The 80s-90s Lost Classics Rate - Goodbye Wes! :'-(

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Top 40 Recap!

Alice - Per Elisa
Andrea Bocelli & Hélène Ségara - Vivo per lei
Anggun - La neige au Sahara
Blümchen - Herz an Herz
Carrapicho - Tic Tic Tac
David Bowie and Pat Metheny Group - This Is Not America
David Charvet - Should I Leave
David Hallyday - Tu ne m’as pas laissé le temps
Début De Soirée - Nuit de folie
Demis Roussos - Quand je t'aime
Die Ärzte - Ein Schwein namens Männer
DJ Ötzi - Anton aus Tirol
DÖF - Codo

Dorothee - Hou! La menteuse!

Elsa - T’en va pas
Era - Ameno
Eros Ramazotti - Più bella chosa
Falco - Jeanny
Florent Pagny - Savoir aimer
Fools’ Garden - Lemon Tree
Frida - I Know There's Something Going On
Garou, Patrick Fiori, Daniel Lavoie - Belle
Gazebo - I Like Chopin
Helen Schneider - Rock ‘n’ Roll Gypsy
Herbert Léonard - Pour le plaisir

Images - Les demons de minuit
Jean-Jacques Goldman - Je te donne
Jermaine Jackson, Pia Zadora - When the Rain Begins To Fall
Khaled - Aicha
La Compagnie Créole - Le bal masqué
Liquido - Narcotic
Manau - La tribu de Dana
Marie-Claire D’Ubaldo - La magia del ritmo / Non-English
Matia Bazar - Ti sento
Mecano - Hijo de la Luna
Michel Sardou - Les Lacs du Connemara
Modern Talking - You're My Heart, You're My Soul / '98 Version
Mory Kanté - Yéké Yéké
Nana - Lonely
Nathalie Cardone - Hasta siempre

Nek - Laura non c’e
Nena - Irgendwie, irgendwo, irgendwann
Nik Kamen - I Promised Myself
Nomads - Yakalelo
Ofra Haza - Im Nin’Alu
Partenaire Particulier - Partenaire particulier
Peter Schilling - Major Tom (Völlig losgelöst)
Ricky Martin - La Copa de la Vida
Righeira - Vamos a la playa
Roch Voisine - Hélène
Rose Laurens - Africa
Sandra - Maria Magdalena
Sasha - If You Believe
Sin With Sebastian - Shut Up (and Sleep with Me)
Stéphanie - Ouragan
Supertramp - It’s Raining Again
Tanita Tikaram - Twist in My Sobriety
The Kelly Family - An Angel
Tic Tac Toe - Warum
Vangelis - Conquest of Paradise
Vaya Con Dios - What’s a Woman
Wes - Alane
Young Deenay - Walk On By
Zouk Machine - Maldòn
Zucchero - Il volo

Team Berserky 11s that have fallen - @Maki @Ezz @Penguin
Team Filippa 11s that have fallen - @Ana Raquel

- The road to the Top 30 is only due to take two 11s, so we will celebrate that!
- The only remaining song without a high score of 10 goes!
- A variety of languages and styles are also bidding us adieu!
- Filippa has lost 12 songs and Berserkboi have lost 13 songs, still quite even but I am now the one with the most losses thus far. How will this change as we reach the Top 30?
- Filippa now has 21 picks left, Berserkboi has 17 and we have 2 wildcards here!
- Yep, Team Berserky was very victimised this time around - let's hope for less cuts for us in the next 10, though I sadly have to make the first elimination! Dddd (which will either come tomorrow or New Year's Day as I have a dinner to attend)

Again - let us know who you are hoping we are losing sooner rather than later!
 
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I mentioned that it was bad news for Mourir Sur Scène stans for my block a while back…..






































I lost Michel, Demis and Manau - so I am safe (or am I?)











































Sprocket lost Michel and Zucchero, will he suffer another blow?



















































If You Go said goodbye to both Demis, Manau and Nathalie - has she suffered enough?
























































Let’s turn to the two who suffered the most - Maki and Ana Raquel both lost their 11, is it one of them who takes another blow?











































































Well……





















































It’s both! :(







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Carrapicho - Tic Tic Tac
Picked By: Berserkboi
Credentials:
#1 France (3 Weeks), 29 Weeks On Chart, First Song To Be Certified DIAMOND in France, 98th Best Selling Single Of All Time In France, 1000000 Units SOLD, 2nd Best Selling Single of 1996 in France, #2 Belgium, Austria, #3 Spain, #2 Song Of The Year 1996 in Mauritius (not that this one matters much ddd)
Average Score: 7.2568
Highest Score: 10 @Ana Raquel @Maki
Lowest Score: 4 @If You Go

Here’s a song I wasn’t expecting to see go so soon. Sadly for Tic Tic Tac - despite getting decent scores throughout voting, it also received fairly average ones causing any gain it made on the leaderboard (at one point in the Top 30) to crash back towards the low 30s. We have the song here as it truly is a song that reminds me of my late childhood in a visual way. Similar to Lambada when we discussed it, Tic Tic Tac having a dance routine made my life back then - and I have many happy memories of my cousins and me dancing to it together. We loved it so much back on the island that it looked poised to dethrone Macarena on our yearly Song Of The Year countdown, but it was not to be.

Very much a Lost Classic - Tic Tic Tac was mentioned by both @soratami and Maki as a song they’ve known their whole life, though never one they knew the name of - so it brings me great pleasure that they now know it forever!

The song was originally produced for the Folkloric Festival of Parintins in 1992. This festival is one of the largest annual celebrations in Brazil and takes place during 3 days in late June. The festival itself celebrates a local legend about a resurrected ox, where two teams Garantido and Caprichoso compete in extended retellings of the story with flamboyant dances, singing and parade floats. Each nightly performance is based on local Amazonian folklore and indigenous culture, incorporating Brazilian rhythms and themes.

Despite the importance of the festival to the Amazonas region of Brazil - it only became widely known after the release of Tic Tic Tac! The lyrics of Tic Tic Tac are all about the greatness and strength of the Amazon River, a song of praise in many ways. It was only in 1994 that Carrapicho (music group from the Amazon region) recorded the music in a ‘solo’ version (I’d say in this instance solo would refer to the act’s instrumentation and vocals only) and were discovered by Patrick Bruel (more on him later). TF1 decided to sponsor the song (like they would do 2 years later with Yakalelo) - turning it into one of the major summer hits that year leading to all the credentials above!

Carrapicho was created in 1980 in Manaus, featuring natives of the Amazonas state in Brazil. They worked regionally for 15 years before their big break with Tic Tic Tac and are credited with selling 15 million records around the world. I would suspect more of their output to be PJ Retro eligible so I look forward to hearing them there soon!

@jtm (7) also has memories with this one - This seemed very familiar. Google reveals there‘s a Frank Farian produced cover version by ‚Chili feat Carrapicho‘ which must be the one I knew. @TéléDex (5) brings me a title I am not familiar with, nor can I find the track in question, feel free to link when you get a chance, I’d love to know a song I’d give points to! - Nothing that is extraordinary, unlike Carmen, which I’m glad (to assume) that @berserkboi would give that song points. The melody was just loopy here.

@WowWowWowWow (7.5) appreciates, though I expected a higher score when I added this to the playlist I must admit! Ddd - Entirely acceptable! @Filippa (7) gets right to it, and yes considering how much the Amazon River gives - entirely deserved! - This is pure joie de vivre! @Ana Raquel (10) is me when I heard it again after a few years! - OMG THISSSSSSS it has been so loooong since I've listened to it!!!

@DominoDancing (6.5) is still not as fond of my picks as I was hoping! Dddd - Passable I guess. Although I at least prefer this version over the Chili version, which sounded too desperate. @saviodxl (9) is learning a lot today, and let me tell you, to me it was not just a hit, it was a massive Pop Culture moment when I grew up! - I literally had no idea this was a hit outside my homeland. I still see this track as a joke and whenever it is played at parties it is along the "joke" acts that shouldn't be taken too seriously or even when the DJ is playing kids music. That's its charm! I learnt how to appreciate it and its easily reproducible choreography, so it's not a 10 'cause this song has certain moments when it's suitable, but certainly lots of moments when it's not!

@daninternational (7) is another in the Chilli corner - this sounds incredibly familiar but from a different song I can't place. That version is better :p @MilesAngel (6.5) is somewhat into it! - This is a bit repetitive which I get is the point, but it's better to dance to then just listen to. @berserkboi’s (9.6) original commentary - A song so huge in Mauritius, it was thought it could dislodge Macarena from the Top Spot of Song Of The Year! Listening to it now, I enjoy just as much as before but there is stronger music here so a 10 is not possible!

30 Years On, and still amazing!


The version with Chilli a lot of you knew! Can't say I am a fan, it sounds like the song put through a Macarena mixer dddd


A track by Carrapicho I enjoyed discovering!


I mentioned Patrick Bruel discovering Carrapicho, and he is an important figure of French music. I initially thought of including him in the rate but he seemed a lot more an album artist than a 'single' one - with his bigger hits not really reaching the sales threshold I was after for inclusion. Here are a couple of his big hits for you! Both made #3 in France!



 
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Carrapicho - Tic Tic Tac
Picked By: Berserkboi
Credentials:
#1 France (3 Weeks), 29 Weeks On Chart, First Song To Be Certified DIAMOND in France, 98th Best Selling Single Of All Time In France, 1000000 Units SOLD, 2nd Best Selling SIngle of 1996 in France, #2 Belgium, Austria, #3 Spain, #2 Song Of The Year 1996 in Mauritius (not that this one matters much ddd)
Average Score: 7.2568
@TéléDex (5) brings me a title I am not familiar with, nor can I find the track in question, feel free to link when you get a chance, I’d love to know a song I’d give points to! - Nothing that is extraordinary, unlike Carmen, which I’m glad (to assume) that @berserkboi would give that song points. The melody was just loopy here.
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This song was vetoed last year.

 

@MilesAngel (6.5) gets the location a little off but I think it fits sonically and would be something I’d stan big time had it found its way in the 90s Eurodance Rate! - Great example of 90's Eurodance. I really like the bleepy synths and garage beats.​
I've just realised that this was my commentary for Blumchen's Herz an Herz, which is the song just above Carrapicho on the list. My comments are Tic Tic Tac are below (and they're rubbish) -
This is a bit repetitive which I get is the point, but it's better to dance to then just listen to.
 
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I've just realised that this was my commentary for Blumchen's Herz an Herz, which is the song just above Carrapicho. My comments are Tic Tic Tac are below (and they're rubbish) -
This is a bit repetitive which I get is the point, but it's better to dance to then just listen to.
My apologies for those being extracted wrong! Let me fix the Elimination post now!
 
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Tonight one of my choices sadly leaves us. Far too early if you ask me!


































And I hear "Oh no not any of those lovely Austrian / German / Swiss songs again"









































or "Oh no please none of these absolutely gorgeous Italian ballads!"






















or "Ha, which international act has to go now?"






































Oh none of these statements above reflects your opinion? Then I really have to disappoint you.


































But that's nothing in comparison how disappointed @berserkboi and myself are. One of the only three songs which we both rated exactly the same: 10 points! And you throw it out like that?









































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Jean-Jacques Goldman
Goldman / Jones - Je te donne


Picked By: @Filippa
Credentials: Platinum in France, #1 in France (about 1.000.000 units sold)
Average Score: 7.2614
Highest Score: 10 @berserkboi, @Filippa
Lowest Score: 3.1 @saviodxl

Well, I guess, I don't need to tell you how popular Jean-Jacques Goldman is in France. To date, publications with Goldman participation have achieved silver, gold, platinum and diamond status more than 170 times in France alone. “Je te donne” is one of the best-selling singles of the 80s in France. And don't forget Celine Dion's D’eux album, written and produced by Goldman, is the world's most successful French-language album.

But let us focus on his collaboration with Michael Jones a bit, just because he is the second singer of "Je te donne" and no-one really knows him ...

Welsh Michael Jones went to France on vacation at the age 19 and never left again.

Jean-Jacques Goldman started his musical career as member of the band Taï Phong, a French progressive rockband, in 1975. Both met when Jones joined Taï Phong in 1977, Jones' job then was to replace Jean-Jacques Goldman on tour.

After Taï Phong disbanded in 1980 both were busy with different projects, but soon Michael Jones supported Jean-Jacques Goldman on tour and in 1985 they wrote this lovely song together (Michael Jones is credited for the English lyrics). In the 90s the “Fredericks Goldman Jones” trio was established and remained active until 1996. The members were Carole Fredericks (sister of Taj Mahal), Jean-Jacque Goldman and Michael Jones and they released two successful albums together. Despite the prominence of Jean-Jacques Goldman all three were involved as equal partners in the group. And they say that all three remained close friends ‘till today. At least they continued to perform on special concerts together.

I learned to my surprise that “Je te donne” isn’t meant as a love song in the traditional meaning. The idea to this song was born as reaction to the growing popularity of the “Front national”, the right-wing movement in France, in the 80s. The two guys intended to highlight the benefits and the importance of multiculturalism and to respect the differences between people.
When I realised that @berserkboi hadn't Jean-Jacques Goldman on his list of suggestions I was very quick to nominate this song because it's actually one of my favourite French songs ever. This song makes me smile every time I hear it because of the enthusiasm of both of the singers and the way it slowly starts and finally explodes into those feel-good vibes ... now that I know the meaning I love it even more.


What did PopJustice think?

@jtm (6.1) Nice enough

@Ezz (7) Love a good duet (if possibly a slightly odd pairing?)

@saviodxl (3.1) It's a Michael Bolton or Bryan Adams ballad, but in a foreign language. Just not my cup of tea, but hey, the single delusional women of the 80s and 90s probably loved it!

@DominoDancing (8) A male/male duet with a mixture of French and English? Not really something you come across often. Quite lovely, although the verses are better than the chorus.

@Filippa (10) I love this song. There is so much beauty, power and good feeling. I’m in 80s heaven.

@WowWowWowWow (7.5) When it picks up toward the end, that saved it for me from being one of my lower scores.

@daninternational (7) Michael Jones has to be a new low for 'pick an English name it sounds cooler'. The song is pleasant

@MilesAngel (7) I like this, almost like two songs in one. The first half has a light airy quality but the second half is a little more rocky.

@berserkboi (10) Jean-Jacques est un talent beyond our wildest dreams! You can thank Filippa for including one of his amazing songs, as to me he is so iconic I’d consider running a Singles Rate for him! Ddddd

Here's an acoustic version of Je te donne:


Taï Phong - Sister Jane


Jean-Jacque Goldman - Quand la musique est bonne


Jean-Jacque Goldman - La vie par procuration


Fredericks Jones Goldman - A nos actes manqués
 
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As I mentioned in my commentary - I did not even consider nominating Jean-Jacques myself as I would not have known where to begin! His output is that strong, diverse, commercial bank and iconic - I automatically think Singles Rate at a bare minimum! Thanks so much to @Filippa for giving him a long overdue profile!

Here are some absolute highlights of his discography for me - all move me to tears!







 
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Much like Michel Sardou - Jean-Jacques' discography has seen many covers and re-adaptations in different genres over the years!

@saviodxl - A Eurodance Version with Hot Men of Je Te Donne for you - a 10 for you, I am sure Ddd


(Their French was really awful at that point, they got much better by Quan Je Reve De Toi ddd)

@WowWowWowWow favourite and usually a killer of Dalida covers (not the good kind) - he fares okay here:



@londonrain - you may enjoy this Melgroove cover of a Jean-Jacques favourite!

 

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