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The Disney Classics Rate (The End.)

Discussion in 'Charts, rates etc' started by Animalia, Apr 10, 2017.

  1. I noticed a lot of early-2000's ones in your list - that's the time when I was a young child, and, well... I didn't see any of those over and over again. Because a lot of the time, I barely had any idea that they existed.

    Seriously. Was Disney's advertising department totally asleep at the wheel for half a decade? I literally only remember seeing ads for Lilo and Stitch, and a scattered few for Atlantis and Brother Bear. (It took me until 2006 to realize the existence of Treasure Planet!) No wonder that was an era of bombs...
     
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  2. Yeah, basically any movie here stands a chance to get out of the bottom, as long as one single voter here has some kind of deep, nostalgic attachment to it due to their childhood.

    Also, I'm giving @Animalia that next-page bump that he loves, now get to cutting.
    Nvm.
     
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  3. Mvnl

    Mvnl Staff Member

    I have a feeling the final list would look very very different if top 10s or even top 20s had been allowed.
    Not criticism really, I have no clue what the formula to most accurate results is at all! I just think lower tier favourites might suffer.
     
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  4. Poor Unfortunate Films

    = 35th cont.

    0 Points | 0 Voters




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    Dinosaur (2000)

    Fun fact: In the twenty-four years of my life, I have only ever walked out of three films in the cinema: Casino Royale, because there was a fire alarm; James & The Giant Peach, because my little sister threw up; and Dinosaur, because it was so astoundingly fucking awful that my mum decided she loved us too much to make us sit through it. This is a film so startlingly atrocious that it's Disney Classic status was retroactively revoked in the UK and awarded to The Wild in its place (the replacement is fact, my reasoning on why may be biased speculation). Oh and also, THAT POSTER IS HIDEOUS.



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    Treasure Planet (2002)

    Oh, what could have been. There was so much potential in Treasure Planet - I mean, just look at that spectacular poster. You tell me "there's a new Disney film about space pirates with Final Fantasy-style rocket-powered airships" and I am THERE. Except it's just... boring. All the right ingredients are there, Disney just forgot the recipe, and it's a damn shame.



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    Brother Bear (2003)

    Okay, we're gonna see some pretty fucking ugly posters over the course of this countdown, but none even come close to whatever the hell that is. Again; fantastic concept on paper, horribly sloppy execution. The heart and soul of a true Disney classic is there, it's just not fun to watch. It's legitimately a bit of a chore to get through.



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    Home On The Range (2004)

    This Weetabix box masquerading as a movie poster though. Home On The Range is the Disney film that time forgot. And the general public. And hardcore fans. And, seemingly, quality assurance.



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    Chicken Little (2005)

    "If you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all."



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    Meet The Robinsons (2007)

    I always thought this was a Dreamworks animation, which is pretty much the worst of all fates.



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    Bolt (2008)

    Casting a C-list popstar as a lead character wasn't even enough to earn it a single point on a pop music forum. Ouch.



    So, equal disdain for the more recent awkward stage of Disney. Hurray for equality!

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  5. Mvnl

    Mvnl Staff Member

    Over here (although I know this wasn't the case in many countries) I also believe in the early '00s they stopped releasing new Disneys around christmas. It was such a thing to look forward to each year!
     
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  6. Mvnl

    Mvnl Staff Member

    I forgot that even existed. How was that even a Disney movie?

    Also, what kind of Lidl Madagascar mess must it have been?

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  7. Mvnl

    Mvnl Staff Member

    Actually, apart from Home On The Range, Brother Bear and Bolt, all those 'Disney classics' forgot to look like Disney;.
     
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  8. Mvnl

    Mvnl Staff Member

    Wait.. is Atlantis still in??
     
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  9. Time for my totally unqualified opinions!

    Dinosaur: Yeah, it's awful. Totally awful all around. And this was the one they apparently chose to hype to death...

    Treasure Planet: Well, the basics of the story work, because Treasure Island is a classic for a reason, and I quite like what they did with Long John Silver. Too bad that the setting makes no sense, it's bloated and tries to be all things to everyone where it really shouldn't, the integration of traditional and CGI animation is quite shockingly bad at times, and Jim's hair is really silly. And that FUCKING ROBOT! (Ben Gunn, you poor man...)

    Brother Bear: It works OK up until Kenai gets turned into a bear, then it goes to Snoozeville. The ideal of a bland family movie that parents only grudgingly tolerate... with two Canadian comedy icons slumming it as dumb mooses, to boot.

    Home on the Range: To be honest, I think this one gets derision largely because it doesn't "deserve" to be the last traditionally animated Disney film (until 2009, anyway). But on its own merits, eh, 's alright for a kiddie flick, and I kinda like how aggressively flat it all looks.

    Chicken Little: No comment.

    Meet the Robinsons: ...It's better than Chicken Little? I like the overall design mentality, at least, though it can't compensate for its weak narrative throughlines, horribly manic kiddiness and bouts of sickly sweetness.

    Bolt: Now we're getting somewhere! Pleasant but uneven - the last working out of the kinks before the return to proper greatness with The Princess and the Frog. Likeable enough, fun, nice, but overall kinda forgettable.
     
  10. I will praise Chicken Little for being an unexpected but surprisingly useful summon in Kingdom Hearts II but otherwise no losses here other the waste of Dame Judi Dench in Home on the Range.
     
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  11. Mvnl

    Mvnl Staff Member

    I swear, especially with things like Dinosaur and The Wild they just wanted to show off how realistic things could look too quickly, forgetting the Disney look in the process.

    I remember being blown away with Toy Story but also thinking 'how is this kind of animation ever going to work for actual animals, leave alone humans??'.
    Glad that Pixar proved me wrong throughout the years, and with Tangled also Disney.
     
  12. MollieSwift21

    MollieSwift21 Staff Member

    Treasure Planet did have a lot potential. Not much to say about the rest. The dinosaur movie did lead to a fun ride at Disney world at least.
     
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  13. Ah, the heyday of showing as little of the parents/Andy as possible because they hadn't quite figured out how to do human characters yet.

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  14. Mvnl

    Mvnl Staff Member

    Yeah I remember how wooden the family looked and it totally took you out of the illusion with the toys looking so real.
    Of course hyper-realistic humans would take away the animation magic as well, and I'm glad they never went for that thusfar. But with the Toy Stories it always was odd because of how hyperrealistic the toys looked.

    I remember Toy Story happening in the same year as A Goofy Movie.. and well.. screw 3d.
     
  15. See also: people's outrage with how cartoonish the characters were in The Good Dinosaur, especially with those breathtaking photo-realistic landscapes. Personally, I think it worked, and it wasn't done because of technological limitations, but as a creative decision (at least as far as I'm aware), but the movie just wasn't up there with Pixar's upper echelon, sadly.
     
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  16. Mvnl

    Mvnl Staff Member

    I have never seen either Dinosaur movie in full but just going by trailers I'll take the Good Dinosaur over the Disney one any day.
     
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  17. Home on the Range is a good film. Very fun, love the really angular art style. Give it a chance, people!
     
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  18. Poor Unfortunate Films

    = 35th cont.

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    The Sword in the Stone (1963)

    I'm not surprised to see this pass by without a nod, but it's sort of a shame. I'm not a fan of the strange sketch show structure and it's not exactly the most thrilling of tales to recreate in the first place, but all the voice acting is superb and Madam Mim is iconic. Shout out to the good sis Merlin for letting Sora use his crockery for magical target practice, too.



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    Robin Hood (1973)

    Ah, the film that birthed a generation of furries. This one might be a bit of a surprise, it's one of the more iconic films to make our shit list, but honestly I've always struggled with it. I'll admit it looks gorgeous, but the setting, the characters, the music... meh. I always used to get it mixed up with the infinitely superior Bedknobs & Broomsticks too, which doesn't do it any favours.



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    The Black Cauldron (1985)

    Aw, I've known this was coming for a long time, but it still hurts. I won't lie to your lovely faces and say it's an objectively great film, because it's a bit all over the place and most of the characters are half-baked and a tad annoying, but I can't help but respect it for the same reason I do Hunchback. It's not afraid to be scary, gory and, at one point in particular, UTTERLY FUCKING HEARTBREAKING WHY GURGI WHY *ahem*. It's a curious little anomaly in Disney's canon, and having the late, great John Hurt voicing the bad guy who's essentially The Lich from Adventure Time is just fantastic. It's worth a watch, I promise.



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    The Great Mouse Detective (1986)

    I have something of an irrational hatred for anything Sherlock Holmes related so I'm probably not the best person to ask, but honestly Fidget the bat is the only thing I remember about this film.



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    Oliver & Company (1988)

    Ah shit. I've made it no secret that I low-key love this. Despite overwhelming ambivalence to almost anything Oliver Twist related, this film has always managed to capture my heart somehow. Other than just how painfully adorable Oliver is, the music is the best part of it to be honest; the plot is obviously a bit tired, there's a distinct lack of (funny) jokes, and they do fry a couple dogs on live subway lines, soooo... yeah. Choices. Georgette remains an icon and a legend, though. Bye.



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    The Rescuers Down Under (1990)

    The only thing this film has to its name as it straddles the awkward Renaissance gap between The Little Mermaid and Beauty & the Beast is its status as the only sequel to be granted official Animated Classic status, and it's about to have that cruelly snatched away by Wreck-It Ralph 2. Poor thing. To be fair, I remember watching this as a kid and being pleasantly surprised by how good it was. It deserves that accolade. That is one classy poster, too. Bravo.


    Only three more zero-pointers left, and I've left what I think are the most surprising 'til last...

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  19. I fucking hate this movie.
     
  20. The Good Dinosaur is worth the while, if only for the spectacular visuals.
     
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