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The Koda Kumi Rate: Part III, COMPLETE. See you in Q1 2020

Discussion in 'Charts, rates etc' started by evilsin, Aug 19, 2019.


Which short track / interlude deserved a full version?

  1. Prologue to Dejavu

    0 vote(s)
  2. Interlude to Dejavu

    0 vote(s)
  3. Introduction ~JAPONESQUE~

    3 vote(s)
  4. Interlude ~JAPONESQUE~

    0 vote(s)
  5. Introduction ~Bon Voyage~

    1 vote(s)
  6. Let's show tonight

    2 vote(s)
  7. Interlude ~Bon Voyage~

    3 vote(s)
  1. Got to Be Real isn't the last-standing Dejavu extra I'd pick, oh well
    I think this is shaping to be a very solid top 40
    I wonder what the first 11 to fall will be? Not me, for sure!
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  2. Black Candy is rather good. It has grown on me.
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  3. Get a little dirty
    Get a little dirty with me

    Whatchu Waitin' On?

    Average: 7,71
    Highest scorers: 9,5x1 (@me!), 9x4 (@otenkiame, @Osiris, @Cutlery, @Music Is Life)
    Lowest scorers: 3x1 (@abael), 6x2 (@Coming Century, @lalaclairi_)
    My score: lookie above

    5 voters: #40, 7,30 avg.
    10 voters: #29, 7,70 avg.
    15 voters: #40, 7,57 avg.
    18 voters: #41, 7,71 avg.

    Ah, yes, before we move on to our first 11, we need to say goodbye to another extra track, which is a final one of the "JAPONESQUE" era. Written by Kumi and the aforementioned Matthew Tishler and produced by the latter and Daniel J Plante (Hirai Ken's and Amuro Namie's "GROTESQUE" !!!), the track was released during Kumi's pregnancy to quench the fans' thirst for new music. It was included on a remix album "Beach Mix" as the first track and received a music video conveniently depicting only Kumi's head and hands. The version that is on the album has one EDM break after the first chorus that is, for some reason, different to the one used in the musc video, which has the same 3 instrumental parts after the choruses. Weird. Anyhow, this is a total blast. It is borderline trashy EDM ditty, but that's why I love it. The chorus' melody is catchy AF and it always lingers with me after I listen to this. Lyrical content is a bit of a mess linguistically, but it's about summer and partying:

    Falling love

    Dance me round the floor
    Don't say you've had enough
    I say falling love
    I'm gonna melt, sugar sugar sugar
    Boy, whatcha waitin' on

    (c) @otenkiame

    So whatchu all been waiting on lately?

    @abael (3) was the only one, so we'll let it pass our ears, "Just plain irritating. There is nothing salvageable from this mess."

    @Weslicious (8) was critical of the approach they chose for the music video, "With 0 points for that 'hide the pregnancy' cheap CGI mess of a video!" At least it was something.

    Looks like this was a bit of a guilty pleasure for @Yeziirl (8), "kinda cringe but fun, wow I haven't heard dubstep in a long time"

    Apparently @Music Is Life (9) was listening to this when he was unable to move, "WAIT at this electro pop banger! I really wanna dance and I can’t! *Tears emoji*" Poor thing, you.

    No matter what, @Cutlery (9) managed to have some damn good fun with this, "Is it bad that I adore how robo Kuu and cutie Kuu butcher the vocals? How utterly dated this thing is, poor drop included? It's bad, but I'm bopping along anyway. Seeing the hideous rainbow Lisa Frank'd cover art for Beach Mix, this slots in nicely as an opener for it"

    And again, @otenkiame (9) is me, "Some popping, bouncing, fun is what this is. So much electronics going on, and the beat is orgasmic. I used to have some kinda problem with it, but I honestly can't remember what it was. I don't even care if there's all that random English thrown in. I am such a fan of this song."

    Believe me when I'm telling you that the performance with fluorescent paint during fanclub exclusive live "Let's Party Vol.2" was the shit. Starts at around 5:40.
  4. This did pretty decently for a song with no 10's
    Speaking of Lisa Frank, it's a ki this was the last thing the corporate acc tweeted
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  5. Oh no I love Whatchu Waitin' On?!

    The latest eliminations are starting to hurt...
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  6. So who is the unlucky one who loses his 11 first?

    Well, he did lose his 11 in BANKS rate earlier today...

    Maybe it won't be as painful.

    Mess at me realizing that I didn't use kanji for the text of the artwork only now.
    Suki de, Suki de, Suki de.

    Average: 7,71
    Highest scorers: 11x1 (@RUNAWAY), 10x3 (@Coming Century, @Cutlery, @Music Is Life), 9x3 (@vague, @Weslicious and @me!)
    Lowest scorers: 5x3 (@abael, @Ana Raquel, @lalaclairi_), 6x3 (@Yeziirl, @mi|kshake, @Eskiath)
    My score: lookie above

    5 voters: #27, 7,80 avg.
    10 voters: #45, 7,10 avg.
    15 voters: #44, 7,52 avg.
    18 voters: #41, 7,71 avg.

    I'm so sorry, @RUNAWAY. Maybe you knew, maybe you didn't, maybe it's karma, dddd. Written by Kumi and produced by Sugiyama Katsuhiko (Nakashima Mika's "Ichiban Kirei na Watashi wo", "Dear" and "Ashita Sekai ga Owaru Nara"), the song was the first a-side of Kuu's 48th single, with the second being "Anata Dake ga". The single also had a revampred version of "walk" for Kumi's 10th anniversary. All three songs received a music video that have a connected story. Remember misono? Guess it wasn't her final mentioning in the rate after all, as she starred in two of the three music videos. The song in question is a pretty epic sounding ballad. I appreciate how it has it all: the guitar, the bass, the beat, the strings. They certainly went all out with the instruments. Kumi's performance here is one of her best, as the song gets progressively bigger and more emotional, so does Kumi. Say what you want, but you do start to believe that she actually truly loves this guys she's singing about. I would say that the verses and the chorus are a little disjointed, but I guess they had to be so that the chorus shined even brighter. Lyrically it's all about hopeless Kumi, her hopeless guy and their hopeless love:

    You were the first person

    who recognized me
    You were the first person
    who wiped away my overflowing tears

    Right after you say goodbye
    I want you to look back - please grant
    this small wish

    (c) @otenkiame

    It pains me, that someone's 11 got only four comments.

    @abael (5) doesn't appreciate a couple of ballads following each other on the albums apparently, "Pulling a double-ballad? Deja Vu indeed." When these are so good though, it's no bother at all.

    @otenkiame (7) loves the emotion on display and like me prefers the second a-side of the single, "I feel this is the inferior a-side to "Anata Dake ga". Not to say it's bad, though. It's definitely got Kuu's signature ballad style with all the dramatics and the like, but doesn't fall into forgettable territory. It really shines towards the end when she adds all that emotion." I think it really grew on me with time. Maybe it will for you as well. But then again, I'm a hopeless hehe Kumi stan.

    Leave it to @Cutlery (10) to mince it, eat it all up and ask for more, "Another phenomenal ballad. I'm a huge fan of the duality when the previous track was piano and light, while this is acoustic and string-heavy. Kuu is able to emote so well, particularly in the chorus! Giving us strength, hopeless romantic, and bittersweet memories all at once" Surprisingly I never thought of the two in juxtoposition, which is... really weird on my part, considering how on the nose this is.

    @RUNAWAY (11), naturally, had some strong words about this one, "this is it. this is honestly my…...favorite Kumi song. Ever? I don’t know. Maybe tied with you or D.D.D. Her voice is just so stunning in this song, and the absolute emotion it makes me feel….QUEEN. These lyrics are some of her best ever, and this song is just….the best. The final chorus never fails to make me tear up." That's a lovely trio of songs to have as your ultimate favorites of Kuu's and I was immensely happy that you gave your 11 to a proper ballad. So sorry it's the first to go, balladophobia be damned.

    The song is very well loved by the fans, so Kumi keeps on performing it live. Let's say thank you to avex for uploading this one from "Dejavu Tour" in full and officially.

    We had Top50 summery not so long ago, do y'all need a Top40 one?
  7. Anata dake ga is better.
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    RUNAWAY Staff Member

    ....I need a break from this place.
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  9. @RUNAWAY flawless 11 choice, I'm so sorry that tracks like Loaded, U Know and Winner Girls are still here while Suki de is out, where is the voters' taste???
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  10. I'm only referring to Britney and her song Boys dddd.

    And complaining about ballads being next to each other in the song list...listen to playlist on shuffle so you don't have to worry about it.
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  11. It is.
    Please come back to give me likes.
    Yes, only "Winner Girls" is a perfect Kumi song and I won't hear anything else!
    Dddd, I thought "Brit's Boys" was a name of a band or something.
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  12. Dddd I should have put Boys in quotes.
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    Average: 7,72
    Highest scorers: 10x1 (@me!), 9,5x2 (@vague, @Music Is Life)
    Lowest scorers: 5x2 (@Yeziirl, @abael), 6x1 (@Coming Century)
    My score: lookie above

    5 voters: #37, 7,50 avg.
    10 voters: #37 7,40 avg.
    15 voters: #37, 7,67 avg.
    18 voters: #40, 7,72 avg.

    Love how this stayed at #37 for the most part of the voting. Written by UA and composed by a popular producer Asamoto Hirofumi (lots of good 90s R'n'B songs), the track was originally released by UA in 1996. The original song was a bit of a hit and had a little more of R'n'B flavor to it, which played amazingly with UA's whispery vocals, while Kumi's version sounds more cabaret-like. It was included on Kuu's second cover album "Color The Cover" as track #4 and remains one of my most liked covers of hers, hence its inclusion in the rate. The relentless flow of memorable melodies and Kuu's lovely vocals wash all over me and everything is right in the world. I also definitely appreciate how she changes up the delivery here and there and the sped-up last chorus, as those only add to the replayability of the song. I would say, that something went wrong during the mastering though, as Kumi's voice does sound a little drowned out, but apart from that, and the fact that I'm the only one, who gave this a full score, this is an amazing take on a classic. The lyrics are about passionate love, what else?

    I'm sure the tears

    will flow soundlessly,
    but they'll openly soak my cheeks
    and start to dissolve my heart

    I wanted you to hold me
    until it seemed like I'd break
    But I'm laughed at by the memories
    as I hide my footprints and scars

    Let's embrace the passion
    that we can't get back anymore
    and gather the feelings that won't come to fruition
    and give a farewell kiss

    That's right, I want to embrace you
    more than anyone else,
    but I'm carried off by pain
    and this joke is awfully empty
    (c) @otenkiame

    Y'all wish you had a passion like that in your lives.

    @abael (5) proclaims, "Kind of average." Yeah, just like you.

    @Cutlery (7,5) cuts my eyes open, "This is a jazz pop sound similar to what Lovely wanted to be, but done quite better" Wait, she did go for this jazzy sound for couple of songs on the album, why didn't I notices before?

    Meanwhile @otenkiame (9) melts into the passion and no one's helping him, "God, yes! This jazzy tune makes me want Kuu to release an album full of nothing but similar songs to this! Completely lives up to its title "passion" - Kuu serves on the vocal front as always."

    This might have made @Music Is Life (9,5) feel a little horney, "Another retro-esque bop, I really enjoy this one. Love the horns."

    Now lets watch Kumi performing this live during "JAPONESQUE Tour" looking like the Koddess she is. Starts at around 4:24, but why would you skip that amazing remix of D.D.D. before it?

    And here's 2 minutes of the original.

    And a live rendition by Amuro Namie and SUPER MONKEY'S just for the kiis.
    Last edited: Nov 3, 2019
  14. Sorry that there is only one elimination today. We're having yet another tie tomorrow and guess what? No ballads and no cute songs in it.
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  15. Dddddd
    I'm 19. I'm always horney.
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  16. No Way safe? Another day another slay
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  17. Oh, I remember that lovely time. Screw you for being so young though, dddd.

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  18. Boom, boom, boom, boom
    Boom, boom, boom, boom
    Boom, boom, boom, boom


    Average: 7,75
    Highest scorers: 9,5x1 (@Music Is Life), 9x3 (@Yeziirl, @soratami, @Cutlery)
    Lowest scorers: 5x1 (@Coming Century), 6x2 (@Eskiath, @otenkiame)
    My score: 8

    5 voters: #54, 6,80 avg.
    10 voters: #39, 7,35 avg.
    15 voters: #38, 7,63 avg.
    18 voters: #38, 7,75 avg.

    We're back to "Bon Voyage" after giving it a bit of a breather. Written by Kumi and Kalis from OVDS and produced by Tommy Henriksen ("BUT", "FREAKY") and Chioma Eze (Allison Iraheta's "Still Breathing"), the track is a newer album track from "Bon Voyage" and features the aforementioned Taiwanese EDM band OVDS. Why do I get a feeling that this is exactly the type of slightly trashy music Kumi absolutely adores? I mean it's really not bad, especially considering that Tommy was at the helm once again. The questionable verses aside, the chorus is pretty ecstatic and that middle 8 brings me right to the dancefloor. Kalis, who I assume is delivering the rapping parts, is totally fine and doesn't take away anything from the song. It also sounds like it's going to pop the fuck off in the live environment. What can I say, Kumi is a musical chameleon after all. The lyrical content of this is about cranking tha bass, of course:

    I feel that boom, boom

    Feels like something's gonna happen in this room, room
    Gonna burst open, boom, boom
    With your index finger click zoom, zoom, zoom

    (c) @otenkiame

    Do y'all like to crank tha bass?

    @Eskiath (6) has an opposite opinion to mine, "Blah really boring chorus for what should be a hype song." To each his own, right?

    If it's not the cute sounding vocals, than it's cat's screeching that is not to @otenkiame's (6) liking, "One of those songs that lowkey irritate me but I still bop to. What irritates me is the way Kuu sings. She sounds like a screeching cat at times, being a little too extra, in my opinion. I do really like the rockish arrangement it has, and OVDS are actually pretty good too. That middle eight is great, though." At least we agree about our favorite part.

    Apparently @abael (7) wished for more Japanese in this one, "The English lyrics are a rough listen, but this is listenable to at some base level"

    And here I thought it was near impossible to confuse @Weslicious (8), "I’m still not too sure what this is, but I kind of bop." It's a Kumi song, hun.

    @Yeziirl (9) is all over the place with his commentary, "wow it’s a rock song that I like, it’s fun, stupid without being annoying unlike LOL or Dreaming Now, has some random ass Engrish which sounds fitting. Imagine suggesting your friends listen to this song, they would think you are crazy, but you actually listen to this when no one is around." Maybe, although I have stopped caring about other people's thoughts years ago.

    Welp, if it's not a cat, it's a donkey for @Cutlery (9), "Balls-to-the-wall with Kumi playing with her voice in such an over-the-top way she almost sounds like a donkey at times, a rockout chorus, a sample that sounds like distilled Boo sounds and BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM" Asinine chanteuse.

    In the end the only true statement was provided by @Music Is Life (9,5), "WHOA KAY Koda you’re just coming for everyone and everything aren’t you?" Yes, she is.

    Kuu performed the song in full during "Bon Voyage Tour", but there is no video available online, so here it is as part of a medley during 15th anniversary live "The Artist":

    And here is the recording of the performance from "Bon Voyage Tour".
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    This is my fav song on the album along with a certain single, I wish it'd done better, but we do LOVE a polarizing bop!
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  20. Yeah, Crank tha bass is definitely the highlight of Bon Voyage!

    Also finally I’m not in the lowest voters category!
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