Snakes In The Grass, It's Time To Cut The Lawn: The 2018 R&B Legends Rate (VOTING OPEN!) | The Popjustice Forum

Snakes In The Grass, It's Time To Cut The Lawn: The 2018 R&B Legends Rate (VOTING OPEN!)

Discussion in 'Charts, rates etc' started by londonrain, May 6, 2019.

  1. Last year, 31 of us pulled together to vote for some incredible ladies of R&B who released albums in 1998.

    Leading the pack were Brandy, Monica, Lauryn and Whitney - but Whitney came out on top, with a little help from that Thunderpuss remix of one of her best songs ever.





    But now it's time for the sequel.

    The R&B landscape has changed a lot in twenty years, and the R&B of 2018 is very different from the R&B of 1998 in many ways... but some legends of the game were still around turning out 10/10 material in 2018... so here we are, with a rate to honour the girls who are still here 15 years, 20 years, or even 28 years later, bringing their A-game and showing everyone else how it's done.


    Legendary girl group En Vogue finally gave us their long-delayed seventh album, showing that their vocals and consistency have not dipped from the days of their six #1 US R&B number ones.

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    R&B icon Toni Braxton gave us her ninth album, giving us classic R&B quality and grabbing her first solo Grammy nominations since 2001.

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    And the 2019 Billboard Music Awards' Icon Award recipient, the amazing Ms. Mariah Carey, really went the distance with her 2018 album Caution, putting her back into the spotlight where she belongs.

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    This rate celebrates these three influential artists and their 2018 output...


    ...but wait, there's more!

    I haven't forgotten the other ladies of R&B who started in the '90s or early '00s and were still bringing out quality material in 2018. Who knows, you might even discover some new faves!




    Okay. What do I need to do?

    Simply rate each of the songs on a scale from 0 to 10. I'll allow decimals, but keep it sensible. Nobody wants me to screw up the results because I accidentally put down 5.2642 instead of 5.6422.

    You may award one song, and one song only, a score of 11. Choose wisely.

    When you're done, send me a message (using the little envelope in the top right corner of your screen) that contains your scores for all the songs. There are no optional sections in this rate, so you must give a score to all of the songs.

    Can I rate a version that isn't on the album?

    For songs with multiple versions (e.g. single edits that differ from the album, or dance mixes that you prefer to the original) rate the version that you prefer.

    Do I have to include commentary?

    Commentary is highly encouraged, but is not mandatory.

    Sure, you can just send in a bunch of numbers, but it will make the elimination posts a lot more interesting if you tell us a bit more about why you gave the scores you did. Did Long As I Live really hit you at a vulnerable time in your life? Did Old Times make you really think about police shootings in the US? Did A No No make you want to live an NYC subway fantasy? Did Rocket make you want to do an old-school photoshoot in the desert?

    I really can't stand some of the songs in this rate. Can I still vote?

    I fully accept that you will all have differences of opinion. That's the point! Feel free to submit anyway. But if your ballot is really just trolling (like if you give zeroes to the entire Mariah album), I will throw it out.

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    VOTES ARE DUE ON
    SATURDAY, JUNE 22
    AT
    23:59 PACIFIC TIME.

     
    Last edited: May 6, 2019
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  2. Songs To Rate

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    En Vogue - Electric Café
    Release date: April 6, 2018
    Chart peaks: #14 (Billboard Independent Albums); #47 (UK Independent Albums)​

    1. Blue Skies
    2. Déjà Vu
    3. Rocket
    4. Reach 4 Me
    5. Electric Café
    6. Life
    7. Love The Way
    8. Oceans Deep
    9. Have A Seat | with Snoop Dogg | without Snoop Dogg
    10. I’m Good
    11. So Serious
    12. Luv My Thangz


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    Mariah Carey - Caution
    Release date: November 16, 2018
    Chart peaks: #5 (Billboard 200), #1 (Billboard Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums); #40 (UK Albums Chart)

    1. GTFO
    2. With You
    3. Caution
    4. A No No | album version | video edit | remix featuring Stefflon Don | remix featuring Shawni
    5. The Distance (featuring Ty Dolla $ign)
    6. Giving Me Life (featuring Slick Rick & Blood Orange)
    7. One Mo' Gen
    8. 8th Grade
    9. Stay Long Love You (featuring Gunna)
    10. Portrait
    11. Runway (video starts at 00:13)


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    Toni Braxton - Sex & Cigarettes
    Release date: March 23, 2018
    Chart peaks: #22 (Billboard 200); #33 (UK Albums Chart)

    1. Deadwood
    2. Sex & Cigarettes
    3. Long As I Live
    4. FOH
    5. Sorry
    6. My Heart (featuring Colbie Caillat)
    7. Coping | main version | Disco Killerz Remix | Eden Prince Remix
    8. Missin'
    9. Forgiven


    The Best of the Rest

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    Gabrielle - Under My Skin
    Under My Skin
    Thank You
    Show Me
    Every Step
    Shine

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    Macy Gray - Ruby
    Buddha (featuring Gary Clark Jr.)
    Over You
    White Man
    Sugar Daddy
    Jealousy

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    Marsha Ambrosius - Nyla
    Flood
    Luh Ya
    Old Times
    Never Be The Same Again
    Scorn

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    Mya - T.K.O. (The Knock Out)
    Ready For Whatever
    Damage
    You Got Me
    With You (featuring MyGuyMars)
    Down

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    Tamia - Passion Like Fire
    Leave It Smokin'
    It's Yours
    Today I Do
    When The Sun Comes Up
    Deeper


    En Vogue - Electric Café
    1. Blue Skies
    2. Déjà Vu
    3. Rocket
    4. Reach 4 Me
    5. Electric Café
    6. Life
    7. Love The Way
    8. Oceans Deep
    9. Have A Seat
    10. I’m Good
    11. So Serious
    12. Luv My Thangz


    Mariah Carey - Caution
    1. GTFO
    2. With You
    3. Caution
    4. A No No
    5. The Distance
    6. Giving Me Life
    7. One Mo' Gen
    8. 8th Grade
    9. Stay Long Love You
    10. Portrait
    11. Runway

    Toni Braxton - Sex & Cigarettes
    1. Deadwood
    2. Sex & Cigarettes
    3. Long As I Live
    4. FOH
    5. Sorry
    6. My Heart
    7. Coping
    8. Missin'
    9. Forgiven

    Gabrielle - Under My Skin
    Under My Skin
    Thank You
    Show Me
    Every Step
    Shine

    Macy Gray - Ruby
    Buddha
    Over You
    White Man
    Sugar Daddy
    Jealousy

    Marsha Ambrosius - Nyla
    Flood
    Luh Ya
    Old Times
    Never Be The Same Again
    Scorn

    Mya - T.K.O. (The Knock Out)
    Ready For Whatever
    Damage
    You Got Me
    With You
    Down

    Tamia - Passion Like Fire
    Leave It Smokin'
    It's Yours
    Today I Do
    When The Sun Comes Up
    Deeper
     
    Last edited: May 7, 2019
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  3. SPOTIFY PLAYLIST


    (missing Forgiven)​
     
    Last edited: May 6, 2019
  4. Mariah, En Vogue, Toni Braxton, Macy Gray, Mya and Gabrielle all in the same rate?

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    (No shade to the other two, I'm just not really familiar with their work)
     
  5. I was just looking at the song list, and not Colbie Caillat of all people having a feature here. Talk about random ddd
     
  6. Yeah, I never thought I'd be including Colbie Caillat in an R&B Legends rate, but that's how the world works in 2019, apparently...
     
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  7. I may do this.
     
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  8. RainOnFire

    RainOnFire Moderator

    Caution was my favourite album of 2018 and Sex & Cigarettes was in my Top 5, so I will absolutely be taking part! I haven't heard the En Vogue album or any of the extras, but judging by how much I love Mariah and Toni, I'm excited to dive in and find some gems.
     
  9. Yas at Marsha. Y'all better appreciate the art of Old Times.
     
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  10. Give The Roof 2.0, aka Giving Me Life, your 11s.
     
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  11. I'll be here

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  12. Music Is Life and vague like this.
  13. Music Is Life, AshleyKerwin and vague like this.
  14. Music Is Life, vague and berserkboi like this.
  15. You know, I am 90% there, especially to support Gabrielle (who I eventually want to do a Singles Rate for) but do I want to watch her die a slow and painful death against these forum faves.... Let me ponder for a couple of days ;)
     
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