#soon! Part Un - The 60s-00s Girl Band Debut Breakthrough Rate

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Both Not Gonna Get Us and All About Us were top 10/20 hits basically everywhere outside of the US, and while not as huge as All The Things She Said, both were pretty big moments, and it's a bit ridiculous we're seriously considering replacing them with some of the acts mentioned in the last couple of pages.

It was more aimed at Las Ketchup since that second song was a hit nowhere.

Someone mentioned new acts and I obliged with some ideas...
 
It was more aimed at Las Ketchup since that second song was a hit nowhere.

Someone mentioned new acts and I obliged with some ideas...

Instead of picking a handful of acts to replace, maybe we could just add some other groups? The original rate wasn't particularly long, and I don't think having like ten extra songs next time around would make much difference. But of course that's up to @berserkboi.
 
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Instead of picking a handful of acts to replace, maybe we could just add some other groups? The original rate wasn't particularly long, and I don't think having like ten extra songs next time around would make much difference. But of course that's up to @berserkboi.
I'd only consider this IF the acts that are added had some sort of impact in the UK, US and AUS charts & are dispersed from each decade - otherwise it will just be 'recency' (90s+) heavy which would not suit this rate...
 
And here is the 80s list based on sales/certifications!​


'80s

The Go-Go'sWe Got The Beat (only real big hit that I could find)

Bananarama - Venus (Highest seller by far but Guilty is the bop for the ages for me, ah well!)

Mary Jane Girls In My House (If included, this is closest to filling the bill)

Klymaxx Man Size Love (their bigger other hit isn't Meeting In The Ladies Room *cries forever*)

The Bangles Eternal Flame (definitely considering Walk Like An Egyptian as well)

Pepsi & Shirlie Goodbye Stranger (If they appear, this is the only thing resembling a hit they have left)

Mel and Kim - Respectable (Well and truly the one!)

Salt-N-Pepa Let’s Talk About Sex (Shoop is a close second but they will feature twice anyway with their duet with En Vogue so they just get LTAS despite me adoring them)

ExposéWhat You Don’t Know (Point Of No Return isn't the one *cries forever part 2)

Shakespears Sister - Stay (Well and truly)

Sweet SensationIf Wishes Came True (Surprisingly big hit for them)

The Cover GirlsWishing On A Star (Same, shockingly)

I don't think we have to stick with the biggest sellers if we all agree that another song is more worthy. Certainly Meeting In The Ladies Room and Point Of No Return should be the choices for their respective acts. I would also argue for Walk Like An Egyptian over Eternal Flame.

I'm with @Riiiiiiiii on Venus. Having Bananarama represented by 2 covers when they have plenty equally famous original hits seems bizarre. They are a prime example of a group who deserve more than 1 entry. Robert De Niro's Waiting, Cruel Summer or Love In The First Degree all do them far more justice.
 
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I don't think we have to stick with the biggest sellers if we all agree that another song is more worthy. Certainly Meeting In The Ladies Room and Point Of No Return should be the choices for their respective acts. I would also argue for Walk Like An Egyptian over Eternal Flame.

I'm with @Riiiiiiiii on Venus. Having Bananarama represented by 2 covers when they have plenty equally famous original hits seems bizarre. They are a prime example of a group who deserve more than 1 entry. Robert De Niro's Waiting, Cruel Summer or Love In The First Degree all do them far more justice.
I'd be happy to have Bananarama represented with Love In The First Degree along with Venus - but should maybe Pepsi & Shirlie go to make up for this decade?

Cruel Summer is great too but last time it was in a rate, people kept comparing it with the Ace of Base version, which worked to its detriment...
 
I don't think we have to stick with the biggest sellers if we all agree that another song is more worthy. Certainly Meeting In The Ladies Room and Point Of No Return should be the choices for their respective acts. I would also argue for Walk Like An Egyptian over Eternal Flame.

I'm with @Riiiiiiiii on Venus. Having Bananarama represented by 2 covers when they have plenty equally famous original hits seems bizarre. They are a prime example of a group who deserve more than 1 entry. Robert De Niro's Waiting, Cruel Summer or Love In The First Degree all do them far more justice.
Amen
 
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I'd only consider this IF the acts that are added had some sort of impact in the UK, US and AUS charts & are dispersed from each decade - otherwise it will just be 'recency' (90s+) heavy which would not suit this rate...

I'm also a fan of adding more girl groups. And The Flirts and Vanity 6 are 80s (here I am again being vain and flirty)!
Also getting rid of Tatu is not that big of a drama, no? With their problematic nature and all. It's popJUSTICE after all.

And totally on board with Walk Like An Egyptian!
 
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Yeah I'm fine with no t.A.T.u. because as a fan of their music there's only so much I need to read about how problematic they are, etc.

I'd vote for Walk Like an Egyptian for The Bangles.
I'd be fine with keeping Tatu but the drop they are due to face from part 1 to part 2 with what came to light would be quite something to witness I am sure!

Also to me, if doing extra songs - Bangles are very much who I'd be inclined to pick for the two out of this list!
 
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70s list based on Sales/Certifications


'70s

Love UnlimitedI Belong To You (only other proper hit I could find)

The Three DegreesSound Of Philadelphia or Woman In Love (the former is a #1 smash and should technically have been in part 1 so will most likely go for that)

Honey ConeStick Up (Fairly known song)

The Pointer Sisters – Fire or Jump (shocked Automatic and I'm So Excited are not bigger sellers but they definitely deserve multiple entries)

First Choice – Smarty Pants or Doctor Love or Let No Man Put Asunder (the last has become a bit of a classic)

Sister SledgeWe Are Family (He's The Greatest Dancer & Frankie also in contention)

Silver ConventionGet Up And Boogie (Yep indeed!)

High InergyLove Is All You Need

PeachesYou’ve Got All Of Me (A flop but it is all they have left, if it's even on the internet)

The NolansGotta Pull Myself Together

BaccaraSorry I’m A Lady

The EmotionsBoogie Wonderland (A feature but bop for the ages and a huge hit!)
 

The Three DegreesSound Of Philadelphia or Woman In Love (the former is a #1 smash and should technically have been in part 1 so will most likely go for that)


TSOP is more or less and instrumental with them just repeating the same line over and over again. It was a big hit but they were basically glorified backing singers on it.

Women in Love or Giving Up Giving In would be their most well know other songs. Also The Runner, Year of Decision, Dirty Old Man are all amazing.

The Pointer Sisters
– Fire or Jump (shocked Automatic and I'm So Excited are not bigger sellers but they definitely deserve multiple entries)


Fire
is an odd one because whilst it was their first big pop breakthrough and international hit it doesn't seem to be much remembered at all these days. I only discovered it properly a couple of years back and I've been a huge fan of theirs for 35 years. Their imperial phase was '80 - '85 with the Breakout album being a huge seller and giving them 4 US Top 10 hits.

Slowhand
Automatic
I'm So Excited
Jump (For Your Love)

Were all transatlantic smash hits so it feels like their entries should come from that list. Personally I'd take out Jump because of the Girls Aloud cover and include Slowhand to provide some variety. Automatic was the much bigger hit of the other 2 but any of the above (Including Fire are great choices).

Sister Sledge
We Are Family (He's The Greatest Dancer & Frankie also in contention)

We Are Family is clearly their signature hit so is obviously being included. Slightly tricky to choose the second entry because whilst He's The Greatest Dancer Top 10 in both UK & US (And in my opinion their finest moment) its another disco hit from the same album which seems a bit redundant. Frankie on the other hand is a was a huge #1 it in the UK whilst barely charting in the US but is a kind of 60's girl groups pastiche and again provides welcome variety.

All of these acts deserve at least 2 entries over those with no proper follow up to enter.
 
She/Her

First Choice – Smarty Pants or Doctor Love or Let No Man Put Asunder (the last has become a bit of a classic)

Ooh, if this is open to discussion, I'd like to throw my vote behind Doctor Love, which I've become a little bit obsessed with since the first part of the rate. It was also their second biggest hit chart-wise in the US after Armed and Extremely Dangerous.

Then again, Let No Man Put Asunder does seem a little more popular, streaming-wise...
 
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60s list based on sales/certifications/charts​


'60s


The ShirellesDedicated To The One I Love or Mama Said (two classics)

The CrystalsHe’s A Rebel (biggest hit from what I can see)

The AngelsMy Boyfriend’s Back (iconic!)

The Marvelettes – Playboy or Don’t Mess With Bill (leaning towards the latter)

Patti Labelle & The Blue BellesLady Marmalade (iconic!!)

The ExcitersDo-Wah-Diddy (any bigger hits I am not familiar with, please chime in)

The Supremes – Baby Love or Stop In The Name Of Love or You Can’t Hurry Love or a hundred other things (All classics but does anything real beat the second choice??)

The RonettesBaby I Love You (will be interesting to see how our winners do this time around)

The ChiffonsOne Fine Day (classic!)

Martha & The VandellasDancing In The Street (classic! Happy with a redo of Heatwave too considering the injustice it missed top 10!)

The Dixie CupsIko Iko or People Say (former a bit of a standard)

The Shangri-LasLeader Of The Pack (iconic)







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