The 2018 R&B Legends Rate: winner revealed!

londonrain

Staff member
Last year, 31 of us pulled together to vote for some incredible ladies of R&B who released albums in 1998.

Leading the pack were Brandy, Monica, Lauryn and Whitney - but Whitney came out on top, with a little help from that Thunderpuss remix of one of her best songs ever.





But now it's time for the sequel.

The R&B landscape has changed a lot in twenty years, and the R&B of 2018 is very different from the R&B of 1998 in many ways... but some legends of the game were still around turning out 10/10 material in 2018... so here we are, with a rate to honour the girls who are still here 15 years, 20 years, or even 28 years later, bringing their A-game and showing everyone else how it's done.


Legendary girl group En Vogue finally gave us their long-delayed seventh album, showing that their vocals and consistency have not dipped from the days of their six #1 US R&B number ones.

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R&B icon Toni Braxton gave us her ninth album, giving us classic R&B quality and grabbing her first solo Grammy nominations since 2001.

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And the 2019 Billboard Music Awards' Icon Award recipient, the amazing Ms. Mariah Carey, really went the distance with her 2018 album Caution, putting her back into the spotlight where she belongs.

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This rate celebrates these three influential artists and their 2018 output...


...but wait, there's more!

I haven't forgotten the other ladies of R&B who started in the '90s or early '00s and were still bringing out quality material in 2018. Who knows, you might even discover some new faves!




Okay. What do I need to do?

Simply rate each of the songs on a scale from 0 to 10. I'll allow decimals, but keep it sensible. Nobody wants me to screw up the results because I accidentally put down 5.2642 instead of 5.6422.

You may award one song, and one song only, a score of 11. Choose wisely.

When you're done, send me a message (using the little envelope in the top right corner of your screen) that contains your scores for all the songs. There are no optional sections in this rate, so you must give a score to all of the songs.

Can I rate a version that isn't on the album?

For songs with multiple versions (e.g. single edits that differ from the album, or dance mixes that you prefer to the original) rate the version that you prefer.

Do I have to include commentary?

Commentary is highly encouraged, but is not mandatory.

Sure, you can just send in a bunch of numbers, but it will make the elimination posts a lot more interesting if you tell us a bit more about why you gave the scores you did. Did Long As I Live really hit you at a vulnerable time in your life? Did Old Times make you really think about police shootings in the US? Did A No No make you want to live an NYC subway fantasy? Did Rocket make you want to do an old-school photoshoot in the desert?

I really can't stand some of the songs in this rate. Can I still vote?

I fully accept that you will all have differences of opinion. That's the point! Feel free to submit anyway. But if your ballot is really just trolling (like if you give zeroes to the entire Mariah album), I will throw it out.

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VOTES ARE DUE ON
SATURDAY, JUNE 29
AT
23:59 PACIFIC TIME.

 
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londonrain

Staff member
Songs To Rate

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En Vogue - Electric Café
Release date: April 6, 2018
Chart peaks: #14 (Billboard Independent Albums); #47 (UK Independent Albums)​

1. Blue Skies
2. Déjà Vu
3. Rocket
4. Reach 4 Me
5. Electric Café
6. Life
7. Love The Way
8. Oceans Deep
9. Have A Seat | with Snoop Dogg | without Snoop Dogg
10. I’m Good
11. So Serious
12. Luv My Thangz


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Mariah Carey - Caution
Release date: November 16, 2018
Chart peaks: #5 (Billboard 200), #1 (Billboard Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums); #40 (UK Albums Chart)

1. GTFO
2. With You
3. Caution
4. A No No | album version | video edit | remix featuring Stefflon Don | remix featuring Shawni
5. The Distance (featuring Ty Dolla $ign)
6. Giving Me Life (featuring Slick Rick & Blood Orange)
7. One Mo' Gen
8. 8th Grade
9. Stay Long Love You (featuring Gunna)
10. Portrait
11. Runway (video starts at 00:13)


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Toni Braxton - Sex & Cigarettes
Release date: March 23, 2018
Chart peaks: #22 (Billboard 200); #33 (UK Albums Chart)

1. Deadwood
2. Sex & Cigarettes
3. Long As I Live
4. FOH
5. Sorry
6. My Heart (featuring Colbie Caillat)
7. Coping | main version | Disco Killerz Remix | Eden Prince Remix
8. Missin'
9. Forgiven


The Best of the Rest

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Gabrielle - Under My Skin
Under My Skin
Thank You
Show Me
Every Step
Shine

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Macy Gray - Ruby
Buddha (featuring Gary Clark Jr.)
Over You
White Man
Sugar Daddy
Jealousy

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Marsha Ambrosius - Nyla
Flood
Luh Ya
Old Times
Never Be The Same Again
Scorn

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Mya - T.K.O. (The Knock Out)
Ready For Whatever
Damage
You Got Me
With You (featuring MyGuyMars)
Down

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Tamia - Passion Like Fire
Leave It Smokin'
It's Yours
Today I Do
When The Sun Comes Up
Deeper


En Vogue - Electric Café
1. Blue Skies
2. Déjà Vu
3. Rocket
4. Reach 4 Me
5. Electric Café
6. Life
7. Love The Way
8. Oceans Deep
9. Have A Seat
10. I’m Good
11. So Serious
12. Luv My Thangz


Mariah Carey - Caution
1. GTFO
2. With You
3. Caution
4. A No No
5. The Distance
6. Giving Me Life
7. One Mo' Gen
8. 8th Grade
9. Stay Long Love You
10. Portrait
11. Runway

Toni Braxton - Sex & Cigarettes
1. Deadwood
2. Sex & Cigarettes
3. Long As I Live
4. FOH
5. Sorry
6. My Heart
7. Coping
8. Missin'
9. Forgiven

Gabrielle - Under My Skin
Under My Skin
Thank You
Show Me
Every Step
Shine

Macy Gray - Ruby
Buddha
Over You
White Man
Sugar Daddy
Jealousy

Marsha Ambrosius - Nyla
Flood
Luh Ya
Old Times
Never Be The Same Again
Scorn

Mya - T.K.O. (The Knock Out)
Ready For Whatever
Damage
You Got Me
With You
Down

Tamia - Passion Like Fire
Leave It Smokin'
It's Yours
Today I Do
When The Sun Comes Up
Deeper
 
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londonrain

Staff member
Results

57. You Got Me (Mya)
56. I'm Good (En Vogue)
55. Have A Seat (En Vogue)
54. Luv My Thangz (En Vogue)
53. With You (Mya featuring MyGuyMars)
52. Deja Vu (En Vogue)
51. Ready For Whatever (Mya)

50. Thank You (Gabrielle)
49. Sugar Daddy (Macy Gray)
47. So Serious (En Vogue) / Jealousy (Macy Gray)
45. Show Me (Gabrielle) / Down (Mya)
44. Scorn (Marsha Ambrosius)
43. Never Be The Same Again (Marsha Ambrosius)
42. Today I Do (Tamia)
41. My Heart (Toni Braxton featuring Colbie Caillat)

40. Electric Café (En Vogue)
39. Reach 4 Me (En Vogue)
38. Love The Way (En Vogue)
37. Forgiven (Toni Braxton)
36. Life (En Vogue)
35. Oceans Deep (En Vogue)
34. Every Step (Gabrielle)
33. Flood (Marsha Ambrosius)
32. Shine (Gabrielle)
31. Luh Ya (Marsha Ambrosius)

29. It's Yours (Tamia) / Buddha (Macy Gray featuring Gary Clark Jr.)
28. One Mo' Gen (Mariah Carey)
27. Under My Skin (Gabrielle)
26. When The Sun Comes Up (Tamia)
25. Old Times (Marsha Ambrosius)
24. Over You (Macy Gray)
23. Rocket (En Vogue)
22. Damage (Mya)
21. Sorry (Toni Braxton)

19. Runway (Mariah Carey) / Deeper (Tamia)
18. With You (Mariah Carey)
16. Stay Long Love You (Mariah Carey) / White Man (Macy Gray)
14. Blue Skies (En Vogue) / FOH (Toni Braxton)
13. Portrait (Mariah Carey)
12. Missin' (Toni Braxton)
11. 8th Grade (Mariah Carey)

10. Leave It Smokin' (Tamia)
9. Coping (Toni Braxton)
7. GTFO (Mariah Carey) / Sex & Cigarettes (Toni Braxton)
6. Caution (Mariah Carey)
5. Giving Me Life (Mariah Carey featuring Slick Rick and Blood Orange)
4. Deadwood (Toni Braxton)
3. The Distance (Mariah Carey featuring Ty Dolla $ign)
Top 2: Long As I Live (Toni Braxton) / A No No (Mariah Carey)
 
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RainOnFire

Staff member
Caution was my favourite album of 2018 and Sex & Cigarettes was in my Top 5, so I will absolutely be taking part! I haven't heard the En Vogue album or any of the extras, but judging by how much I love Mariah and Toni, I'm excited to dive in and find some gems.
 
He/Him
You know, I am 90% there, especially to support Gabrielle (who I eventually want to do a Singles Rate for) but do I want to watch her die a slow and painful death against these forum faves.... Let me ponder for a couple of days ;)
 

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