The 80s-90s Lost Classics Rate - Goodbye Wes! :'-(

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@soratami and @MilesAngel have already called for it, but I am a bit sad that this song leaves. It's one of my 10 pointers, but I have to admit there isn't much left that wouldn't hurt ...




































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Mory Kanté - Yéké yéké

Picked By: @Filippa
Credentials: Silver in France; #1 in Belgium, Finland, Israel, Netherlands, Spain; #2 in Germany and Switzerland; #5 in France; #10 in Austria (first African single to sell more than 1.000.000 units)
Average Score: 8.0682
Highest Score: 10 @Filippa, @Epic Chocolat, @Remorque
Lowest Score: 4.7 @jtm

RIP Mory Kanté. He was suffering from chronic illnesses and couldn’t travel to France due to Covid-19 in 2020 where he had often received treatment. He died on 22 May 2020 in Guinea at the age of 70. Many paid tribute, among others Youssou N’Dour called him “a baobab of African culture” and the president of Guinea said that African culture was in mourning. Mory Kanté himself said in an interview with the British Guardian that he would like to be remembered “as a man of culture, as a citizen of the world who delivers his messages in music, and as a tireless traveller looking to meet and know the people of this world”

Mory Kanté, born to a family of griot musicians in French Guinea, was sent to his Malian aunt to be trained as a griot at the age of seven or fifteen. In Mali, he was not only exposed to all the African traditions but also to many Anglo-American and French pop and rock, as Mali only gained independence from France in 1960 (probably during his stay there). Sounds that shaped him sustainably. No wonder he taught himself playing guitar.

At the age of 21, he was invited to play guitar in a famous Malian orchestra: The Rail Band. This orchestra played then popular, danceable African variations of Cuban rhythms at the train station of Bamako to greet the arriving travellers. When the singer Salif Keita left, Mory replaced him as a singer. This made him a star in West-Africa. Of the time in the band, he said: “We were young and careless about not thinking about money. Only perfection, perseverance, and success counted.”

He left the band in 1984 and got interested in the traditional instrument kora, the instrument that would make him famous in near future. He moved to Paris (at first illegally) and his music was embraced by the French lovers of “world music”. He was soon nicknamed “Electric Griot”.

With Yéké yéké he had his big international breakthrough in 1987. In this song, all his influences came together in perfection and hit the nerve of the time. The highly melodic song caused euphoria on the European dance floors (even in the techno clubs). In a 2009 interview, Mory credited the song’s enduring quality to his enthusiastic spirit. “Whether you play the kora, balafon, or any other instrument, you have to create something that people will not soon forget. As long as your work is good, we don’t forget it.”

Mory Kanté proved that tradition and modernity can be combined quite well. But for this, he got criticized for selling out tradition. To those Mory Kanté recommended to fly to Africa and listen to some tribal music at the meeting place of any African village. He said that the world is changing, constantly evolving, and all of this was inspiring to him. Why should Africans be forbidden to modernity?

Over the years, Mory Kanté regained his roots, moved back to Guinea, and returned also musically to his family’s tradition. He still travelled the world, worked for the United Nations, and gave lectures on music and culture at universities. When asked what his favourite itinerary was, he told the British Guardian “Every return trip home to Africa”.


What did PopJustice think?

@jtm (4.7) I thought I knew this but I don‘t and I don‘t like it too much

@Ezz (8) What a rhythm!

@Epic Chocolat (10) Classic afro-pop world-fusion jam.

@DominoDancing (8.5) Straight up bop.

@WowWowWowWow (9) Contender for Rate Discovery for yours truly!

@Phonetics Girl (9.5) Another one I haven't heard in years! The lost classics status of this rate is well and truly earned!

@daninternational (6.5) Imagine how great the world would be if every continent had their own version of Eurovision. But outside of the context of 'weren't Guinea crazy in the 80s?' it doesn't do a lot for me

@Filippa (10) I could listen to that song over and over again! The energy, the joy, the beauty of this music!

@MilesAngel (7.5) This is a great fusion of traditional African music and modern synth pop. It has a great rhythm which makes me want to dance.

@berserkboi (9.1) A big bop for sure! Great discovery!


Yéké yéké (with Santana)


Railband - Wale Numa Lombaliya


Bankiero


Djou


Oh Oh Oh
 
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Ye Ke Ye Ke is total amazeballs! It was released right at the time when abstract house and acid music was seeping from the underground into the mainstream and it fit right in (probably being the most abstract of them all). I mean, what an unlikely hit-record this is, yet it´s totally universal in its appeal. I never met anyone who doesn´t like this.
A few years later the Hardfloor mix even ushered in an acid-house renaissance and cemented the status of Ye Ke Ye Ke as an all time classic.
I still think that the final minute of the original is the most impressive moment of the track and I so wish there was a Muppets performace. Can you imagine?!
 
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Time to find out who the unlucky voter losing their 11 is!



























































































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Images - Les Démons De Minuit
Picked By: Berserkboi
Credentials:
#1 France (13 Weeks - a record breaker at the time), Best Selling Single of 1986 in France, 1175000 Units SOLD, Certified PLATINUM by SNEP, [1999 Re-release] #12 France, Certified SILVER, 75th Best Selling Single of 1999 in France
Average Score: 8.0704
Highest Score: 11 @berserkboi 10 @Untouchable Ace @Maki @MilesAngel
Lowest Score: 4.5 @If You Go

Here we go! The 11 to fall is mine - it was bound to happen, hey? I will say as disappointed as I am this is not our Winner here, I am extremely proud we brought this little song the PopJustice it deserved by getting it into the Top 20 of the rate. At one point this was looking at a finish of #41 with the early voters soratami and sprocky having an aversion to good taste (ddd), offsetting my 11 with very middling scores!

Les Démons De Minuit is a song I’ve been trying to make happen on PopJustice for over a year - trying to get it into PJOPS/PJ Retro twice (thinking its incredible success in only France was no biggie - to being vetoed both times!) and a Legends Round of PJSC. Each time, I recall someone different pointing out some new found love for it (@Filippa the first time, @Maki the second time and @Phonetics Girl in the Legends Round) - which always gladdened my heart.

The other aspect of Les Démons de minuit that warms my heart is that the lead singer of Images is actually Mauritian like yours truly! Since my home country/island is so small with a pretty insignificant population - we struggle for representation in global entertainment and this was my first taste and awareness that being born on the island was no deterrent to having big dreams!

Mario Ramsamy is an absolute legend - and I don’t believe we have had any other Mauritian achieve this level of international success since (one could make a case for Havana Brown and her heritage, but I don’t know that We Run The Night was the best selling song of any year anywhere in the world). He certainly serves impressive vocals too!

We have not even touched on the fact that the song here is a mega bop of epic 80s synth glory while maintaining a timeless quality (can you believe Images struggled to get a Record Label to sign them when they presented Les Démons De Minuit?? Ridiculous!!) It’s no wonder the song has endured over 30 years and is still a go-to New Year’s Eve banger in French speaking parts of the world to this day. In fact, if you check out the commentary section for the YouTube video - you’ll notice people mentioning getting by during lockdowns reminiscing the great times of a party world pre-Covid! Truly a crowning jewel of 80s French Music for me, and part of my Holy Trinity of 80s Male Vocal French Bops with Nuit De Folie and Partenaire Particulier - let’s now hope the latter goes the distance!

Despite having a couple of further hits in France (all Retro eligible I’d hazard a guess), Images could not maintain this level of extreme commercial success by its second era and is nowadays seen as a nostalgic act, though with Les Démons De Minuit as the song to be remembered by - your legacy could be a lot worse!

What did PopJustice think of this one?

@jtm (4.7) is not fully sold, sadly! - It sounds promising but I don‘t really enjoy it even after repeat listenings. @Ezz (8) is more receptive - Quintessential 80s keyboard and drums combo. @Epic Chocolat (8.8) would have probably experienced the success first hand like I did and just says - A deserved success.

@WowWowWowWow (8) surprises me by not linking a Kate Ryan cover of this one or something! - Catchy enough to keep my interest! @daninternational (8.5) is all for the quirkiness! - Yes for synthy weirdness. @DominoDancing (8.5) makes me aware of the crime of this never reaching Germany - What a great 80s bop. How have I never heard this before?

@pop3blow2 (8) bops softly along - Nothing too groundbreaking, but fine 80s synth pop. @Filippa (9) once said she’d 12 this one if it made it through VETO - heartwarming stuff! - This is so incredibly catchy and so 80s in a very good way.

@MilesAngel (10) makes me crave some Argento despite not being familiar with his work! - This is a rockier synth version of other songs in the rate inspired by medieval music. The chorus sounds like the demons of midnight all singing together which is eerie. The video is like a Dario Argento horror film. @berserkboi (11) had technical difficulties! - For some reason I cannot find the single mix that’s a little boppier on SPOTIFY at all, which is my 11 for being a Monster Bop and Mauritian Justice!!







 
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I don't always love Derek's videos (his pronounciation of French at times is BritneyCringeFace.gif ddd) but I got a little teary-eyed listening to him describe all the different instruments and how amazingly they blend together!

I love how he thinks there's female vocals there - NOPE! - just versatile underrated Mario Ramsamy slaying as ever!
 
'Les Demons de Minuit' was one of my real rate discoveries as I had never heard it before, and it's a shame it didn't go Top 10. I did have it as an 8 originally, but it gradually crept up to a 10, as I couldn't get the tune out of my head. Watching the video is an experience. It's all I want in bonkers 80's Europop.

Dario Argento is most famous for directing the original 'Suspiria' from 1977.
 
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Righeira - Vamos a la playa

Picked By: @Filippa
Credentials: #1 in Italy and Switzerland; #2 in Belgium and the Netherlands; #3 in Germany; #6 in Norway and Spain
Average Score: 8.075
Highest Score: 10 @Filippa, @If You Go, @Untouchable Ace, @Remorque
Lowest Score: 5 @soratami

Two Italians sing the summer hit of the year in Spanish in 1983. And until today "Vamos a la playa" is one of the most important songs of the Italo Disco genre.

Righeira, a duo consisting of Stefano Rota and Stefano Righi, had long dreamed of a great music career, but only when they met the two successful producers Michelangelo and Carmelo La Bionda, who had a hit in the 1970s with "One for you, one for me", the dream came true. At least for one song. Together they produced a song that is hard to beat in its quirkiness. A song that sounds like sun, party, and good mood but is about something completely different! In fact, it is about the explosion of an atomic bomb. We go to the beach - all with a hat. The radioactive wind rips the hair. Let’s go to the beach, finally, the water is clean. No more stinking fish, but fluorescent water …

I really like the song. In the noughties, 70s and 80s parties were very en vogue and I certainly loved them. And so, we danced quite a lot to “Vamos a la playa” without knowing what the song is about. And that’s although the word “la bomba” is surely international …



What did PopJustice think?

@berserkboi (9.2) What a groovy little tune! I think I stan!

@DominoDancing (8) Lovely Italo-Disco. Great ties. Guy sings into his Casio watch for some reason -> extra point.

@Filippa (10) There’s no better Italian disco song than this one. And the irony that it’s sung in Spanish!

@daninternational (9.5) Swiss Toni also had a singing career? In Spanish? This is so wrong that it's right! And I have a major crush on the guy on the left

@WowWowWowWow (7) I mean I enjoy it, but I probably only listen to the first minute of it before skipping to something else. It kind of repeats itself over and over again, no? Vamos a somewhere else please!!

@Phonetics Girl (7) Has that quintessential early 80s sound and I guess it works here.

@MilesAngel (9) The synths throughout this are phenomenal and the chorus is incredibly catchy. When you know the meaning of the song it gets even better.

@jtm (7.7) I can‘t remember ever actively listening to it but I could sing along


Vamos a la playa


No tengo dinero


L'estate sta finendo


Innamoratissimo
 
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Hmmmm, I must have been on one the day I sent my scores because a 7 feels harsh in retrospect. And of course we can't just have it be a nice song about going to the beach; it has to have a message. Finally, clearly 5 years of Spanish lessons never amounted to anything because the whole bomb thing was right there in the lyrics in front of me the whole time.
 
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I'm really not sure why I didn't give the song full 10 points. I remember the whole scoring process was incredibly difficult for me because I chose so many songs that are really very close to my heart. So maybe the reason was because I do love the song but I don't have a special memory connected to it.


























































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Ofra Haza - Im Nin'alu
Picked By:
@Filippa
Credentials: Gold in Germany and Sweden, Silver in France (+500.000 units sold, reportedly three million units); #1 in Germany, Finland, Greece, Norway, Portugal, Spain, Switzerland; #2 in Austria, Sweden; #6 in Denmark, France; #15 in the UK
Average Score: 8.082
Highest Score: 11 @WowWowWowWow, @TéléDex 10 @Epic Chocolat
Lowest Score: 5.5 @Phonetics Girl, @daninternational

Of Yemenite Jewish ancestry, Ofra was born in the poor Tel Aviv neighborhood of Hatikvah. Yemenite Jews immigrated to Yemen about 2.000 years ago. They lived in isolation for hundreds of years, perpetuating a supposedly pure style of Jewish music and liturgy. In the 19th century, they started to move to Palestine and later Israel. The challenges faced by this group include discrimination from Jews of European descent and the hardships associated with moving to a new country and adjusting to a new culture. It was difficult for them to advance socially in Israeli society. And so Ofra's family was poor, but an unconditional trust in God was a vital, stabilizing force in her family. Ofra herself said that she became rich among the poor, because she learned to be happy with her heart. Prayer - every morning and every evening - was part of her life.

This background made her sensitive to injustices and political grievances very early on. She was discovered by her later manager at the age of twelve when she joined a local theatre group. At the age of 19, she was described by music journalists as "the Madonna of the East." In 1983 she represented Israel at the Eurovision Song Contest with Chai and came second. In 1984 she released the album "Yemenite Songs" which was her international break-through. Her most significant international recognition came with the single "Im Nin'alu". But political commitment remained an integral part of her life. She used her great popularity to promote peaceful social integration in this conflict-ridden state. Sadly, she died far too early in 2000 of AIDS-related pneumonia. The press blamed her husband for infecting her with the disease, whereas he revealed that she became infected because of a blood transfusion she received following a miscarriage. However, RIP Ofra.

Im Nin'alu is a traditional, religious song of the Yemenite Jews written by a seventeenth-century poet, Rabbi Shalom Shabbezi. "The basic idea expressed in the first two lines is that heaven is attentive even when men are not. The poem which is filled with images from Jewish mysticism alternates between Hebrew and Arabic" (Zahavi-Ely). Ofra already released it in 1987. Internationally successful became a remixed version, produced by Izhar Ashdot in 1988. She said that the song was crucial in her whole life because she and her family sang it to gain courage. Madonna used the traditional Im Nin'alu in her song Isaac (here's a version that incorporates Ofra's Im Nin'alu).

Let me close with a quote by Ofra:
"I don't know what I would have done without believing in God. His support gives me power and energy to continue to be optimistic, to smile, not to be depressed. Sometimes, if things are not going so well, I don't cry. I say maybe it's meant to be. "


What did PopJustice think?

@WowWowWowWow (11) Giving this my 11 because its atmospheric beauty cannot accurately be described by any of the words I know. "Even if the gates of the rich are closed, the gates of heaven will never be closed." Songs like this are enough to make you believe that to be true.

@TéléDex (11) Excuse me whilst I get these faux-Mikiko moves out of my system, during each chorus, of course. The story behind the origin of this song is so precious. Unsure if the world deserves this remix, but it's absolutely outstanding, okay.

@MilesAngel (7) This has great drums and synths, but I wish there was a different melody at some point.

@jtm (9.3) I miss stuff like this. Also can someone sample or remix this?

@daninternational (5.5) Eurovision royalty. Spent the whole time waiting for the chorus, sorry Ofra

@berserkboi (8.2) Would score some points in a Song Contest for sure!

@DominoDancing (6.5) This went to #1 in Germany??? I'm not one to doubt good old reliable Wikipedia, but I am always flabbergasted when coming across a song that must have such a big hit _during my lifetime_, and yet I've never heard it before. Doesn't blow me away, although some of the production tricks are cute.

@Filippa (9) Angelic vocals with a rhythm divine!

Im Nin'alu (original version)


Chai


Leorech Hayam


Yad B'yad


Kol Ha’neshamah
 
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Accidentally I've read today about the fate of some Yemenite Jewish kids in an Austrian newspaper:

https://www.derstandard.at/story/20...gen-im-skandal-um-verschwundene-kinder-in-den

I've looked for English press releases and I've found this:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/gover...compensate-for-disappeared-yemenite-children/

It's sad to see that even people who suffered so much pain and hardship, endured such horrible discrimination/crimes against them, don't stop this spiral of violence and injustice. When will we ever learn?

And there is one more song that I forgot yesterday:

 
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Peter Schilling - Major Tom (völlig losgelöst)

Picked By: @Filippa
Credentials: Gold in Germany (+250.000 units sold, reportedly six million copies sold); #1 in Austria, Canada, Germany, Switzerland; #2 in The Netherlands, France; #4 in South Africa; #14 in the US
Average Score: 8.086
Highest Score: 11 @pop3blow2 10 @Untouchable Ace, @Filippa, @Remorque
Lowest Score: 5 @Sprockrooster


Bossa Nova, Nouvelle Vague or New Wave or German Neue Deutsche Welle all mean the same. The music style behind was influenced by British Punk and New Wave (hence the name), which in turn was created as a backlash against the kind of rock and bombast rock of groups like Pink Floyd, Emerson, Lake & Palmer or Yes. The Neue Deutsche Welle, which started as an underground movement in the mid and late 1970s, initially orientated itself musically on the British role models, but in the early 1980s became a playground for musicians and bands of various styles in commercial marketing. The unifying element of all the songs of the Neue Deutsche Welle was that the songs were sung in German. At the end of the 1970s, this was a special feature and absolute new territory, because until then the only pop or rock songs with German lyrics had been schlager songs or cover-versions of English or American hits (with a few exceptions). Out of enthusiasm for the success of the German language, one liked to overlook that some songs had zero statement, were kitsch-as-kitsch-can and schlager songs in disguise …

Peter Schilling and Armin Sabol (producer and guitarist) put the song together on their own. The idea for the lyrics came up during a car-trip, Peter Schilling explained in an interview. He later got sued by David Bowie for stealing his idea of Space Oddity, but Peter Schilling could prove that Major Tom isn’t original Bowie but taken from a comic figure of the 30s … But certainly, the songs have similarities, and these similarities are part of the success of Peter Schilling’s Major Tom. Peter Schilling’s Major Tom is a bit different to Bowie’s Major Tom. Schilling’s Major Tom is divisive, you just don’t know if he didn’t cause the catastrophe in the end. But it was mostly the difference between these staccato-like verses and the power of the refrain which made the song so successful.

Peter Schilling couldn’t repeat the success of Major Tom. The pressure made him ill, so he withdraw from public for a while. Later he returned to the public as a live-musician and author of children- and self-help books.


What did PopJustice think?

@pop3blow2 (11) A timeless classic. A melody that gets in your brain & never leaves. I love the tight, staccato, claustrophobic verses mashed up with the airy escape of the chorus. The phased synth that starts 2:40 & ends at 2:50… like a literal audible 10-1 countdown. Genius. The Shiny Toy Guns version is great, too… if not a bit overly glossy compared to the original. Also, imagine the cognitive dissonance I felt listening to the Ava Max album this year & hiring her interpolate this in a song. I almost had to give points for the audacity! Truly a song for the ages.

@jtm (9.4) The final minute or so is still fantastic.

@WowWowWowWow (5.5) Kinda meh for me sorry?

@DominoDancing (7) Same as with Dodo, this exists just for the memorable chorus, with the rest of the song barely existing.

@Phonetics Girl (9.5) So apparently, my mum been on a summer camp in West Germany when she was a teen and they played this song at the discotheque. I totally get why it's so memorable.

@Epic Chocolat (8) I recognize the chorus, the best part.

@Filippa (10) Well, it’s Space Oddity but then again not. A pounding 80s beat with a fantastic chorus.

@daninternational (7) Pros: this song reminds me of Germany's ESC non-entry 'Planet of Blue'. Cons: this is not as fun

@MilesAngel (7.5) Peter does a good job in making the chorus sound 'spacey' and I like that he talks the verse because it really makes the chorus stand out.

@berserkboi (9.6) I am loving these New Order style bops in a Foreign Language! A RETRO concept!!

Major Tom (Völlig Losgelöst) - English version


Terra Titanic


The Different Story


Die Wüste lebt
 
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