Spice Girls

P'NutButter

P'NutButter

Geri basically is the reason the Spice Girls have become the iconic force they are. Her leaving at that time was a HUGE pop culture moment and in turn created the excitement for the reunions.

Because they were so busy touring and promoting, the third album (with Geri) likely would've been covers and a sprinkle of new songs. Then a live album to coincide with the American tour documentary. But I think they always would've stopped after the stadiums.
 
rymanzo

rymanzo

I remember logging into their website in 2000 and there was a poll, I can only remember Spice 2000 and Spice Girls Forever being options but there were a few others.

It's a shame that their enthusiasm had wained somewhat by end of 2000 as it just compounded some of the fatigue from the general public. They seemed burnt out and not as ambitious as they once did which had always been part of their charm.

Spice Girls without ambition was never going to work. Whether it be Victoria plotting to take over the fashion world or Mel C grafting away at her solo career, they always thrive when they are ambitious. The idea of them doing a massive stadium tour in 2019 as a four piece (particularly with Geri's absence from performing) was pretty ambitious and people get on board when they think big. Forever was not one of those moments.
 
lushLuck

lushLuck

I also just think they were so massive that it was inevitable the bubble would burst. By 2000, many of their fans had become teens/tweens who moved on to other things - it was no longer 'cool' to like the Spice Girls, so I think they were bound to take a beating regardless. It just became easy to blame it all on Geri, but I don't actually think anything would have changed if she'd stayed. Maybe one more massive album in 1999, but it all would have been the same a few years later.
 
lushLuck

lushLuck

Vasilios said:
Everything 90s pop felt 'old' and past it in 2000. That's why the girls weren't inside the SPICE letters, why they changed their sound, had a slicker style, black and white aesthetics, why WOMAN wasn't on the album and so on.
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Correct. Sadly, I just don’t think there was a space for the Spice Girls after the 90s. They really did everything they could to adapt, a smart move, but I think society had just made the unfortunate choice to leave them in the previous century.
 
Sideout

Sideout

All of these endless discussions about the quality of Forever are pointless until we hear the discarded pop songs. Then we can determine if the girls and the head of A&R at Virgin Records (Ashley Newton) made the right decision to not use the pop tracks.
 
SloMover

SloMover

It also didn't help that the Spice Girls were pretty much in competition with the Britneys and Christinas at the time - they were younger (probably the same age of the audience they were all targeting), fresher and were releasing cooler, and arguably more mature, music by 1999.
 
Holly Something

Holly Something

Sideout said:
All of these endless discussions about the quality of Forever are pointless until we hear the discarded pop songs. Then we can determine if the girls and the head of A&R at Virgin Records (Ashley Newton) made the right decision to not use the pop tracks.
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They're not really pointless though as discarded pop songs won't change the album we actually got.
 
D

diegolcl

Bumper to Bumper
Take Me Home
One of These Girls
Baby Come Around
Feed Your Love
C U Next Tuesday
Step to Me
Outer Space Girls
Walk of Life
My Strongest Suit
W.O.M.A.N.
Voodoo

Ok, but imagine these songs remixed in a Club Spice, Dawn of Spiceworld concept or whatever. Something that doesn't need much effort from the girls and a way to do something new without "tarnishing the legacy".
Make W.O.M.A.N. and C U Next Tuesday demos as bonus tracks to the physical format and there you have it. (And I can dream with Spice remixes from SG Lewis, Roosevelt, Cosmodelica, Paul Woolford, Krystal Klear, Soulwax...)
 
W

Wanted

SloMover said:
It also didn't help that the Spice Girls were pretty much in competition with the Britneys and Christinas at the time - they were younger (probably the same age of the audience they were all targeting), fresher and were releasing cooler, and arguably more mature, music by 1999.
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Yet All Saints, Atomic Kitten, Girls Aloud, Sugababes fit in fine with them, they stopped making pop music, the fans dropped them. That’s all there is to it.

If they came back with quality like Never Ever or Pure Shores, it would have been different for them, but amazing.

I find some of the takes very odd, saying pop was over, but all the UK groups that came after them were still smashing when the girls flopped.
 
Z

Zaau

As a fan from the start I will always remember how disappointed I was when hearing “Forever” for the first time. It was way too different from the first 2 albums.

They should have had at least 4-5 pop songs to balance it out and to prove they can still make great pop music without Geri.

It also didn’t help that Geri and Mel C had released much better albums so I was more interested to follow their solo careers.
 
VeryPSB

VeryPSB

I remember picking up the album in Tesco on the release date and looking at the track list and thinking “where’s W.O.M.A.N?!” I’d seen the Christmas In Spiceworld shows and I really loved that track. So looking back I think I was a bit underwhelmed by the album at the time. I’ve grown to enjoy it so much more in later years, it still has some great tunes. Spiceworld will remain their masterpiece.
 
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