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The 80s-90s Lost Classics Rate - Goodbye Wes! :'-(

Discussion in 'Charts, rates etc' started by berserkboi, Oct 12, 2020.

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    Welcome! Bienvenue! Willkommen! Benvenuto! Bienvenido! أهلا بك


    To The 80s-90s Lost Classics Rate!


    Why lost classics?
    That’s easy to tell:


    The songs we bring you enjoyed huge success in (parts of) continental Europe but were mostly ignored in the UK and the US.


    Sadly, most of them were still too successful to compete on PJOPS / PJ Retro.


    Between the endless complaining of being vetoed again and mourning that no-one will ever listen to these songs on their PM chat - Berserkboi & Filippa gave birth to this rate concept!


    Sorting through a massive list of songs from our childhood, we selected the tracks that fit the following criteria:


    i) Palatable to PopJustice at large
    ii) Undeniable commercial success outside UK/US
    iii) Unlikely to appear in any other rates or contests
    iv) Non Top 10 hits on the UK or US Singles Chart


    Sadly, this still left us with hundreds of tracks to choose from - so we ensured diversity in sound, language, career trajectories and cultural significance were key criteria to benchmark against. This gave us a great range of music - and plenty to talk about as we start counting down to songs!
    SONGLIST (In Alphabetical Order) - PM Version

    Alice - Per Elisa
    Andrea Bocelli & Hélène Ségara - Vivo per lei
    Anggun - La neige au Sahara
    Blümchen - Herz an Herz
    Carrapicho - Tic Tic Tac
    David Bowie and Pat Metheny Group - This Is Not America
    David Charvet - Should I Leave
    David Hallyday - Tu ne m’as pas laissé le temps
    Début De Soirée - Nuit de folie
    Demis Roussos - Quand je t'aime
    Die Ärzte - Ein Schwein namens Männer
    DJ Ötzi - Anton aus Tirol
    DÖF - Codo
    Dorothee - Hou! La menteuse!
    Elsa - T’en va pas
    Era - Ameno
    Eros Ramazotti - Più bella chosa
    Falco - Jeanny
    Florent Pagny - Savoir aimer
    Fools’ Garden - Lemon Tree
    Frida - I Know There's Something Going On
    Garou, Patrick Fiori, Daniel Lavoie - Belle
    Gazebo - I Like Chopin
    Helen Schneider - Rock ‘n’ Roll Gypsy
    Herbert Léonard - Pour le plaisir
    Images - Les demons de minuit
    Jean-Jacques Goldman - Je te donne
    Jermaine Jackson, Pia Zadora - When the Rain Begins To Fall
    Khaled - Aicha
    La Compagnie Créole - Le bal masqué
    Liquido - Narcotic
    Manau - La tribu de Dana
    Marie-Claire D’Ubaldo - La magia del ritmo / Non-English
    Matia Bazar - Ti sento
    Mecano - Hijo de la Luna
    Michel Sardou - Les Lacs du Connemara
    Modern Talking - You're My Heart, You're My Soul / '98 Version
    Mory Kanté - Yéké Yéké
    Nana - Lonely
    Nathalie Cardone - Hasta siempre
    Nek - Laura non c’e
    Nena - Irgendwie, irgendwo, irgendwann
    Nik Kamen - I Promised Myself
    Nomads - Yakalelo
    Ofra Haza - Im Nin’Alu
    Partenaire Particulier - Partenaire particulier
    Peter Schilling - Major Tom (Völlig losgelöst)
    Ricky Martin - La Copa de la Vida
    Righeira - Vamos a la playa
    Roch Voisine - Helene
    Rose Laurens - Africa
    Sandra - Maria Magdalena
    Sasha - If You Believe
    Sin With Sebastian - Shut Up (and Sleep with Me)
    Stéphanie - Ouragan
    Supertramp - It’s Raining Again
    Tanita Tikaram - Twist in My Sobriety
    The Kelly Family - An Angel
    Tic Tac Toe - Warum
    Vangelis - Conquest of Paradise
    Vaya Con Dios - What’s a Woman
    Wes - Alane
    Young Deenay - Walk On By
    Zouk Machine - Maldòn
    Zucchero - Il volo

    The Rules:

    - Please score each song out of 10 and give one 11 only, and that to your prized winner; or the song you think may need your help to go all the way!

    - Scoring-wise – we will accept all scores up to 10 including one or two decimal points behind them (ie 9.5, 9.6, 9.7, 9.8 or 9.25 or 9.75)

    - Comments are not compulsory but as you are aware from my participation in previous rates, I really appreciate them, and expect at least something for your 11 and your notable favourites or least favourites!

    - No trolling please!

    Please PM your scores to both @Filippa and @berserkboi
     
    Last edited: Nov 8, 2020
  2. SONGLIST (In Alphabetical Order)

    Alice - Per Elisa
    Andrea Bocelli & Hélène Ségara - Vivo per lei
    Anggun - La neige au Sahara
    Blümchen - Herz an Herz
    Carrapicho - Tic Tic Tac
    David Bowie and Pat Metheny Group - This Is Not America
    David Charvet - Should I Leave
    David Hallyday - Tu ne m’as pas laissé le temps
    Début De Soirée - Nuit de folie
    Demis Roussos - Quand je t'aime
    Die Ärzte - Ein Schwein namens Männer
    DJ Ötzi - Anton aus Tirol
    DÖF - Codo
    Dorothee - Hou! La menteuse!
    Elsa - T’en va pas
    Era - Ameno
    Eros Ramazotti - Più bella chosa
    Falco - Jeanny
    Florent Pagny - Savoir aimer
    Fools’ Garden - Lemon Tree
    Frida - I Know There's Something Going On
    Garou, Patrick Fiori, Daniel Lavoie - Belle
    Gazebo - I Like Chopin
    Helen Schneider - Rock ‘n’ Roll Gypsy
    Herbert Léonard - Pour le plaisir
    Images - Les demons de minuit
    Jean-Jacques Goldman - Je te donne
    Jermaine Jackson, Pia Zadora - When the Rain Begins To Fall
    Khaled - Aicha
    La Compagnie Créole - Le bal masqué
    Liquido - Narcotic
    Manau - La tribu de Dana
    Marie-Claire D’Ubaldo - La magia del ritmo / Non-English
    Matia Bazar - Ti sento
    Mecano - Hijo de la Luna
    Michel Sardou - Les Lacs du Connemara
    Modern Talking - You're My Heart, You're My Soul / '98 Version
    Mory Kanté - Yéké Yéké
    Nana - Lonely
    Nathalie Cardone - Hasta siempre
    Nek - Laura non c’e
    Nena - Irgendwie, irgendwo, irgendwann
    Nick Kamen - I Promised Myself
    Nomads - Yakalelo
    Ofra Haza - Im Nin’Alu
    Partenaire Particulier - Partenaire particulier
    Peter Schilling - Major Tom (Völlig losgelöst)
    Ricky Martin - La Copa de la Vida
    Righeira - Vamos a la playa
    Roch Voisine - Hélène
    Rose Laurens - Africa
    Sandra - Maria Magdalena
    Sasha - If You Believe
    Sin With Sebastian - Shut Up (and Sleep with Me)
    Stéphanie - Ouragan
    Supertramp - It’s Raining Again
    Tanita Tikaram - Twist in My Sobriety
    The Kelly Family - An Angel
    Tic Tac Toe - Warum
    Vangelis - Conquest of Paradise
    Vaya Con Dios - What’s a Woman
    Wes - Alane
    Young Deenay - Walk On By
    Zouk Machine - Maldòn
    Zucchero - Il volo


    Spotify play list:

    https://open.spotify.com/playlist/012h2Us2tjud87q9fOG15C?si=5wyoCzTNQF-XvgwWGA_uQA


    Please vote 'till Novembre 16th.
     
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  3. Results

    Klick at the number and you will be linked to the write-up,
    klick at the artist - song and you will be linked to the song (YouTube).


    Gold: #1 - Frida - I Know There's Something Going On
    Silver: #2 - Sandra - Maria Magdalena
    Bronze: #3 - Nick Kamen - I Promised Myself

    #4 (part 1 / 2) - Matia Bazar - Ți sento
    #5 - Jermain Jackson Pia Zadora - When the Rain Begins to fall

    Top 5 Recap

    #6 - Wes - Alane
    #7 - Tanita Tikaram - Twist in My Sobriety
    #8 - Mecano - Hijo de la luna
    #9 - Ricky Martin - La copa de la vida
    #10 (part 1 / 2) - Anggun - La neige au Sahara

    Top 10 Recap

    #11 - Partenaire Particulier - Partenaire particulier
    #12 - Liquido - Narcotic
    #13 - Peter Schilling - Major Tom
    #14 - Ofra Haza - Im Nin'alu
    #15 - Righeira - Vamos a la playa
    #16 - Images - Les demons de minuit
    #17 - Mory Kanté - Yéké yéké
    #18 - Fool's Garden - Lemon Tree
    #19 - Stéphanie - Ouragon
    #20 - Gazebo - I Like Chopin

    Top 20 Recap

    #21 - Era - Ameno
    #22 - Début de Soirée - Nuit de folie
    #23 - Vangelis - Conquest of Paradise
    #24 - David Bowie / Pat Metheny Group - This Is Not America
    #25 - Modern Talking - You're My Heart, You're My Soul
    #26 - Rose Laurens - Africa
    #27 - Khaled - Aicha
    #28 - Nena - Irgendwie, irgendwo, irgendwann
    #29 - Marie-Claire D'Ubaldo - La magia del ritmo
    #30 - Vaya Con Dios - What's a Woman

    Top 30 Recap

    #31 - Zouk Machine - Maldon
    #32 - Falco - Jeanny
    #32 - Nek - Laura non c'è
    #34 - Andrea Bocelli & Hélène Ségara - Vivo per lei
    #35 - Alice - Per Elisa
    #36 - Tic Tac Toe - Warum
    #37 - Sasha - If You Believe
    #38 - Elsa (Lunghini) - T’en va pas
    #39 - Jean-Jacque Goldman (Goldman / Jones) - Je te donne
    #40 - Carrapicho - Tic Tic Tac
    #41 - Nathalie Cardone - Hasta siempre
    #42 - Eros Ramazzotti - Più bella cosa
    #43 - Manau - La tribu de Dana
    #44 - Nomads - Yakalelo
    #45 - David Hallyday - Tu ne m'as pas laissé le temps
    #46 - Blümchen - Herz an Herz
    #47 - Zucchero - Il volo
    #48 - Michel Sardou - Les lacs du Connemara
    #49 - Supertramp - It's Raining Again
    #50 - Demis Roussos - Quand je t'aime

    Top 50 Recap

    #51 - La Compagnie Créole - Le bal masqué
    #52 - Garou, Patrick Fiori, Daniel Lavoie - Belle
    #53 - Florent Pagny - Savoir aimer
    #54 - David Charvet - Should I Leave
    #55 - Nana - Lonely
    #56 - Sin With Sebastian - Shut Up (and Sleep With Me)
    #57 - Helen Schneider - Rock'n'Roll Gypsy
    #58 - Roch Voisine - Hélène
    #59 - Young Deenay - Walk On By
    #60 - DÖF - Codo
    #61 - Herbert Leonard - Pour le plaisir
    #62 - Die Ärzte - Ein Schwein namens Männer
    #63 - The Kelly Family - An Angel
    #64 - Anton feat. DJ Ötzi - Anton aus Tirol
    #65 - Dorothée - Hou! La menteuse!
     
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  5. Looking forward to @Filippa’s 11 for Modern Talking!!!
     
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  7. @DJHazey (You favourite version of Ameno is here!)
    @ohnoitisnathan (Come and give us some Aussie Chart facts for these tracks!)
    @Doodvid (Don't let down Hasta Siempre!!)
    @Sprockrooster (Belle has vocals for days, you'll stan!)
    @Phonetics Boy (Les Demons De Minuit AND Twist In My Sobriety Whoop Whoop!)
     
  8. Oooo great idea. Lots there I don’t know. A few I do only because they’ve been in PJOPS rates of old and a few others only because they are by western acts.

    I think the Ofra Haza and Peter Schilling songs are fairly well known in the UK and I think Major Tom was even a minor hit in the US? In those days people could even have hits in their native tongue - like Nena and Falco.

    I wonder why the UK needed an English version of 99 Luftballons but the US didn’t?
     
  9. The success in the US happened rather accidently. Christiane Felscherinow was in the US promoting the movie "Christiane F. - Wir Kinder vom Bahnhof Zoo" and was in a show by a guy called Rodney Bingenheimer asked which songs she liked and she chose 99 Luftballons. And the guy liked it and kept playing it. That's what I read in Christiane Felscherinow's biography ...
     
  10. @berserkboi currently hosting a double rounds of PJ00s, the PJRetro second chances round and this... that's a lot of work.
     
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  11. Ok. Looking up at the list, my 11 might actually be going to Male Vocals this time, though.
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  12. I refuse to participate in this rate since France Gall is not included.

    Just kidding. I'm ready!
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