She's Marina, We're The Diamonds, And That Was The Rate [Finalized]

It really is something that bothers me. If there's a title-track and you release it but it's not on the album, why is it a title track? Why did you release it? I don't understand. I can't immediately think of other instances - although Carly with Dedicated comes to mind sort of, but we might get that with a Side B, even though it should've been on the main album - but if it continues to be a thing I'll be upset.
It slightly bothers me, too, but it does appear on some editions of the album. However, it being excluded might have to do with the fact that it's the only officially released song that is produced solely by Marina (hence the slight demo-ish quality) in her entire discography. In reality, the production isn't bad at all and doesn't sound miles behind the rest of the album. I still wish that she included it on the standard album, though.

@Maki (7,25) dares me to make a Formation pun, but my brain's too empty at this hour: "This one caused a lot of conversation because of its lyics, which is almost ironic, considering that the initial snippet received a whole lot of praise. Not among the highs if the album, it features a bit more 'heavy' instrumental and bouncier beat which make it stand out a bit. Sonically, it's really good, but not something I would seek on my own. The 'ooh, ooh' bits near the end of the song are a nice addition."
Oh, and what was the pun about? I don't know what exactly it referred to.
 

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Oh, and what was the pun about? I don't know what exactly it referred to.
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I can’t believe you guys are calling for the rest of Love + Fear when Girls, literally one of the vilest and most misogynistic songs a female popstar has ever made, is still in this rate?!
 
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I'm not going combat against people who are more qualified to view the lyrics in Girls the way they do, that's their right but I do think it's easy to have multiple interpretations of those lyrics. I believe Marina herself has said it's a social commentary on how she viewed girls treating other girls around her and not necessarily how she feels about them. I don't know, it's a difficult one to unravel in a song the way she does, because it's always going to be abrasive when you take what you hear on the surface. It's tough. I mostly like it for its sonic value, which is why I gave it a 10 but I'm not going to shame anyone for hating it for the lyrics at the same time, even though I've always interpreted it as less of an evil as it could be viewed and has.
 
Ar least "Girls" has a great and memorable melody, which can't be said for at least 10 songs that are still in.
I'm not going combat against people who are more qualified to view the lyrics in Girls the way they do, that's their right but I do think it's easy to have multiple interpretations of those lyrics. I believe Marina herself has said it's a social commentary on how she viewed girls treating other girls around her and not necessarily how she feels about them. I don't know, it's a difficult one to unravel in a song the way she does, because it's always going to be abrasive when you take what you hear on the surface. It's tough. I mostly like it for its sonic value, which is why I gave it a 10 but I'm not going to shame anyone for hating it for the lyrics at the same time, even though I've always interpreted it as less of an evil as it could be viewed and has.
I agree 100% with this (although it didn't receive a 10 from me, it was close).
 
I didn't give Believe in Love or Handmade Heaven very good scores so they might be out sooner than expected...

I can't remember what I gave Emotional Machine, but I don't think it was high either.
 
Girls is misogynistic but it bops.


I don't really see how Better Than That is misogynistic.
I definitely could see how parts could be interpreted that way by then the bridge kind of explains?
Ddd I don't really think saying "I'm not passing judgment on her sexual life" particularly redeems the lyrics of the rest of the song, but that's just my opinion. The song also isn't particularly good,
 
Ddd I don't really think saying "I'm not passing judgment on her sexual life" particularly redeems the lyrics of the rest of the song, but that's just my opinion. The song also isn't particularly good,
I guess it's hard to judge not knowing the actual situation she is referring to.

I agree the song is pretty weak anyway.
 

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