Part of me wonders if they let Chad live because of all of the five surviving characters being women. I went into the film thinking only the twins and maybe Gale were in danger, so by the time Chad's "death" happened I was on board with it. As much as I love the actor / he's dreamboat, it got a roar of laughter when he was carted out alive at the end.
Scream 7 *SPOILERS*
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Hayden just got back into acting, Courteney has asked to leave this franchise in the past, and there’s no guarantee Neve ever comes back. It makes sense why they wanted to keep the Core 4 around for future installments.
I’m not even bothered by it as the character development was done so well that the 4 of them now feel just as essential to me as the OG3 ever did.
I personally would’ve been fine with them offing Kirby but I know that’s an uncommon opinion and I’ve seen quite a few of you say that would be disrespectful to bring her back just to kill her off. Gale is the only original cast member, Chad is the only male survivor, and there’s way too much narrative left to be told with Sam and Tara. That may sounds like it points to Mindy and call me biased all you want, but I would absolutely not have been ok with them killing off the one black woman and queer character to ever survive one of these historically overly-white movies, especially when bringing Kirby back would’ve felt like she was being replaced by a blonde white version who happened to be a cop. Not on my watch.
I can see why all the survivors making it can be disappointing but Queen Anika served me enough of an emotional kill to be satisfied. I honestly think she had the most impactful mid-out friend death since Tatum herself, even surpassing my good sis Cici Cooper which I never thought would be possible. I think everyone surviving will make the deaths that much more emotional when they do come.
I’m not even bothered by it as the character development was done so well that the 4 of them now feel just as essential to me as the OG3 ever did.
I personally would’ve been fine with them offing Kirby but I know that’s an uncommon opinion and I’ve seen quite a few of you say that would be disrespectful to bring her back just to kill her off. Gale is the only original cast member, Chad is the only male survivor, and there’s way too much narrative left to be told with Sam and Tara. That may sounds like it points to Mindy and call me biased all you want, but I would absolutely not have been ok with them killing off the one black woman and queer character to ever survive one of these historically overly-white movies, especially when bringing Kirby back would’ve felt like she was being replaced by a blonde white version who happened to be a cop. Not on my watch.
I can see why all the survivors making it can be disappointing but Queen Anika served me enough of an emotional kill to be satisfied. I honestly think she had the most impactful mid-out friend death since Tatum herself, even surpassing my good sis Cici Cooper which I never thought would be possible. I think everyone surviving will make the deaths that much more emotional when they do come.
You had me at “Queen Anika” (I got teary eyed even the second time when she said “I don’t wanna die” on the ladder. Also a huge yes to everything you said, particularly why it was important not to kill Mindy. (I would have been gutted if they killed Kirby though…).
I understand the desire to keep around those established characters (although having somebody get stabbed through the throat... twice... and then be making conversation minutes later did feel cheap), but I wish they'd put more work into making us care more about the characters that they were willing to kill off.
The best kills in the franchise are those where you're really rooting for the characters to survive, and that was lacking here. Instead it was plainly obvious who was the canon fodder and who were the designated survivors. There were some truly fantastic set pieces however. I just could have done with the stakes feeling a little higher.
The best kills in the franchise are those where you're really rooting for the characters to survive, and that was lacking here. Instead it was plainly obvious who was the canon fodder and who were the designated survivors. There were some truly fantastic set pieces however. I just could have done with the stakes feeling a little higher.
This is the main problem with letting the survivors of 5 all survive this. When you have 3 new people in a friend group of 7 (Anika, Ethan, Quinn), you have to assume at least one is a potential killer and the other two are sure-fire kills. While I think Anika and Quinn made the most of their minimal screen time, at no point did I think "they'll survive this film". Having hot neighbor survive was interesting because my mind immediately thought they wouldn't make Sam's love interest a killer in two back to back films, so had written him off as dead pretty soon after meeting him.
Though I guess it makes for a unique pivot from Scream 2's sequel stakes. Sidney saw her boyfriend and best friend (Hallee) be murdered in the second film, plus her only remaining friend from Woodsboro (Randy) only two years after her best friend was murdered (by her boyfriend). This drove her to isolate herself for both her own protection / to not allow relationships to form only to potentially cause them harm. Sam and Tara experienced horrific violence and trauma, but technically the only "victim" somewhat close to them is Anika since Quinn/Ethan were actually killers.
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He/Him
I've seen this mentioned a few times in here as an indication of this being a negative but...I'm pretty sure that's the point? Seeing Chad rolled out is supposed to make us laugh. He's clearly the new Dewey in that sense. Like, there's no real reason Dewey should have survived the second movie. I'd even argue the first movie as well, but I believe he was only stabbed the one time so it makes more sense. Though I'm not totally sure because he says he's been stabbed 9 times in 5, and I only count like 4 in the second movie. Point is, he gets stabbed a lot at night and doesn't bleed out before paramedics arrive when the sun has risen. So same goes for Chad. Yes, he was stabbed like 3 or 4 times each by two people but if they're in the side and relatively in the same spot that wouldn't increase blood loss, much and it seems like paramedics arrive sooner on the scene in 6 than they did in 2, but I'm not totally sure about that. Anyway, point is, this kinda thing has always been a part of Scream so having it be a criticism now is weird. And personally I love Chad just as much after two movies as I did Dewey after the first 3 or 4. So I'm really happy he survived.
And I don't think it's all that ridiculous for Sam and Tara to be relatively okay during the finale. Yeah they get stabbed, but the adrenaline of the fight will keep them going long enough to win, though it is funny they're just walking it off by the end of the movie.
Anyway, point is, I'm extremely happy the Core Four are alive and well and am very okay with them replacing the OT3 as continuous survivors for the foreseeable future. I know, it's a slasher and there should be stakes for the characters we care about, but imagine if Gale, Dewey or Sidney had died in Scream 2? That would have sucked.
This was a minor issue I had with it, that, of the 10 murder victims, Anika is the only one who 'mattered' in filmic terms - the rest were either poor bystanders, wannabe killers in their own right, or had so little screentime that there was no real sense of loss. Samara's character maybe a little bit, but you go in knowing the first character you see is going to bite it.
It was a bit cold in this sense, compounded by how violent it got in places. But I didn't want any of the Core Four, Gale or Kirby to die either, so it's a bit of a corner they found themselves in.
Loved this just as much the second time if not more. Such a blast. I had to see it in 3D this time sadly and it sucked. Only ok for the ladder scene which was kinda cool.
Also while the Subway scene is amazing I do think it would be better if the entire time we the audience and Mindy thinks the person in the Ghostface outfit is a threat but instead when the lights turn on it's actually flop ass Ethan stabbing her. Reveal one early before the finale.
Still an absolute banger of a Scream movie.
Also can anyone identify the score when the Therapist is walking towards his front door when Ghostface is there? I swear it's taken right out of the first Scream but can't place which scene.
Also while the Subway scene is amazing I do think it would be better if the entire time we the audience and Mindy thinks the person in the Ghostface outfit is a threat but instead when the lights turn on it's actually flop ass Ethan stabbing her. Reveal one early before the finale.
Still an absolute banger of a Scream movie.
Also can anyone identify the score when the Therapist is walking towards his front door when Ghostface is there? I swear it's taken right out of the first Scream but can't place which scene.
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Her patio doors were open, or the boyfriend opened the door to a delivery and didn't lock it back up?
A decent explanation. I like that we didn’t know for sure that Ghostface was in there, then we got that background blurry glimpse of him. It added to the drama!
He/him
What I've found funny a few times, but was quite apparent in the Gale sequence, was how coordinated our Ghostfaces are.
So, clearly only one of them was in the apartment, and the other was elsewhere, on the phone to Gale. But how did they know when to talk/move/run/strike a pose/do something menacing etc.
Like, how did the one on the phone know when to say certain things based on what the other Ghostface was doing in the apartment, as they wouldn't be able to see. And how did the Ghostface in the apartment know when to do certain things without knowing what the other Ghostface was saying on the phone.
And we know it can't have been the one in the apartment that she was talking to, based on the speech and movement that was happening. Kudos to GF for putting in the hours of rehearsals to get their routines ship shape.
So, clearly only one of them was in the apartment, and the other was elsewhere, on the phone to Gale. But how did they know when to talk/move/run/strike a pose/do something menacing etc.
Like, how did the one on the phone know when to say certain things based on what the other Ghostface was doing in the apartment, as they wouldn't be able to see. And how did the Ghostface in the apartment know when to do certain things without knowing what the other Ghostface was saying on the phone.
And we know it can't have been the one in the apartment that she was talking to, based on the speech and movement that was happening. Kudos to GF for putting in the hours of rehearsals to get their routines ship shape.
Across all the movies, Ghostface attacks the final girl(s) once or twice, seemingly with intent to kill her, but goes all out to position her in the house/theater/secret room/shrine at the end for the big reveal, meaning that these earlier attacks are, in fact, half-assed scare tactics?
For a film series so married to bucking/observing the rules, they've made quite a few as-yet unbroken ones of their own - Dewey never being there at the end, and now Mindy and Chad stabbed and out of working order just before the finale.
Nevertheless, I stan.
For a film series so married to bucking/observing the rules, they've made quite a few as-yet unbroken ones of their own - Dewey never being there at the end, and now Mindy and Chad stabbed and out of working order just before the finale.
Nevertheless, I stan.
I think I said it before but if they wanted to keep Chad alive they didn't need such an over-the-top 'kill'. A quick knife or two in the back (paying homage to Dewey) would have sufficed. I think most people are irked by him surviving because how brutally he was attacked. It was just overkill (without the kill).
Also, hilarious that most people in Scream 3 were out after just one stabbing. Wusses.
I'd be interested to read how they originally planned to have Sidney feature in this movie. Aside from the trophy room, which would have been rather cool to see her explore, the rest of the film didn't seem to serve her character any purpose. Even the killers had no motive to go after Sidney this time around, it was all about revenge for Sam killing their son.
Also, hilarious that most people in Scream 3 were out after just one stabbing. Wusses.
I'd be interested to read how they originally planned to have Sidney feature in this movie. Aside from the trophy room, which would have been rather cool to see her explore, the rest of the film didn't seem to serve her character any purpose. Even the killers had no motive to go after Sidney this time around, it was all about revenge for Sam killing their son.
Gale most likely spoke to 2 ghostfaces, no?
The first one must have been either Bailey or Ethan, because there's no way Quinn could have grabbed and murdered the boyfriend while talking. But then after Gale shoots through the door, it's Quinn who calls her the second time as it's her phone that rings when Gale puts her on hold ddd.
