish:
@Rei Ayanami (6) I can appreciate what this song was for Ashanti, but I can never listen to this without immediately wanting to switch to BIG’s One More Chance remix. It’s catchy, but doesn’t leave much of an impression on me today.

Unfoolish:
@londonrain (8) Remember when Ashanti was #1 and #2 on the Hot 100 with this and What’s Luv? Iconic.

@Sprockrooster (9) A bit played too much, but damn that nostalgia alone makes it thrive nonetheless

@Music Is Life (9) Love the production. And her vocals. And the melody. SO I love this. I need to talk about whatever that sound in the production is – is that a maraca? It kinda sounds like a maraca. I love that. And the sound of the song kinda feels very rainforesty, like that’s what I picture with her walking around and singing. Amazing.

@Untouchable Ace (9.1) This meant so much to everyone. It was all over the radio. Good for her.

@livefrommelbs (9.5) A stone-cold classic. This takes me back to like early, early high school. Such a tune.

@Holly Something (9.5) Obviously a classic but I don't love it as much as some others.

@lalaclairi_ (10) A timeless classic. "Unfoolish" is equally iconic.

@RUNAWAY (10) I can’t believe how much I still love this song. It’s such a classic, and literally never gets old. It’s still so fresh to this day.

@godspeed (10) ""See, my days are cold without you/But I'm hurting while I'm with you." I don't think a lot of opening lines can make me smile and fill me up with such a warm sentiment of joy and nostalgia the way the ones of "Foolish" manage to. It's not even uplifting or anything, those are quite depressing when you think about it, but there's just something SO sweet about this song that I could not really put into words. This is one of my favorite R&B songs of all time - and one of my favorite songs of all time, period - and it was my initial and immediate choice as a 11. (eventually another song got it, but "Foolish" deserves it just as much)"

@slaybellz (10) Just a timeless classic that I still listen to on a regular basis.

@Remorque (10) I remember being so fucking impressed with this debut single. This is how you effectively build a song around a sample without it being all too obvious. Her fantastic performance ultimately elevates this song to a fucking 10.

@berserkboi (11) Unless something else takes over this one is the one! After the listen through, this will probably need my 11 more than Ciara or Kelis so here it is!

The video:


Legends only:

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#34

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Good Stuff
Kelis 7/9
7.951

10 @vague @lalaclairi_ @Sprockrooster @godspeed @jamesjupiter @Conan @Remorque | 9.5 @slaybellz
3 @londonrain | 4 @abael | 4 @Bslg17 @Empty Shoebox
My score: 7

Trajectory:
5: #40 (7.6)
10: #55 (7.81)
15: #45 (7.721)
20: #37 (7.893)
25: #37 (7.734)
30: #38 (7.803)
35: #33 (7.977)
All: #34 (7.951)

Good Stuff was released in November 1999 as the second single from Kelis's debut album Kaleidoscope. It was written and produced by The Neptunes and features vocals from rapper Pusha T, who at the time went by Terrar, and was part of the duo Clipse, who were affiliated with The Neptunes. Good Stuff didn't chart in the US (then again the US was never Kelis's strongest market, only three of her songs charted in the Hot 100, which is pretty shocking), but it was a moderate hit in Europe, where it was released a lot later than its original release, in June 2000, having charted at #19 in the UK and in the top 20 in a few other countries.

Good Stuff was one of my two remaining 7s (the other being Jerk Ribs) so I'm not mad it's out. It's a cool The Neptunes production, but I can't say it's a favourite, I guess it doesn't quite pop as much as it should. Good Stuff only made it to the top 35 very close to the end of the voting period, and there's not a lot of commentary for it either, which is somewhat surprising at this point in the game.

Part II promo!:
@Untouchable Ace (7.6) This made it in over 'Bounce'? Gerl what?

Good stuff:
@Rei Ayanami (8) Very nice. Kinda bridges the sound of her debut to the sound she had during the Tasty era.

@Verandi (8) Groovy!

@berserkboi (9.1) Weaker by Kelis standards, still great!

@Music Is Life (9.25) The song absolutely lives up to the title. I love her voice.

@Sprockrooster (10) The Neptunes in their prime. Love the vocals of Kelis here too.

@godspeed (10) "I believe this is one of the most understated moments in Kelis' discography and one of the crown jewels of Kaleidoscope, her best album in my eyes. The chemistry between her and Pusha T works so well and they both manage to turn a production that is good but very simple and which could easily turn faceless into something incredible. The David LaChapelle-drected music video is also sick as fuck and iconic. The fact that Kelis never was considered as one of the most influential, original and innovative artists of her generation by the GP hurts my soul because she really is and "Good Stuff" is the perfect proof of that."

The video:


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