I have little use for TOS outside of a handful of episodes, but I enjoy (most of) the films well enough. With the exception of the first film (which I actually do like), the TOS movies have a very different style and tone to TOS itself, and you don't need to have seen anything from TOS for them to make sense. Wrath is the only one with a plot connection to TOS, and it gives you what little you need to know in the film.
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TOS movies have a naffness that I find it hard to get past. It's sort of endearing, but man I really have to be in the mood for it. Gene hated the movies he didn't write, so they're not all bad.
Jeri Ryan absolutely understood the assignment this week.
Oh, she absolutely ATE this week. A queen.
The Undiscovered Country is properly amazing. I recommend it very much.
The Wrath of Khan and The Undiscovered Country are great. Although I hate Shakespeare and I'm with McCoy wanting Chang to shut the fuck up with the Bard quotes. Why Klingon's would read Shakespeare is just ridiculous, but the film lampshades how the Trek franchise is always from a homo sapiens viewpoint by having a Klingon say it to their face.
The Voyage Home dials up the naff considerably. Yes it's a hoot and all that, but I think the majority of Trek cringe perception in pop culture comes from this film. I really like The Search For Spock, and I actually find a lot to like about The Final Frontier and I'd stand up for Shatner as a visual director, just not someone good with a light humour touch or spreading his budget across a whole film. I've only managed to watch The Motion Picture once in 30 years, but I'd like to try the Directors Cut when I finally double dip into the new bluray transfers. The "Hi I'm the new bald officer, and everybody wants to shag me" introduction breaks my toes it's so cringe.
The best thing about the Harve Bennett era films are that they reduced Roddenberry in rank to Angry Memo Writer From Another Department and ignored his stupid horny teenager brain programming. What I dislike about them is that they lean a bit too hard onto Navy tropes with the stilted bridge officer dialogue that sounds like a bad Star Trek impression. And the obsession about being "human". Fuck being a human, I wanna be an alien.
The Undiscovered Country is up there with the best of Trek (despite one awful, harrowing scene).
My Star Trek group (yes, I belong to a group of five homosexuals who get together biweekly to watch Picard) were commenting that they've done something to Worf's makeup, you can somehow see Michael Dorn's face better. I think the brows are less heavy. It's great.
I still can't figure out Jack's deal. They clearly want us to think one thing, but it doesn't make any sense.
When they revealed
that the Soong android had all the personalities of Data/B4/Lore/Lal
Brent Spiner Emmy Attempt "She's my daughter! He's my brother!"
Also, adding to the chorus of "Jeri Ryan took what could have been a terribly schmaltzy fan-service moment and spun it into gold."
You can see Michael Dorn's ears now with the new Worf hairpiece.
Hmmmm. You're right, I hadn't noticed that! I wonder if that's all it is.
So like... is that it with Jack's visions? We got a half assed explanation and now it's all fine?
Also if Bev knew that Picard experienced that why would she not see if it had passed to Jack genetically? Beverly is doing a lot of non-Beverly type things in this season and it's kind of frustrating.
Also if Bev knew that Picard experienced that why would she not see if it had passed to Jack genetically? Beverly is doing a lot of non-Beverly type things in this season and it's kind of frustrating.
She’s actually been practising medicine- which you rarely ever saw on TNG. You never really got a sense that she was one of Starfleet’s finest physicians. Now she’s crucial to the plot in a vital way and she’s kind of bad ass.
They have missed a trick with her not having another alien sex candle boyfriend, though! Cackle!
Another great week, the Jeri scene was beautifully done both in terms of her acting and the character moment within some pretty huge fan service. My only real complaint this week and about the series so far
Oh and I'll be very shocked if
is Data coming back from the dead. It feels so horribly forced and desperate since they clearly (again) have to give Brent Spiner something to do. It also undermines the wonderful end of Season One with Data's passing and what should have been the final say on the character.
Oh and I'll be very shocked if
the Enterprise D isn't being stored in Hanger 12 and they'll be bringing it out at some point. Geordi cutting off his daughter on that line felt like its going to pay off later for sure.
This is obviously a mislead. Knowing what we know now about what the Changlings stole, Picard had something in his DNA they can no longer get from him and they are hoping / suspect it was passed onto his son.
I can only imagine presenting this script to the actor:
Hey Brent, do you remember how much you hated filming "Masks". Well, how do you feel about doing that again?
On that Chekhov's gun:
All the new ships are linked together, that seems to be setting up a revisit to these old ships with their old non-talkative systems later in the season. Along with whatever is in Hanger 12. Maybe it's a giant Robotnik robot version of Pulaski.
I feel that’s it’s either going to be the saucer of the Enterprise-D or the Enterprise-E in Hangar 12. Terry Matalas did say months ago on Twitter that we would see multiple Enterprise’s.
Its going to be the Enterprise D, the set up of the first episode alone where Picard says it was his favourite ship... its screaming it'll be the ship they get in for some purpose. Likely when the fleet is devastated during the Frontier Day ceremony.