The Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU)

Black Widow is one of Marvel’s first missteps. I don’t know it just felt so unnecessary? Honestly every movie after that has been “just ok” apart for Shang Chi and No Way Home for me. Those two movies felt special to me.

A lot of the media is noticing the trouble that Phase 4 is having and one outlet made a very good point. In the earlier phases Feige and co. had great ideas that only had to be divided between 3-4 projects a year. Now these ideas are being shared between 7-10 projects a year, between movies and TV shows. On top of that Feige can’t realistically be hands on with all these projects anymore. It shows.

An example is the Dr Strange 2 promotion campaign. As a producer I’d never have had so much revealed in the ad campaign. Granted it might not have been under his control but if he was on the project at 100%, that never would have happened.

Who knows in the next year or so we might be eating our words with how this was all a setup for something amazing but for right now, the cracks are showing.
 
Black Widow is top tier marvel, but should have come much sooner than it did. The fact it came after Endgame, slightly ruined all suspense.

Wandavision, Hawkeye and (for the most parts) Shang Chi have all delivered on the Phase 4 front.

Hoping Ms Marvel, Thor and Black Panther can steer the ship slightly and course correct some of the messiness that has come from all this multiverse madness.
 
I think if they had to shoehorn in a common goal into every single movie/TV show it would just feel rushed. I'm fine with taking a breather from the big crossover events anyway.
 
Phase 4 so far for me is quite enjoyable. I like how some of the projects aren't connected to whatever the Big End is, after Endgame it's refreshing to see how some of the characters are coping and figuring out where they fit in within the world, and to see newer characters doing the same.
A massive world has been created and I like seeing more aspects of it, I'm not too fussed about some of the projects having nothing to do with the multiverse/Kang, which I assume is where the Big stories are leading to.
 
I do think the Disney+ shows having a relatively mixed reception and less social media traction than one would expect might speed up audience fatigue if that is something on the horizon.

Its a lot harder of a fall when there's entire TV shows of build up to something thats a let down too (speaking as someone who disliked Doctor Strange 2)
 
I do think the Disney+ shows having a relatively mixed reception and less social media traction than one would expect might speed up audience fatigue if that is something on the horizon.

Its a lot harder of a fall when there's entire TV shows of build up to something thats a let down too (speaking as someone who disliked Doctor Strange 2)
I agree, I would very much like the production to be slowed down a touch, especially with some of the shows that have been announced. No one is here for Echo or Armor Wars.

They need to follow the exceptional way Black Panther and Spider-Man were introduced, in someone else’s film, before being given their own project.
 
I agree, I would very much like the production to be slowed down a touch, especially with some of the shows that have been announced. No one is here for Echo or Armor Wars.

They need to follow the exceptional way Black Panther and Spider-Man were introduced, in someone else’s film, before being given their own project.

… I’m confused, Echo was introduced in Hawkeye And Armor Wars is apparently War Machine as a lead.

Wouldn’t this criticism be more apt for Moon Knight, Ms. Marvel and She-Hulk?
 
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I, haven't managed to finish a Marvel Series all the way through since Wanda-Vision


I do need to try Hawkeye though, but Renner is so off-putting
 
… I’m confused, Echo was introduced in Hawkeye And Armor Wars is apparently War Machine as a lead.

Wouldn’t this criticism be more apt for Moon Knight, Ms. Marvel and She-Hulk?
Yes, I guess my point wasn’t particularly well-made. It was a point of two halves- shows that no one cares about (like Echo) and introducing future main characters in other projects before their own (like She Hulk and Moon Knight, yes).

I just feel like they are slowly alienating the wider/casual audience by moving too quickly. My partner is a classic case of this- massive fan of the MCU up until Endgame, but now has to ask questions every time we watch a show or film because there are simply too many characters to follow for casual viewers.
 
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I'm here for Echo and her series. My major issue with Marvel content is when they treat "superhero" as a genre when all their best work has been when they make a film or series as a "superhero angle of a genre". I think they just need to make the stories of the series carry a little more emotional or story weight. Outside of WandaVision and maybe Hawkeye, I feel like they felt a little too light/not that important.
 
I think that if you don’t want to watch everything then you can still get enjoyment from just watching what you want, taking everything at face value and not looking to connect all the dots.

You can just be told within Doctor Strange that Wanda created a family and obtained the darkhold, you don’t have to see that play out if you don’t want to watch Wandavision.

If you want a new character introduced in a movie then wait for The Marvels to come out. Then if you enjoy Ms Marvel in that you can go back and watch her TV show.

We’re so used to consuming everything as soon as we get it but actually maybe it’s on us to pick and choose what we want from the MCU as it expands.
 
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