#soon! Part Un - The 60s-00s Girl Band Debut Breakthrough Rate
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If I had participated in this rate, it would have been a zero...
he/him
Well you had a mention in my commentary for a reason.
A 7 was just about my peak for that album.
she/her
And you may have beaten me to lowest average. I only gave out two zeroes.
I don't know if I should be horrified or flattered to know that when people mention me on PJ, it's usually in the context of:
1) my dislike of the Sugababes' debut album
2) my dislike of a certain Girls Aloud album
3) cats
4) two or more of the above
He/Him
Sugababes hate and we are not even in the top 20 - one way ticket to a madman situation! Let's leave the rate villainy to @Filippa if that's where this is going! It's a debut breakthrough rate, guys - what else but Overload would go here? Wasn't its underperformance in their discography rate punishment enough?
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So glad @Mina you didn't participate!
To me "Overload" is their best song. Here is where the villainy definitely stops!
But @berserkboi I have to cancel this rate, I did not consider the sale figures while scoring. So sorry @Riiiiiiiii!
To me "Overload" is their best song. Here is where the villainy definitely stops!
But @berserkboi I have to cancel this rate, I did not consider the sale figures while scoring. So sorry @Riiiiiiiii!
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Breakthrough success comes in different shapes and forms. I cannot deny that the Spice Girls are powerhouses, especially in sales! so that component can matter a lot but being influential and timeless is very important too! Show Stopper probably sold more copies than It Ain't What You Do or Overload but I still wouldn't place it above the others!
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And I thought it's all about what I like and what I don't like ...ts, ts, ts
I'm only joking ... I like the Spice Girls, so no worries @Riiiiiiiii by the way.
I'm only joking ... I like the Spice Girls, so no worries @Riiiiiiiii by the way.
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Having run the numbers, maybe not. My average isn't as high as I thought it was.
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All this sale talk has led to my next hint. The next cut is a very high selling one...
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Y'know, I think it's just as well I couldn't take part in this and have thus avoided multiple meltdowns over some of these eliminations.
This is a "girl group rate" and they are the best selling girl group of all time... It would be blasphemy if they don't end up in the top 5. Plus their breakthrough in undeniably iconic, something we can't say about some songs in this rate...
What's next? Sugababes suck at harmonizing?
They are in my Bottom 10 scores (for this song)
I'm so sorry everyone when this means they tank before the Top 10
Except I'm not that sorry...
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You get to hear from @Riiiiiiiii and @spillett today!!
#35
Honey Cone – Want Ads
Average Score: 6.924
Highest Score: 10 x 1 (@iheartpoptarts)
Lowest Score: 4 x 2 (@Filippa, @2014)
#35
Honey Cone – Want Ads
Average Score: 6.924
Highest Score: 10 x 1 (@iheartpoptarts)
Lowest Score: 4 x 2 (@Filippa, @2014)
Here we have a record that has performed spectacularly, considering the first lot of scores thrown at it. For most of the voting period Want Ads was lingering around the #40-#45 mark but with a couple more assertive scores thrown at it, the girls make the top 35! With this cut, we lose another 70s number, and when reviewing that era’s list – we can see it includes the most soulful records so a cut of those is always a little painful to me as I have come to adore that pop soul sound since starting this rate.
Want Ads has an interesting background to it, which this hosting process has allowed me to really research – another thing I am thankful for! Greg Perry and General Norman Johnson had written a song called ‘Stick-Up’ for a female singer but upon reviewing, they didn’t find it substantial enough so they re-wrote it with amendments to the chord progression and the opening line “Wanted, young man, single and free” and Want Ads was born. The song was workshopped and recorded by other acts at first, with the writers and producers not being very satisfied with the result. Lightning struck when Honey Cone singer Edna Wright passed through the studio and she was asked to record it. Edna’s voice more than suit the frustration and angst of the protagonist of the song, the effect making it so I have difficulty picturing anyone else performing the track. That didn’t stop others covering it though, Taylor Dayne does a ‘disco’ flavoured version that suits the song very well but isn’t quite to the same level as the original.
Want Ads was incredibly successful in the Billboard charts, eventually making the #1 spot, and being (the) major success for the girls’ record label Hot Wax Records (which folded shortly after the group split up in 1973 due to increasing debt). The track sold over one million copies and was Honey Cone’s biggest hit. Mary Mary also sampled the tune for their record breaking (nine weeks at the top of the gospel chart) ‘Heaven’ in 2005 and Edna Wright made a cameo appearance in the video lip-synching to her own sampled vocals.
‘The song is also said to have been a major contributor to the structure, sound and grit of the pre-disco movement that would rock the popular music world’, but what did PopJustice think?
DJHazey (7) appreciates the associations - A bop, even if it's not something I'd ever really choose to listen to. When I think of this era and 'Soul Train' this is exactly the style of song I'd expect to hear. Unnameable (7) does too but the buck stops right there – fun but not a classic. Ufint (8) may have heard the songs Want Ads influenced before the original - Lots of fun even though it totally sounds like a dozen other songs
Iheartpoptarts (10) gives obtuse Confucius eleganza! - I got my life to that Ricki-Lee song. High five me, Australia! DominoDancing (5) likes but doesn’t love - I guess it's got a little bit of spunk, but apart from that this is pretty mediocre. LondonRain (7.5) can see the appeal - A bop with great lyrics. Works for me.
Empty Shoebox (7) gives us a bit of history lesson - There's one word that comes to mind when you listen to this and that's 'motown'. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it does limit the distinctiveness of this record. Decent lyrics, if nothing brilliant. Trouble In Paradise (8.5) is getting his life! - This gives me serious Jackson 5 vibes in the best way.
Filippa (4) has the same reference as TIP but takes it differently - Sounds like Jackson 5 song with Michael on the lead. But a rather bad one. Spillett (8) loved this discovery - (funky, never heard this but I like it. "Extra, extra... read all about about. Wanted - young, single and free!") Riiiiiiiii (8.6) finally gives us commentariiiiiiiii! - I know it’s super lame but when I first heard this two weeks ago I thought she was singing “gonna put it in ya booty”, and I have been singing it like that ever since.
Kermit_The_Frog (6) is surprised at his discovery - A mainstay of compilations in my collection, though I never knew that they were a group (assumed a solo female with a saucy stage-name) Further Listening: If I Can’t Fly. Zar-Unity (7) likes this too !- Very catchy! I like the funky sound over the lead singers vocals. Tech: 4 Taste: 3 = 7 points
Want Ads has an interesting background to it, which this hosting process has allowed me to really research – another thing I am thankful for! Greg Perry and General Norman Johnson had written a song called ‘Stick-Up’ for a female singer but upon reviewing, they didn’t find it substantial enough so they re-wrote it with amendments to the chord progression and the opening line “Wanted, young man, single and free” and Want Ads was born. The song was workshopped and recorded by other acts at first, with the writers and producers not being very satisfied with the result. Lightning struck when Honey Cone singer Edna Wright passed through the studio and she was asked to record it. Edna’s voice more than suit the frustration and angst of the protagonist of the song, the effect making it so I have difficulty picturing anyone else performing the track. That didn’t stop others covering it though, Taylor Dayne does a ‘disco’ flavoured version that suits the song very well but isn’t quite to the same level as the original.
Want Ads was incredibly successful in the Billboard charts, eventually making the #1 spot, and being (the) major success for the girls’ record label Hot Wax Records (which folded shortly after the group split up in 1973 due to increasing debt). The track sold over one million copies and was Honey Cone’s biggest hit. Mary Mary also sampled the tune for their record breaking (nine weeks at the top of the gospel chart) ‘Heaven’ in 2005 and Edna Wright made a cameo appearance in the video lip-synching to her own sampled vocals.
‘The song is also said to have been a major contributor to the structure, sound and grit of the pre-disco movement that would rock the popular music world’, but what did PopJustice think?
DJHazey (7) appreciates the associations - A bop, even if it's not something I'd ever really choose to listen to. When I think of this era and 'Soul Train' this is exactly the style of song I'd expect to hear. Unnameable (7) does too but the buck stops right there – fun but not a classic. Ufint (8) may have heard the songs Want Ads influenced before the original - Lots of fun even though it totally sounds like a dozen other songs
Iheartpoptarts (10) gives obtuse Confucius eleganza! - I got my life to that Ricki-Lee song. High five me, Australia! DominoDancing (5) likes but doesn’t love - I guess it's got a little bit of spunk, but apart from that this is pretty mediocre. LondonRain (7.5) can see the appeal - A bop with great lyrics. Works for me.
Empty Shoebox (7) gives us a bit of history lesson - There's one word that comes to mind when you listen to this and that's 'motown'. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it does limit the distinctiveness of this record. Decent lyrics, if nothing brilliant. Trouble In Paradise (8.5) is getting his life! - This gives me serious Jackson 5 vibes in the best way.
Filippa (4) has the same reference as TIP but takes it differently - Sounds like Jackson 5 song with Michael on the lead. But a rather bad one. Spillett (8) loved this discovery - (funky, never heard this but I like it. "Extra, extra... read all about about. Wanted - young, single and free!") Riiiiiiiii (8.6) finally gives us commentariiiiiiiii! - I know it’s super lame but when I first heard this two weeks ago I thought she was singing “gonna put it in ya booty”, and I have been singing it like that ever since.
Kermit_The_Frog (6) is surprised at his discovery - A mainstay of compilations in my collection, though I never knew that they were a group (assumed a solo female with a saucy stage-name) Further Listening: If I Can’t Fly. Zar-Unity (7) likes this too !- Very catchy! I like the funky sound over the lead singers vocals. Tech: 4 Taste: 3 = 7 points
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I rest my case.
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What a horrible day! First you guys bash the Sugababes and the "uninfluential and temporary" Spice Girls and then the first song from my top 20 leaves.
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So sorry the next elimination is delayed, my lovelies. I had a sleep-in til 8am and had a couple of PJ00s things to sort out before the gym and now going to a lunch. Will work on it when I get back! The next cut will see us lose a very influential group and I am the high scorer, but not with a 10! WHAT DID YOU DO???
Don't worry about it, you don't strictly have to eliminate 1 a day.
You are doing beautifully honey.