Not any less shouty though.
#soon! Part Un - The 60s-00s Girl Band Debut Breakthrough Rate
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True.
I should mention their tragic Eurovision performance, but I forgot that song's title.
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Deleted member 3416
Mess at anyone wanting All The Things She Said out. Get taste.
He/Him
Geez! The t.A.T.u wars started early! Today's elimination fell into the unexpected territory for me. Stay tuned!
Booty Luv, The Saturdays and Misteeq need to go before t.A.T.u.
londonrain
Staff member
You know, I’m starting to come around to @ohnostalgia’s view of your taste...
So catching up at page 56, Shangri Las are gone already horror, that Tatu song gets worse with each listen (I know because I loved it and now I do not), why was 'that' Saturday's song the choice to vote upon (yes I skipped to now so may have missed the explanation!) when they have so many better ones, Sugababes 'Overload' is epic, and Go-Go's for the win (they won't).
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Instead of all that - you get a 90s R&B elimination!
#36
TLC – Ain’t 2 Proud 2 Beg
Average Score: 6.918
Highest Score: 10 x 3 (@soratami, @Aester, @MollieSwift21)
Lowest Score: 3 x 2 (@unnameable, @Conan)
Who here was expecting we would be losing TLC before the top 30? Certainly not me! In saying that though, the girls are getting a great deal of exposure around PopJustice these days, featuring here and a great deal on the 90s #1s rates. I have to say though despite giving this song a 9.1 as a score, their best is found elsewhere (go vote fro them in the 90s rate!).
Ain’t 2 Proud 2 Beg serves you attitude in spades, despite the girls taking a more plaintive persona in the song’s message (‘begging’ for sex from their significant other) – they deliver charisma, charm and individuality in abundance. Before the Spice Girls defined each member through a persona – you had TLC (standing for T-Boz, Lisa ‘Left-Eye’ Lopez & Chilli for the uninitiated) capturing that air of each member being very distinct in their sound and what they individually brought to create a solid united front. This would become more and more obvious as they developed their sound and refined this amazing formula. Ain’t 2 Proud 2 Beg delivers in establishing the flavour of TLC which remaining edgy and gritty in its unpolished nature, but as they develop and refine the effect –you would end up with tracks like the sublime Unpretty, Waterfalls or Dear Lie (which Ain’t 2 Proud 2 Beg isn’t quite on the level of).
Ain’t 2 Proud 2 Beg was written by Dallas Austin and Lisa Left-Eye Lopez, it earned them a Grammy in 1993 for best R&B song. It peaked at #6 on the Billboard charts and was quite the breakthrough for the girls. The Album it is from ( Ooooooohhh... On the TLC Tip) has also sold over 6 million copies worldwide and is only the third most successful album by TLC (showing truly what a powerhouse act they are). The music video has glimpses of the early 90s fashion and would look quite at home in a Fresh Prince Of Bel-Air episode. The girls play a little on this with their quirky childlike oversized outfits and props while promoting a message of Safe Sex (which they would continue in later videos also). TLC have always had a very well established social conscience, but were never too on the nose with it due to the playfulness or serious empowerment they would go for – demonstrating the appeal of both ideas on several occasions.
TLC have achieved such a great deal throughout their career, it could take 10 pages to go through it all so here are just a few highlights for you. With 65 million record sale, they are the best-selling American girl group and are second worldwide only to the Spice Girls (more on them very soon). VH1 ranks TLC as the greatest female group of all time and they were also #12 on the list of 100 Greatest Women in Music. Their album CrazySexyCool remains the only album by a female group to receive a diamond certification in America. They were honoured for their outstanding contribution to music at the 17th MOBO Awards.
As you are most likely well aware, with Lisa Left-Eye Lopez’ passing, TLC continue as a duo (Left-Eye is certainly irreplaceable) and still tour together. They released an album that is dubbed their final one last year but have confirmed they are still active. As you can probably see from this write-up, I absolutely adore these girls – and the tragic death of the amazingly talented Left-Eye still brings tears to my eyes. I will leave it here and go to our panel of esteemed voters!
Zar-Unity (7) acknowledges the qualities - One of the biggest 90's girl groups with attitude and high production. Tech: 5 Taste: 2 = 7 points. Kermit_The_Frog (8) best start dropping names for consideration for the signature round in part 2, I have too many also! - Not my favourite song (they have around 5 x easy 11s in their canon) but still pretty damn wonderful. Further Listening: Silly Ho
ComeOnGloria (6) is being cute - May need to beg for some more points... Filippa (7) is not against all R&B afterall and gives credit where due (at least) - This is not my cup of tea. But the song has a good rhythm, I love their voices - I somehow love those girls! Trouble In Paradise (5.5) has other favourites - Definitely not TLC’s best song. It lacks their ear for melody and the charisma of their best deliveries Empty Shoebox (4) was expecting something else… - Hang on, this isn't a cover of the Temptations song? I'm surprised. However, it is that early 90's R & B that I just never got on with. I don't want to upset the fans any further so I'll just say that I don't like it.
DominoDancing (6.5) recognises C.U.N.T is still in infancy stages - Good attitude, weakish hook. Just like En Vogue, not super representative of the heights they'd reach a short while later. Iheartpoptarts (7) clocks the fashion! - I think everything early 90s is Fresh Prince of Bel Air like I think everything 80s is Saved by the Bell. Unnameable (3) is being oddly shady! - thank you for making me relive this.
Ain’t 2 Proud 2 Beg serves you attitude in spades, despite the girls taking a more plaintive persona in the song’s message (‘begging’ for sex from their significant other) – they deliver charisma, charm and individuality in abundance. Before the Spice Girls defined each member through a persona – you had TLC (standing for T-Boz, Lisa ‘Left-Eye’ Lopez & Chilli for the uninitiated) capturing that air of each member being very distinct in their sound and what they individually brought to create a solid united front. This would become more and more obvious as they developed their sound and refined this amazing formula. Ain’t 2 Proud 2 Beg delivers in establishing the flavour of TLC which remaining edgy and gritty in its unpolished nature, but as they develop and refine the effect –you would end up with tracks like the sublime Unpretty, Waterfalls or Dear Lie (which Ain’t 2 Proud 2 Beg isn’t quite on the level of).
Ain’t 2 Proud 2 Beg was written by Dallas Austin and Lisa Left-Eye Lopez, it earned them a Grammy in 1993 for best R&B song. It peaked at #6 on the Billboard charts and was quite the breakthrough for the girls. The Album it is from ( Ooooooohhh... On the TLC Tip) has also sold over 6 million copies worldwide and is only the third most successful album by TLC (showing truly what a powerhouse act they are). The music video has glimpses of the early 90s fashion and would look quite at home in a Fresh Prince Of Bel-Air episode. The girls play a little on this with their quirky childlike oversized outfits and props while promoting a message of Safe Sex (which they would continue in later videos also). TLC have always had a very well established social conscience, but were never too on the nose with it due to the playfulness or serious empowerment they would go for – demonstrating the appeal of both ideas on several occasions.
TLC have achieved such a great deal throughout their career, it could take 10 pages to go through it all so here are just a few highlights for you. With 65 million record sale, they are the best-selling American girl group and are second worldwide only to the Spice Girls (more on them very soon). VH1 ranks TLC as the greatest female group of all time and they were also #12 on the list of 100 Greatest Women in Music. Their album CrazySexyCool remains the only album by a female group to receive a diamond certification in America. They were honoured for their outstanding contribution to music at the 17th MOBO Awards.
As you are most likely well aware, with Lisa Left-Eye Lopez’ passing, TLC continue as a duo (Left-Eye is certainly irreplaceable) and still tour together. They released an album that is dubbed their final one last year but have confirmed they are still active. As you can probably see from this write-up, I absolutely adore these girls – and the tragic death of the amazingly talented Left-Eye still brings tears to my eyes. I will leave it here and go to our panel of esteemed voters!
Zar-Unity (7) acknowledges the qualities - One of the biggest 90's girl groups with attitude and high production. Tech: 5 Taste: 2 = 7 points. Kermit_The_Frog (8) best start dropping names for consideration for the signature round in part 2, I have too many also! - Not my favourite song (they have around 5 x easy 11s in their canon) but still pretty damn wonderful. Further Listening: Silly Ho
ComeOnGloria (6) is being cute - May need to beg for some more points... Filippa (7) is not against all R&B afterall and gives credit where due (at least) - This is not my cup of tea. But the song has a good rhythm, I love their voices - I somehow love those girls! Trouble In Paradise (5.5) has other favourites - Definitely not TLC’s best song. It lacks their ear for melody and the charisma of their best deliveries Empty Shoebox (4) was expecting something else… - Hang on, this isn't a cover of the Temptations song? I'm surprised. However, it is that early 90's R & B that I just never got on with. I don't want to upset the fans any further so I'll just say that I don't like it.
DominoDancing (6.5) recognises C.U.N.T is still in infancy stages - Good attitude, weakish hook. Just like En Vogue, not super representative of the heights they'd reach a short while later. Iheartpoptarts (7) clocks the fashion! - I think everything early 90s is Fresh Prince of Bel Air like I think everything 80s is Saved by the Bell. Unnameable (3) is being oddly shady! - thank you for making me relive this.
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He/Him
It was due to it being their breakthrough song (hitting top 20 either in the UK, US or Australia!)
The Go-Gos.... Yes! More on them soon!
MollieSwift21
Staff member
How did this miss the top 20!?
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londonrain
Staff member
Ah, the period when Left Eye used to wear a condom over her eye.
I was braced for this after the result in part 1 of the nineties rate, but ouch all the same.
I was braced for this after the result in part 1 of the nineties rate, but ouch all the same.
londonrain
Staff member
I suppose there's a symmetry to the fact that this has left at #36 in this rate and Baby-Baby-Baby left at #36 in the '90s rate, but both results are way below what I'd expect for an act as iconic as TLC.
Iconic is not how I would describe thier inclusion in this rate.
'Til next time.
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TLC is amazing, but Ain't 2 proud 2 Beg is nothing compared to some of their other singles.
Part of me thinks that 36 is about right for an 8/10 song.
Then I remember that...
The Nolans
Spice Girls
Honeyz
B*Witched
Atomic Kitten
The Veronicas
Booty Luv
The Saturdays
All Saints just this particular song
Are still here.
And I get angry again.
Then I remember that...
The Nolans
Spice Girls
Honeyz
B*Witched
Atomic Kitten
The Veronicas
Booty Luv
The Saturdays
All Saints just this particular song
Are still here.
And I get angry again.
