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Ooooh! That is a very pretty song indeed! Thank you @Epic Chocolat !!
The 80s-90s Lost Classics Rate - Goodbye Wes! :'-(
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So many men I want to render popjustice to, so little time!
My fave by Flo is J'te jure, in my mind it's a song about his break-up with Vanessa. The video is fun, he's dancing with famous choreographer Redha.
My fave written by co-participant in this rate Jean-Jacques Goldman under the pseudonym Sam Brewski:
Florent Pagny - Est-Ce Que Tu Me Suis?
In Italian
Florent Pagny - Io Le Canto Per Te
The last fave to date (from 2006 where did the time go?):
Là Où Je T'Emmènerai
Thank you for those.
My favourite book is 'Wuthering Heights.' I read it for the first time when I was 14, fell in love with it and it's been my favourite ever since.
8 I only like about five musicals so I was doubtful about this at first, but I listened to it in the middle of the night, and it really came alive. Then when I discovered what the lyrics meant, and put this with my knowledge of the original source material, I came to love the song. I'll have a listen to the whole musical at some point.
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Off topic, but this feels like the best place to share one of the most underrated Christmas versions I was listening to today in the shower.
A child was born, his name was Jesus, now I gotta go Merry Christmas!
A child was born, his name was Jesus, now I gotta go Merry Christmas!
At the very beginning Israeli chanteuse Noa was supposed to play Esmeralda. I like both versions of Vivre. Proof that 1 song can have simultaneously 2 iconic performers, see also How Do I Live.
Noa - Vivre
Hélène Ségara - Vivre
And Céline's English cover!
Céline Dion - Live For The One I Love
The musical was also the launching pad for Julie Zenatti who played Fleur de Lys. She used to go out with Patrick Fiori who wrote songs with and for her.
Si je m'en sors (co-written by Patrick Fiori)
Why
Speaking of Patrick's exes, this duet brings all the feels. To bad the video is in poor quality.
Lara Fabian et Patrick Fiori - La Différence
Si je m'en sors (co-written by Patrick Fiori)
Why
Speaking of Patrick's exes, this duet brings all the feels. To bad the video is in poor quality.
Lara Fabian et Patrick Fiori - La Différence
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Just preparing the next cut now - and there is something a little different to this one!
Is it by a Frenchman? Is it in French at all? I'll just spoil that @Untouchable Ace is the high scorer for it! Dddd
Is it by a Frenchman? Is it in French at all? I'll just spoil that @Untouchable Ace is the high scorer for it! Dddd
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Part Quatre is upon us..... Is a twist incoming??
Guess what - a woman goes this time!!
#51
La Compagnie Créole - Le Bal Masqué
Picked By: Berserkboi
Credentials: #6 France (31 weeks on the chart), 400000 copies sold, Certified GOLD by InfoDisc
Average Score: 6.697
Highest Score: 8.6 @Untouchable Ace
Lowest Score: 3 @Filippa @DominoDancing
So it looks like #TeamGermany could not wait to kick this little song out! I think this is the only time in the rate Filippa and DominoDancing are due to tie as Lowest Scorers for a song. As you can see from the achievements alone, Le Bal Masqué was a heart pick by one of your hosts, rather than a head pick - compare this to Belle and it achieved peanuts by comparison.
I wanted some representation from a Creole act somewhere due to my cultural background and icons La Compagnie Créole was always gonna have something included. My main trouble with them was all the conflicting information about which of their hits was actually the biggest - since some looked to have been certified for Sales that did not seem possible since they did not crack the Top 10 in France at the time, nor did they have the longevity on the chart I’d have expected for them. Le Bal Masqué, with its 31 weeks on the chart and a #6 peak seemed most plausible in achieving what was needed to qualify for the rate and thus got included!
Unfortunately as per my original commentary: “@berserkboi - 8.1 - Similar to Dorothee, represented by one of their weakest singles - let’s collectively bring their best to PJ Retro soon, hey? They’d qualify!” I do find this to be their weakest effort so I could not support them with a very high score here. I will post other recommendations below, which are pretty much instant 12 s from me (and potentially @iheartpoptarts) if you ever submit them as the music of La Compagnie Créole is literal joy to my ears, which is a good counterpart to most of my depressing balladry picks ddd.
La Compagnie Créole is/was made up of members Clémence Bringtown, José Sébéloué, Julien Tarquin, Guy Bevert, and ex-member Arthur Apatout who originated from French Guiana and the French West Indies. They formed in 1975, with their first album released in 1976 (anything from this album may qualify for Retro’s current round *hint hint*) in Creole, but they hit it big when they switched to French with a string of hits in the early-mid 80s.
Though their commercial peak was definitely in the 80s, their music certainly still resonates with a French public to this day. Le Bal Masqué (best translated as The Masquerade Ball) is a track you’d most likely hear at any Francophone party event - cementing that despite not breaking records the way many other picks here have, La Compagnie Créole belongs in 80s French Music DNA.
What did PopJustice think of these Party People?
@daninternational (6) loses his highest score in this string of Filippa’s Revenge - Hits straight from the start. I thought it was going to go into D.I.S.C.O for a minute. It definitely has that novelty feel, and they throw a bit too many things at it. @Ezz [Hello icon @eric with a recent name change!!] (8) is all for hearing this one at a Francophone party! - I'd definitely dance to this after some wine. @Maki (6,75) was kind enough to prepare some commentary for this one, and will be happy this was the first exotic song to fall by the sounds of it! ~ This pales a bit compared to the other uplifting exotic songs. Still likeable, though.
@DominoDancing (3) clearly does not see the absolute joy of listing potential costume ideas including Becassine, Superman and Speederman - WTF? @Epic Chocolat (7,5) takes this to another event, and I can definitely see this one blowing up there too! - I wish Mardi-Gras was more popular in Metropolitan France. @WowWowWowWow (8) must have had Scott Speederman on the brain when writing this one and we will say Creole Kings & Queens for the subliminal imagery! - I don't know what is happening but I do not hate it!
@Filippa (3) did a cringe! - Ok not so much for me. @MilesAngel (7.5) potentially hits it on the head with the French Boney M comparison! - This is like a cross between Boney M and Ottawan, but not quite as good. However it is enjoyable to listen to. @jtm (3.4) is not taking any prisoners again this time, and when will his zero fall exactly? - This is complete trash. I don‘t understand the lyrics completely but I think they support my score as well.
In COVID-19 Pandemic when many of our "icons" have been showing their ass, it is really nice to see our Creole Kings & Queens here are promoting wearing masks while out!
This release is their biggest hit from the 70s for easy Berserky points *hint hint*
My absolute favourite by them, reminds me of my trip to Reunion Island when I was a child and sang it with our host family all the time! PopTarts - this is the one!!
Here is their supposed Million Seller, not that I could find the Chart Facts to support it:
Guess what - a woman goes this time!!
#51
La Compagnie Créole - Le Bal Masqué
Picked By: Berserkboi
Credentials: #6 France (31 weeks on the chart), 400000 copies sold, Certified GOLD by InfoDisc
Average Score: 6.697
Highest Score: 8.6 @Untouchable Ace
Lowest Score: 3 @Filippa @DominoDancing
So it looks like #TeamGermany could not wait to kick this little song out! I think this is the only time in the rate Filippa and DominoDancing are due to tie as Lowest Scorers for a song. As you can see from the achievements alone, Le Bal Masqué was a heart pick by one of your hosts, rather than a head pick - compare this to Belle and it achieved peanuts by comparison.
I wanted some representation from a Creole act somewhere due to my cultural background and icons La Compagnie Créole was always gonna have something included. My main trouble with them was all the conflicting information about which of their hits was actually the biggest - since some looked to have been certified for Sales that did not seem possible since they did not crack the Top 10 in France at the time, nor did they have the longevity on the chart I’d have expected for them. Le Bal Masqué, with its 31 weeks on the chart and a #6 peak seemed most plausible in achieving what was needed to qualify for the rate and thus got included!
Unfortunately as per my original commentary: “@berserkboi - 8.1 - Similar to Dorothee, represented by one of their weakest singles - let’s collectively bring their best to PJ Retro soon, hey? They’d qualify!” I do find this to be their weakest effort so I could not support them with a very high score here. I will post other recommendations below, which are pretty much instant 12 s from me (and potentially @iheartpoptarts) if you ever submit them as the music of La Compagnie Créole is literal joy to my ears, which is a good counterpart to most of my depressing balladry picks ddd.
La Compagnie Créole is/was made up of members Clémence Bringtown, José Sébéloué, Julien Tarquin, Guy Bevert, and ex-member Arthur Apatout who originated from French Guiana and the French West Indies. They formed in 1975, with their first album released in 1976 (anything from this album may qualify for Retro’s current round *hint hint*) in Creole, but they hit it big when they switched to French with a string of hits in the early-mid 80s.
Though their commercial peak was definitely in the 80s, their music certainly still resonates with a French public to this day. Le Bal Masqué (best translated as The Masquerade Ball) is a track you’d most likely hear at any Francophone party event - cementing that despite not breaking records the way many other picks here have, La Compagnie Créole belongs in 80s French Music DNA.
What did PopJustice think of these Party People?
@daninternational (6) loses his highest score in this string of Filippa’s Revenge - Hits straight from the start. I thought it was going to go into D.I.S.C.O for a minute. It definitely has that novelty feel, and they throw a bit too many things at it. @Ezz [Hello icon @eric with a recent name change!!] (8) is all for hearing this one at a Francophone party! - I'd definitely dance to this after some wine. @Maki (6,75) was kind enough to prepare some commentary for this one, and will be happy this was the first exotic song to fall by the sounds of it! ~ This pales a bit compared to the other uplifting exotic songs. Still likeable, though.
@DominoDancing (3) clearly does not see the absolute joy of listing potential costume ideas including Becassine, Superman and Speederman - WTF? @Epic Chocolat (7,5) takes this to another event, and I can definitely see this one blowing up there too! - I wish Mardi-Gras was more popular in Metropolitan France. @WowWowWowWow (8) must have had Scott Speederman on the brain when writing this one and we will say Creole Kings & Queens for the subliminal imagery! - I don't know what is happening but I do not hate it!
@Filippa (3) did a cringe! - Ok not so much for me. @MilesAngel (7.5) potentially hits it on the head with the French Boney M comparison! - This is like a cross between Boney M and Ottawan, but not quite as good. However it is enjoyable to listen to. @jtm (3.4) is not taking any prisoners again this time, and when will his zero fall exactly? - This is complete trash. I don‘t understand the lyrics completely but I think they support my score as well.
In COVID-19 Pandemic when many of our "icons" have been showing their ass, it is really nice to see our Creole Kings & Queens here are promoting wearing masks while out!
This release is their biggest hit from the 70s for easy Berserky points *hint hint*
My absolute favourite by them, reminds me of my trip to Reunion Island when I was a child and sang it with our host family all the time! PopTarts - this is the one!!
Here is their supposed Million Seller, not that I could find the Chart Facts to support it:
Not a very high score for top scorer unfortunately.
Is that the last sub-9 top score?
Is that the last sub-9 top score?
Yeah I don't know. This read - especially due to the visuals - as very "look at this *-_-*exotic*-_-* act" to me, in a rather cringy way. And since I didn't like the song itself either, it was a low score from me.
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This is amazing,wish I'd have read it before sending in my Retro submission this time!
Part Quatre is upon us..... Is a twist incoming??
Guess what - a woman goes this time!!
#51
La Compagnie Créole - Le Bal Masqué
Picked By: Berserkboi
Credentials: #6 France (31 weeks on the chart), 400000 copies sold, Certified GOLD by InfoDisc
Average Score: 6.697
Highest Score: 8.6 @Untouchable Ace
Lowest Score: 3 @Filippa @DominoDancing
So it looks like #TeamGermany could not wait to kick this little song out! I think this is the only time in the rate Filippa and DominoDancing are due to tie as Lowest Scorers for a song. As you can see from the achievements alone, Le Bal Masqué was a heart pick by one of your hosts, rather than a head pick - compare this to Belle and it achieved peanuts by comparison.
I wanted some representation from a Creole act somewhere due to my cultural background and icons La Compagnie Créole was always gonna have something included. My main trouble with them was all the conflicting information about which of their hits was actually the biggest - since some looked to have been certified for Sales that did not seem possible since they did not crack the Top 10 in France at the time, nor did they have the longevity on the chart I’d have expected for them. Le Bal Masqué, with its 31 weeks on the chart and a #6 peak seemed most plausible in achieving what was needed to qualify for the rate and thus got included!
Unfortunately as per my original commentary: “@berserkboi - 8.1 - Similar to Dorothee, represented by one of their weakest singles - let’s collectively bring their best to PJ Retro soon, hey? They’d qualify!” I do find this to be their weakest effort so I could not support them with a very high score here. I will post other recommendations below, which are pretty much instant 12 s from me (and potentially @iheartpoptarts) if you ever submit them as the music of La Compagnie Créole is literal joy to my ears, which is a good counterpart to most of my depressing balladry picks ddd.
La Compagnie Créole is/was made up of members Clémence Bringtown, José Sébéloué, Julien Tarquin, Guy Bevert, and ex-member Arthur Apatout who originated from French Guiana and the French West Indies. They formed in 1975, with their first album released in 1976 (anything from this album may qualify for Retro’s current round *hint hint*) in Creole, but they hit it big when they switched to French with a string of hits in the early-mid 80s.
Though their commercial peak was definitely in the 80s, their music certainly still resonates with a French public to this day. Le Bal Masqué (best translated as The Masquerade Ball) is a track you’d most likely hear at any Francophone party event - cementing that despite not breaking records the way many other picks here have, La Compagnie Créole belongs in 80s French Music DNA.
What did PopJustice think of these Party People?
@daninternational (6) loses his highest score in this string of Filippa’s Revenge - Hits straight from the start. I thought it was going to go into D.I.S.C.O for a minute. It definitely has that novelty feel, and they throw a bit too many things at it. @Ezz [Hello icon @eric with a recent name change!!] (8) is all for hearing this one at a Francophone party! - I'd definitely dance to this after some wine. @Maki (6,75) was kind enough to prepare some commentary for this one, and will be happy this was the first exotic song to fall by the sounds of it! ~ This pales a bit compared to the other uplifting exotic songs. Still likeable, though.
@DominoDancing (3) clearly does not see the absolute joy of listing potential costume ideas including Becassine, Superman and Speederman - WTF? @Epic Chocolat (7,5) takes this to another event, and I can definitely see this one blowing up there too! - I wish Mardi-Gras was more popular in Metropolitan France. @WowWowWowWow (8) must have had Scott Speederman on the brain when writing this one and we will say Creole Kings & Queens for the subliminal imagery! - I don't know what is happening but I do not hate it!
@Filippa (3) did a cringe! - Ok not so much for me. @MilesAngel (7.5) potentially hits it on the head with the French Boney M comparison! - This is like a cross between Boney M and Ottawan, but not quite as good. However it is enjoyable to listen to. @jtm (3.4) is not taking any prisoners again this time, and when will his zero fall exactly? - This is complete trash. I don‘t understand the lyrics completely but I think they support my score as well.
In COVID-19 Pandemic when many of our "icons" have been showing their ass, it is really nice to see our Creole Kings & Queens here are promoting wearing masks while out!
This release is their biggest hit from the 70s for easy Berserky points *hint hint*
My absolute favourite by them, reminds me of my trip to Reunion Island when I was a child and sang it with our host family all the time! PopTarts - this is the one!!
Here is their supposed Million Seller, not that I could find the Chart Facts to support it:
After reading the write-up and looking at the still pictures I was actually hesitating to hit the play button.
I expected much worse! I´m a sucker for these syncopated rhythms, so I can´t hate.
Oh, and then I noticed that Ba Moin En Ti Bo was one year later "borrowed" for a German Schlager atrocity: 7 Fässer Wein by Roland Kaiser. Interestingly the credits for the original are "Traditional", while Kaisers version has two writers credits. Those sneaky Schlager snakes.
I expected much worse! I´m a sucker for these syncopated rhythms, so I can´t hate.
Oh, and then I noticed that Ba Moin En Ti Bo was one year later "borrowed" for a German Schlager atrocity: 7 Fässer Wein by Roland Kaiser. Interestingly the credits for the original are "Traditional", while Kaisers version has two writers credits. Those sneaky Schlager snakes.
Belle was written by Canadian songwriter Luc Plamondon and Franco-Italian singer-songwriter Richard Cocciante.#52
Garou, Patrick Fiori, Daniel Lavoie - Belle
First some of my favorite songs by Luc:
Céline Dion - L'amour existe encore
Diane Tell - La légende de Jimmy
Catherine Lara - Nuit magique
Cyndi Lauper - The World Is Stone
Richard Cocciante et Fabienne Thibeault - Question de feeling
Garou - Seul
Julien Clerc - Quand je joue
Diane Dufresne - J'ai rencontré l'homme de ma vie
Luc Plamondon Juno Hall Of Fame Induction pt1
Two song by Richard, in French and in Italian.
Notre Histoire
Il Mio Rifugio
Garou has many hits, right now I'm into Reviens.
Garou - Reviens
All the songs written by JJ Goldman for Patrick Fiori are tiptop.
Patrick Fiori - Toutes les peines
Garou was part of Rat Pack-like supergroup with co-participant Roch Voisine.
Forever Gentlemen wish you a Merry Christmas 2016!
Notre Histoire
Il Mio Rifugio
Garou has many hits, right now I'm into Reviens.
Garou - Reviens
All the songs written by JJ Goldman for Patrick Fiori are tiptop.
Patrick Fiori - Toutes les peines
Garou was part of Rat Pack-like supergroup with co-participant Roch Voisine.
Forever Gentlemen wish you a Merry Christmas 2016!
This is a Rat Pack I can get behind!
EDIT - Roch Voisine looks like Colin Firth in this!
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It is indeed! The next lowest (when looking at the score board quickly this morning) is a 9.1, most of the other songs got at least a 9.5!
There's always next round, my dear! Which track is your favourite so far?
Ha! Sad state of affairs, and still in some ways very reflective of society now where multicultural outlooks/views are glossed over.
You may be on to something in terms of money thrown the act's way for promotion/branding. The music of La Compagnie Créole has a street festive quality that the label probably leaned on and didn't spend so much money getting them more polished videos, which kinda suits the music - but considering the amount of money they were making for Carrere (Record sales estimated at around 6 million for all their output) - you'd think the investment would progressively increase and develop.
It's very interesting how a short few years later Zouk Machine would have a more polished brand to promote, but we'll get to that #soon!
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Top 50 Recap!
Alice - Per Elisa
Andrea Bocelli & Hélène Ségara - Vivo per lei
Anggun - La neige au Sahara
Blümchen - Herz an Herz
Carrapicho - Tic Tic Tac
David Bowie and Pat Metheny Group - This Is Not America
David Hallyday - Tu ne m’as pas laissé le temps
Début De Soirée - Nuit de folie
Demis Roussos - Quand je t'aime
DJ Ötzi - Anton aus Tirol
DÖF - Codo
Dorothee - Hou! La menteuse!
Elsa - T’en va pas
Era - Ameno
Eros Ramazotti - Più bella chosa
Falco - Jeanny
Fools’ Garden - Lemon Tree
Frida - I Know There's Something Going On
Gazebo - I Like Chopin
Images - Les demons de minuit
Jean-Jacques Goldman - Je te donne
Jermaine Jackson, Pia Zadora - When the Rain Begins To Fall
Khaled - Aicha
Liquido - Narcotic
Manau - La tribu de Dana
Marie-Claire D’Ubaldo - La magia del ritmo / Non-English
Matia Bazar - Ti sento
Mecano - Hijo de la Luna
Michel Sardou - Les Lacs du Connemara
Modern Talking - You're My Heart, You're My Soul / '98 Version
Mory Kanté - Yéké Yéké
Nathalie Cardone - Hasta siempre
Nek - Laura non c’e
Nena - Irgendwie, irgendwo, irgendwann
Nik Kamen - I Promised Myself
Nomads - Yakalelo
Ofra Haza - Im Nin’Alu
Partenaire Particulier - Partenaire particulier
Peter Schilling - Major Tom (Völlig losgelöst)
Ricky Martin - La Copa de la Vida
Righeira - Vamos a la playa
Rose Laurens - Africa
Sandra - Maria Magdalena
Sasha - If You Believe
Stéphanie - Ouragan
Supertramp - It’s Raining Again
Tanita Tikaram - Twist in My Sobriety
Tic Tac Toe - Warum
Vangelis - Conquest of Paradise
Vaya Con Dios - What’s a Woman
Wes - Alane
Zouk Machine - Maldòn
Zucchero - Il volo
- As we cut the next 10 and get into the Top 40, a few 11s will fall!
- One of the songs without a highest score of 10 will fall!
- A variety of languages and styles are also bidding us adieu!
- Filippa has lost 8 songs and Berserkboi have lost 7 songs, which is quite even considering where we started with Filippa losing so many until her revenge. How will this change as we reach the Top 40?
- Filippa now has 25 picks left, Berserkboi has 23 and we have 2 wildcards here! The wildcards are tracks we came to the decision to include together. More on those #soon!
Let us know who you are hoping we are losing ASAP!
Wtf. Are you mad? How dare you! It is among the top 5 songs of the rate.
How on brand for my 11 picks in a foreign language rate.
These songs can go so I have 7+ left:
- Alice - Per Elisa
- Blümchen - Herz an Herz
- David Hallyday - Tu ne m’as pas laissé le temps
- Début De Soirée - Nuit de folie
- Demis Roussos - Quand je t'aime
- Elsa - T’en va pas
- Images - Les demons de minuit
- Modern Talking - You're My Heart, You're My Soul
- Nek - Laura non c’e
- Ofra Haza - Im Nin’Alu
- Partenaire Particulier - Partenaire particulier
- Peter Schilling - Major Tom (Völlig losgelöst)
- Sandra - Maria Magdalena
- Supertramp - It’s Raining Again
- Zouk Machine - Maldòn