The Cure

AshtrayHeart

AshtrayHeart

ModeRed said:
I think we’re all waiting with bated breath. The Cure being one third of the ‘old’ bands I’ve loved since the Dawn of Time (the early 80’s for you young folk) I hope whatever they release is as agreeable as New Order and Depeche Mode’s last offerings that both felt like returns to form.
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It's been a very long time in the making so I'm really hoping for the same, I really enjoyed 4:13 Dream on release, it was my first Cure album as a fully fledged fan, but I rarely go back to that album, except The Hungry Ghost, which, is just such a great song.
What we know from what Robert has said is there are 2 albums, one album is one of the darkest albums he's ever made, which required the vocals to be finished, the other is the pop album, and is finished and ready to go, but something tells me we'll get the pop album and the dark album with be shelved with 4:14 Scream.
I think it's safe to say the fans will mostly be interested in the dark album.
 
Raichu

Raichu

ModeRed said:
I like the Top but it never gels as a coherent album for me, though it does have some blistering tracks, Shake Dog Shake in particular.

Seventeen Seconds is one of my autumn albums (does anyone else have albums that they only really listen to at certain times of the year?) so hasn’t had a play fir a while.

I used to have Pornography back to back with Joy Division’s “Closer” on a c90 - now that really was for my less cheerful moments
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Although I play it all the time, Seventeen Seconds is sooooo autumn. I always get creeped out by that instrumental that just cuts off because something malfunctioned but they didn't have enough money or studio time to fix it.
 
Raichu

Raichu

AshtrayHeart said:
It's been a very long time in the making so I'm really hoping for the same, I really enjoyed 4:13 Dream on release, it was my first Cure album as a fully fledged fan, but I rarely go back to that album, except The Hungry Ghost, which, is just such a great song.
What we know from what Robert has said is there are 2 albums, one album is one of the darkest albums he's ever made, which required the vocals to be finished, the other is the pop album, and is finished and ready to go, but something tells me we'll get the pop album and the dark album with be shelved with 4:14 Scream.
I think it's safe to say the fans will mostly be interested in the dark album.
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The Hungry Ghost is excellent and by far the best song on 4:13 Dream. The album has really grown on me. I hated it the first time I listened to it, but I've come to like that it has some good pop melodies on it.
 
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AshtrayHeart

AshtrayHeart

Raichu said:
The Hungry Ghost is excellent and by far the best song on 4:13 Dream. The album has really grown on me. I hated it the first time I listened to it, but I've come to like that it has some good pop melodies in it.
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Actually agree it does have some other great songs on it, like Underneath the Stars, Sleep When I'm Dead, The Perfect Boy. I might have to dig my vinyl out this weekend and give it a spin, it's been a while.
I also really enjoy Self Titled too, it could just do with a trim down, Before Three is euphoric and nostalgic, there's some great album worthy b-sides from that album era too like This Morning.
 
Raichu

Raichu

AshtrayHeart said:
Actually agree it does have some other great songs on it, like Underneath the Stars, Sleep When I'm Dead, The Perfect Boy. I might have to dig my vinyl out this weekend and give it a spin, it's been a while.
I also really enjoy Self Titled too, it could just do with a trim down, Before Three is euphoric and nostalgic, there's some great album worthy b-sides from that album era too like This Morning.
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I've always liked Self-Titled. I feel like it doesn't try to be ambitious and succeeds at feeling spontaneous and strangely warm. And there's plenty of good melodies. Which is the opposite of Bloodflowers for me, which feels forced, like they were trying so hard to make a sequel to Disintegration, and is sorely lacking melody.

If I was to rank their albums, it would probably be like this:

1. Disintegration
2. Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me
3. The Head On The Door
4. Faith
5. Wish
6. The Top
7. Pornography
8. Wild Mood Swings
9. The Cure
10. 4:13 Dream
11. Seventeen Seconds
12. Three Imaginary Boys
13. Bloodflowers

I actually think Seventeen Seconds and Three Imagery Boys are better "for their time" than self-titled and 4:13 Dream, but they are pretty clearly a product of a band still finding their sound and just compared against each other without the historical context, the self-titled and 4:13 Dream sound better. Plus, Three Imaginary Boys gets marked down for "Object" and that hideous Jimi Hendrix cover. Also, not a fan of that song where Robert Smith is basically reading advertisements.
 
AshtrayHeart

AshtrayHeart

Raichu said:
I've always liked Self-Titled. I feel like it doesn't try to be ambitious and succeeds at feeling spontaneous and strangely warm. And there's plenty of good melodies. Which is the opposite of Bloodflowers for me, which feels forced, like they were trying so hard to make a sequel to Disintegration, and is sorely lacking melody.

If I was to rank their albums, it would probably be like this:

1. Disintegration
2. Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me
3. The Head On The Door
4. Faith
5. Wish
6. The Top
7. Pornography
8. Wild Mood Swings
9. The Cure
10. 4:13 Dream
11. Seventeen Seconds
12. Three Imaginary Boys
13. Bloodflowers

I actually think Seventeen Seconds and Three Imagery Boys are better "for their time" than self-titled and 4:13 Dream, but they are pretty clearly a product of a band still finding their sound and just compared against each other without the historical context, the self-titled and 4:13 Dream sound better. Plus, Three Imaginary Boys gets marked down for "Object" and that hideous Jimi Hendrix cover. Also, not a fan of that song where Robert Smith is basically reading advertisements.
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Yes and I also like how "modern" they sounded on the 2004 album, as a teenager back then, this helped a lot in bringing them to my attention, I loved The End of the World at the time.

This is the tracklist I use for this album:

01. Lost
02. Alt.End
03. Before Three
04. Truth Goodness & Beauty
05. The End of the World
06. Anniversary
07. Us or Them
08. Fake
09. I Don't Know What's Going On
10. This Morning
11. Going Nowhere

I'll try and do my ranking over the weekend, but when it comes to the debut album, I only ever use the Boys Don't Cry album, it does a great job of getting rid of the bad songs from the debut and adding the hits.
 
Raichu

Raichu

AshtrayHeart said:
Yes and I also like how "modern" they sounded on the 2004 album, as a teenager back then, this helped a lot in bringing them to my attention, I loved The End of the World at the time.

This is the tracklist I use for this album:

01. Lost
02. Alt.End
03. Before Three
04. Truth Goodness & Beauty
05. The End of the World
06. Anniversary
07. Us or Them
08. Fake
09. I Don't Know What's Going On
10. This Morning
11. Going Nowhere

I'll try and do my ranking over the weekend, but when it comes to the debut album, I only ever use the Boys Don't Cry album, it does a great job of getting rid of the bad songs from the debut and adding the hits.
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Hmmm. It never even occured to me to use the Boys Don't Cry album. Flop fan haha.
 
Humanracin

Humanracin

I'm hoping for the "dark" album in October.
And the "pop" album for next summer's festivals, so sometime Mar-June 2023?
Then there's the solo album but that's the one I think might end up shelved.
 
ModeRed

ModeRed

Let’s have a crack at this whilst my brekkie is cooking…

1. Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me
2. Disintegration
3. Wish
4. The Head On The Door
5. Pornography
6. Seventeen Seconds
7. Faith
8. 4:13 Dream
9. The Cure
10. Bloodflowers
11. Wild Mood Swings
12 .The Top
13. Three Imaginary Boys

those last three or four hardly ever get played anymore and really could be in any order.

tbh if I want my fix of early cure I tend to play the standing on a beach compilation as it’s so good
 
AshtrayHeart

AshtrayHeart

Okay okay okay, let’s give this a bash:

Pornography
Disintegration
Wish
Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me
The Head On the Door
Faith
Join the Dots
The Cure
Bloodflowers
Seventeen Seconds
Wild Mood Swings
4:13 Dream
The Top
Boys Don’t Cry
 
ModeRed

ModeRed

AshtrayHeart said:
Okay okay okay, let’s give this a bash:

Pornography
Disintegration
Wish
Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me
The Head On the Door
Faith
Join the Dots
The Cure
Bloodflowers
Seventeen Seconds
Wild Mood Swings
4:13 Dream
The Top
Boys Don’t Cry
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Join the Dots is an essential grab bag of all those Cure non album items. Some great songs within it.

I will add that (as mentioned earlier) the seasons and weather really do influence my Cure album choices - and if we’d been having this discussing in the melancholic autumn and winter months then Pornography and 17 seconds would be higher. But right now it’s a sunny Saturday morning and all this chat has led me to having ‘Wish’ accompany my breakfast.

The fact that they have such a varied back catalogue that can appeal to different emotions is one of the reasons I love them so much.
 
Humanracin

Humanracin

Robert gave yet another update on the new album yesterday.
Apparently it will be out in time for the tour in October.
It will be the “relentless” dark album.
The second more pop album (which he said was finished a few months ago) is still being worked on as he didn’t like some of the songs and is still writing and recording new songs for it. Will likely come out next year.

https://www.nme.com/news/music/the-...orld-interview-update-relentless-tour-3229589

Edit: oh and he also mentions the Wish remaster which sounds like it’s ready to go.
 
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ModeRed

ModeRed

Humanracin said:
Robert gave yet another update on the new album yesterday.
Apparently it will be out in time for the tour in October.
It will be the “relentless” dark album.
The second more pop album (which he said was finished a few months ago) is still being worked on as he didn’t like some of the songs and is still writing and recording new songs for it. Will likely come out next year.

https://www.nme.com/news/music/the-...orld-interview-update-relentless-tour-3229589

Edit: oh and he also mentions the Wish remaster which sounds like it’s ready to go.
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He’s just a constant tease…
 
Raichu

Raichu

Humanracin said:
Robert gave yet another update on the new album yesterday.
Apparently it will be out in time for the tour in October.
It will be the “relentless” dark album.
The second more pop album (which he said was finished a few months ago) is still being worked on as he didn’t like some of the songs and is still writing and recording new songs for it. Will likely come out next year.

https://www.nme.com/news/music/the-...orld-interview-update-relentless-tour-3229589

Edit: oh and he also mentions the Wish remaster which sounds like it’s ready to go.
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Songs Of A Lost World is an interesting title!
 
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