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Utterly random question that I thought I'd pop here rather than in the Donna Summer thread - does anyone know why her label opted to only release one extended mix of This Time I Know It's For Real? It seems odd that the lead single from a major artist - that S/A/W were keen to work with - would only get one S/A/W extended mix. Even after the single's success no alternative 12" version was released commercially, not even as a bonus track to bolster sales of subsequent singles.

At the time a lot* of S/A/W productions were afforded multiple remixes. Did the label not want to commission more than one? Was it concerned the track wasn't strong enough? My guess is that Atlantic in the US called the shots around what extended versions were commissioned and released - and it had its eyes firmly on the States rather than other territories. That might explain why the Clivilles & Cole mixes were commissioned as alternative versions for the single release of Love's About To Change there, with those mixes also appearing on that single's remix 12" in the UK. If anyone's got any thoughts I'd love to hear them!

(*Utterly statistically unproven. I know many S/A/W productions were on PWL by this point so it's not a completely fair comparison, but even so it bugs me.)
 
Utterly random question that I thought I'd pop here rather than in the Donna Summer thread - does anyone know why her label opted to only release one extended mix of This Time I Know It's For Real? It seems odd that the lead single from a major artist - that S/A/W were keen to work with - would only get one S/A/W extended mix. Even after the single's success no alternative 12" version was released commercially, not even as a bonus track to bolster sales of subsequent singles.

At the time a lot* of S/A/W productions were afforded multiple remixes. Did the label not want to commission more than one? Was it concerned the track wasn't strong enough? My guess is that Atlantic in the US called the shots around what extended versions were commissioned and released - and it had its eyes firmly on the States rather than other territories. That might explain why the Clivilles & Cole mixes were commissioned as alternative versions for the single release of Love's About To Change there, with those mixes also appearing on that single's remix 12" in the UK. If anyone's got any thoughts I'd love to hear them!

(*Utterly statistically unproven. I know many S/A/W productions were on PWL by this point so it's not a completely fair comparison, but even so it bugs me.)

The answer is probably what you said. Geffen have only really had their eye on the US market and not international ones and it's never changed since. Even by the end of the 90's, anything signed to Geffen released in Europe was treated as Island/Polydor's problem and they just didn't react fast enough to any market that moved faster than the glacial American one. That's likely one reason why Interscope became the dominant label in the Universal group internationally.
 
Utterly random question that I thought I'd pop here rather than in the Donna Summer thread - does anyone know why her label opted to only release one extended mix of This Time I Know It's For Real? It seems odd that the lead single from a major artist - that S/A/W were keen to work with - would only get one S/A/W extended mix. Even after the single's success no alternative 12" version was released commercially, not even as a bonus track to bolster sales of subsequent singles.

At the time a lot* of S/A/W productions were afforded multiple remixes. Did the label not want to commission more than one? Was it concerned the track wasn't strong enough? My guess is that Atlantic in the US called the shots around what extended versions were commissioned and released - and it had its eyes firmly on the States rather than other territories. That might explain why the Clivilles & Cole mixes were commissioned as alternative versions for the single release of Love's About To Change there, with those mixes also appearing on that single's remix 12" in the UK. If anyone's got any thoughts I'd love to hear them!

(*Utterly statistically unproven. I know many S/A/W productions were on PWL by this point so it's not a completely fair comparison, but even so it bugs me.)
I suspect there was no time to commission remixes of This Time... for the US given the way the US release for that single and the album unfolded. But by the time of the second US single (Love's About...), there was time to look at remixes - and Atlantic had a good dance department to do that.
 
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Thank you for another amazing episode! Loved hearing more about Shazza and her styling escapades, and as for Bruce Sudano… wow, just wow! Such an amazing surprise. To hear him talk about Donna and her career was everything. Also on the bonus material. The little details about the I Don’t Wanna Get Hurt disagreement were great, and I laughed out loud when he admitted that she probably just didn’t bother doing the video because she didn’t like it. I can just imagine!
 
Was this mentioned ? She wants to dance with me 4k remaster


The “remaster” of this and never Gonna Give You Up are the absolute worst I have seen. It’s practically a cartoon version now.

It’s very odd because the Together Forever remaster looks great. I wonder if they did something different for that one?

 
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The “remaster” of this and never Gonna Give You Up are the absolute worst I have seen. It’s practically a cartoon version now.

It’s very odd because the Together Forever remaster looks great. I wonder if they did something different for that one?


They go overboard with the noise reduction and smoothing, then over sharpen it to try and compensate. Everything ends up looking like a cartoon waxwork as a result. Horrible to my eyes. Together Forever looks like it has plenty of film grain which would suggest they shot it on proper film stock rather than low res video like the others? Just a guess, could be wrong.
 
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